FeelTheRads
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And again that stupidity only a power-gamer could utter: "Mage is teh only wai! Lol!!1"
Just like in Arcanum, eh?
Just like in Arcanum, eh?
That'd be what you're getting from Planescape. All story, all style, no substance. No gameplay.
Thrasher said:Stupid review. Needs to be ignored.
heh heh hehErebus said:Sometimes, when you hear/read too many über-positive opinions about something, you become predisposed to disliking it : you'll pick every single flaw it has, make them greater than they truly are, invent some non-existent problems if need be and pretend that all the good stuff is either irrelevant or not so good after all. It's stupid but it happens.
I greatly appreciate it when you speak for me and everybody else on the Codex.Wyrmlord said:I don't think anyone here disputes the fact that MotB is much much better than Torment.
Assuming that you are being sarcastic:Wyrmlord said:I don't think anyone here disputes the fact that MotB is much much better than Torment.
It is more fresh and fascinating with its shadow planes and dreamscapes, and the cascading possibilities in the game are infinitely more than those of Torment. And it has an excellent use of skill checks and a good character creation system.
MotB indeed does slaughter Torment, because it is not just a better way of doing an old thing - it is a completely novel game that carves out its own niche.
Torment has no "story areas" that can be skipped
(aren't there like a grand total of three quests in Torment where you actually have any choices other than do quest/don't do quest?
Sodomy said:To pull from my personal experience- my first time through Torment, I got to him at level 8.
You got to be kiddingWyrmlorm said:MotB is better than Torment.
Simply killing a Greater Tann'arri gives you a boatload of XP that equates to several quests worth of XP.
To pull from my personal experience- my first time through Torment, I got to him at level 8.
The XP cap is higher for mages. Add to that the fact that, being my first playthrough, I didn't know right where Mebbeth was and thus was late to change classes, wasting a few levels, and it becomes very easy to figure out. Also, the fact that about 50% of PS:T's XP comes from dumbass click-through fetch quests that I wasn't in a real hurry to do didn't help things.Qwinn said:...is ludicrous. Unless you are -deliberately- evading getting XP like a dealer dodging narcs, this is virtually impossible. In fact, I think it may actually be technically impossible no matter how hard you try.
To give an idea here... a good while -before- you fight Trias, when doing the bartender's chain of quests to gain access to the prison:
Step 1 gives 65k xp
Step 2 gives 150k xp
Step 3 gives 43.75k xp
Step 4 gives 200k xp
Step 5 gives over 190k xp
Hell, just triggering a trap on the way to the prison gives you 87000 xp.
Hell, -freeing- Trias cannot possibly give you less than 300000 xp.
This doesn't count the huge amount of xp (some of which is to the protagonist -only-) you get dealing with Ravel.
None of this includes the -even larger- XP hits you get in Curst Gone. All of that massive xp was in Curst -before- you visit Fhjull.
And you're telling me you fought Trias at level 8? When the most XP you can have as level 8 is as a fighter, with 249k xp?
Sorry. Bullshit detector is off the freaking charts on this one. If by some bizarre deliberate design you did manage to avoid that much xp, then thel "you can't skip any story related PS:T content" whines become even more ludicrous. And it also means that you royally deserved to get your ass kicked.
Qwinn
The XP cap is higher for mages.