Fallout New Vegas: Weapons/Character Build Talk.

[Perkel]

Onholyservicebound

Ok number crunchers, is Gatling Laser+ the weapon with the best DPS? I was thinking Ester might be better, but the splash damage can kill you unlike the Gatling Laser.

What kills stuff fastest? Can't be anything from Guns as they lack the raw power Energy Weapons / Explosives have. Melee might, but I hate melee in New vegas.

Anything. There isn't anything in FNV that could live through FNV arsenal beyond first weapons.
Hell take high aglity and cowboy repeater few perks and proper ammo and you will be hunting deathclaws in no time.

Lack of high level encounters to test new hot stuff was problem in FNV

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

There's a perk for drawing your weapon faster.

What bug? (i have 9 and intended to get 10 with an implant, when i scrap up enough caps)

There is an animation bug in both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas engines that has to do with unholstering one handed guns. Basically, there is some number behind the scenes that specifies the speed at which the weapon is drawn, the higher the number, the faster it's drawn. In F3, each weapon had a draw speed that influenced this number and the character's agility also influenced it I believe. In F:NV, your agility definitely influences it and that Quick Draw Perk as well. The problem is that if that number gets too high, due to Bethesda's coding prowess, the weapon draw animation loop is actually often performed more than once. Which looks very retarded. So, if you intend to use one handed guns and "quick-drawing" them, stay away from the Quick Draw perk, and do not go higher than 9 agility. At 9 agility, this bug will still occasionally happen when drawing, but not too often, at 10 (and/or with the perk), it will happen often and be very annoying. At lower agility, it will almost never happen, but then your draw will become naturally slow, so I found 9 to be a good sweet-spot.

The shit you find when you mod Bethesda's shit...

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Gatling laser + is more DPS, but esther only need one extra enemy to match it, two to beat it.
Only really necessary to clear huge numbers of clumped up enemies out in the open though, (Deathclaw nests) otherwise Gatling+ has the range and accuracy along with that DPS.
Pretty obvious stuff, all of that dps is way higher than the challenge deathclaws bring on very hard, then again, playing the promontory recently with the gat I still felt the danger even with everything I had, the reloads you know?

PorkyThePaladin 10 works for me, although I believe I have an animation replacer, maybe that's contributing, still, I don't remember ever having a draw issue until I got the perk.
Also Agility didn't affect drawing/reloading speed in 3, SPECIAL in 3 didn't affect anything.

Quick Draw is still a decent perk, but best used for the explosive expert. Draw can be really shortened for something like the fat man. Just too bad it doesn't work for the archetype that everyone want to use it with.

 

[DragoFireheart]

all of that dps is way higher than the challenge deathclaws bring on very hard,

I'm confused about what this part of your post is trying to tell me.

 

[Gnidrologist]

There is an animation bug in both Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas engines that has to do with unholstering one handed guns. Basically, there is some number behind the scenes that specifies the speed at which the weapon is drawn, the higher the number, the faster it's drawn. In F3, each weapon had a draw speed that influenced this number and the character's agility also influenced it I believe. In F:NV, your agility definitely influences it and that Quick Draw Perk as well. The problem is that if that number gets too high, due to Bethesda's coding prowess, the weapon draw animation loop is actually often performed more than once. Which looks very retarded. So, if you intend to use one handed guns and "quick-drawing" them, stay away from the Quick Draw perk, and do not go higher than 9 agility. At 9 agility, this bug will still occasionally happen when drawing, but not too often, at 10 (and/or with the perk), it will happen often and be very annoying. At lower agility, it will almost never happen, but then your draw will become naturally slow, so I found 9 to be a good sweet-spot.

The shit you find when you mod Bethesda's shit...

Why would you holster your weapon in this game anyway? I only do that when it gets in a way of seeing things, like when riffling through shelves of scrap metals, wrenches and stuff. Also in cities, where there's no immediate danger lurking around the corner. You can still go around friendlies poking the barrel right into their faces without consequences.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

I'm confused about what this part of your post is trying to tell me.

Agreeing with Perkel mostly, there are few/no situations where that kind of high end damage is anything but overkill.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Agreeing with Perkel mostly, there are few/no situations where that kind of high end damage is anything but overkill.

I got to the bold part and then your post turned into some kinda of gibberish. Can you clarify what you mean?

 

[Perkel]

I got to the bold part and then your post turned into some kinda of gibberish. Can you clarify what you mean?

IT means that there are no enemies in FNV that have ability to withstand anything more than first basic weapons.
Though there is the world of pain mod which adds above and shit ton of M weapons which are straight up broken.

 

[DragoFireheart]

IT means that there are no enemies in FNV that have ability to withstand anything more than first basic weapons.

Well that's their problem not mine.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Goddammit DragoFireheart, I'm now replaying this. Your fault.

 

[DragoFireheart]

Goddammit DragoFireheart, I'm now replaying this. Your fault.

I get blamed for random shit from boss/co-worker/wife/mom, I can handle it.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Why would you holster your weapon in this game anyway? I only do that when it gets in a way of seeing things, like when riffling through shelves of scrap metals, wrenches and stuff. Also in cities, where there's no immediate danger lurking around the corner. You can still go around friendlies poking the barrel right into their faces without consequences.

Well, when I am playing the kind of build I described above, keeping the revolver holstered and then "quick-drawing" it is part of the build, it's what gives it coolness. If you are using a laser rifle or a minigun, doesn't matter as much.

 

[Jaz]

ok guise, I followed this guide to mod the shit out of new vegas and after a long day of downloading and installing stuff, the time has come to start it up. I'm using Project Nevada, which changes the influence of some if not all attributes/perks on the gameplay.
Now I'd like to play a stealthy dude, who is proficient in melee and either guns or energy weapons, I'm not sure yet. Basically sniping from afar and sneaking up on people with a meat cleaver when indoors.

can anyone give me some advice on what attributes to choose from and which perks to take? played DLC-less NV once without PN and lack the foresight as to what will become important later on. like, is high intelligence still important to get the most out of level ups or does the overhaul require a different strategy?

 

[Gnidrologist]

Is there any possibility to make Boon not shoot at any random legionary he sees? I removed the NCR armor and his beloved beret, but he still keeps going crazy, whenever they get in the range of vision.
I would gladly ditch any companions (Boon and the robot) anyway and go solo, but i NEED someone to carry all that loot. I'd even install a mod that removes encumbrance at all so i can tag everything along all game long.
ps. yes, i have already got the ''sign of peace'' or smth after killing Benny so there's no way back if i get vilified and i haven't even got to Cottonwool something place, where the meeting is supposed to be.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Dude, Boone WILL shoot any and every Legionary he sees. He says so himself when you recruit him. No way around that. Get Veronica instead.

 

[Perkel]

Is there any possibility to make Boon not shoot at any random legionary he sees? I removed the NCR armor and his beloved beret, but he still keeps going crazy, whenever they get in the range of vision.
I would gladly ditch any companions (Boon and the robot) anyway and go solo, but i NEED someone to carry all that loot. I'd even install a mod that removes encumbrance at all so i can tag everything along all game long.
ps. yes, i have already got the ''sign of peace'' or smth after killing Benny so there's no way back if i get vilified and i haven't even got to Cottonwool something place, where the meeting is supposed to be.

Did you skip that part when he told you precisely that he will shoot any legionare ? I mean his whole reason to go with your to hunt for legionares.
Oh and Legionares bought his wife and unborn baby that also probably has something to do with it.


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fuck you people now i want to instal FNV and hunt some legionares...

 

[Gnidrologist]

Oh, yeah, now that you reminded. I was on hiatus for few months and didn't take that shit seriously anyway. Too used to popamole, where what people say has no consequences anyway.
edit: btw, haven't found Rebecca yet, although everyone's talking about her as the first companion one usually gets.

 

[pippin]

What kills stuff fastest? .

AMR or that Gobi Sniper.

I had a way better experience with the Gobi rifle than the AMR. Even with the perk that reduces STR requirements it still felt clunky and not as effective as I'd like.
I wiped out the Cottonwood camp and Quarry Junction with Gobi and it was awesome.

Currently playing as a one man machete rape squad for the Legion. Fucking profligates.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Goddamn, this game is soooo ''gun-porny''. I just love all the different weapons that pop up as i explore and develop. By no means, it's not a great shooter game if you're hardcore realism-fag, but god i love all the textures, sounds and how every weapon handles so much diffrently than any other. There is almost no redundancy. Every gun has it's pros and cons both gameplay and aesthetics wise. I'm at lvl 17 now and it was a whilesince i visited gunrunners and oh boy do i have a problem to choose. I tested everything new there around that cave, where deathclavs always spawn and decided that to hell with the fucking inventory limitation and installed mod that gives you almost infinite capacity, so that i can choose a gun according to mood and situation. Not always the most powerful, but most practical or stylish to use in particular case.

Did it also because i'm really tired of lugging around all the scrap metals and shit that will be useful sometimes later, constantly quicktraveling to vendors to sell of the loot and storesome of the things that will be useful later in boxes. These kind of games should've learned from Gothic series. Don't remember anyone ever complaining about infinite inventory crap, even the most harsh critics.
Also set up the mod that makes vats at least relatively useful at mid ranges. It's pretty stupid to invest in all these skills and perks that supposed to make you ungodly sniper, when you can't hit a wall of a barn from 50 meters away with sniper rifle.

 

[Onholyservicebound]

Is there any possibility to make Boon not shoot at any random legionary he sees? I removed the NCR armor and his beloved beret, but he still keeps going crazy, whenever they get in the range of vision.
I would gladly ditch any companions (Boon and the robot) anyway and go solo, but i NEED someone to carry all that loot. I'd even install a mod that removes encumbrance at all so i can tag everything along all game long.
ps. yes, i have already got the ''sign of peace'' or smth after killing Benny so there's no way back if i get vilified and i haven't even got to Cottonwool something place, where the meeting is supposed to be.

Boon is shit, get Raul.

 

[Gnidrologist]

I haven't met him yet. Tbh, i wouldn't take any companions at all if not for needing the mules, so i may ditch them soon anyway. Although i'd probably keep the hovering bot for coolness if i could get his ''victory music'' turned off.
And what do you mean by he's ''shit''? That badass motherfucker usually kills everyone with his stitched together rifle before i've even seen the foe. He's shit because he's too good maybe. I like his attitude, though. Will have to ditch though because of his psycho killing instinct for roman dudes, because i've yet to visit their higher ups and by randomly killing spawning centurions he shits on the my reputation with them. Can't blame him, though. As much as i dislike The Man of NCR, psychotic sadists gets no sympathies from me no matter what their ''profound'' goal may be.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

If you're gonna hoard a lot, you're at least taking the related perks, yes?

 

[Onholyservicebound]

It's all about regular maintenance, especially if you took built to destroy, Raul keeps your weapons from breaking as easy, and is about equal to boone in the killing department, he's also a true neutral.
When I said he's shit I meant because of his perk and hostility.

 

[pippin]

Raul is probably the best companion in NV. Veronica's a close second but I think most people would prefer ED-E.
For all the story which was added to Cass, her perks post-companion mission seem to be quite lacking, although the booze one can be useful in dire situations.

 

[Gnidrologist]

If you're gonna hoard a lot, you're at least taking the related perks, yes?

As i said, i installed a near infinite inventory .esm today. I wont ever invest in perks like that just to keep the game annoy me less.

It's all about regular maintenance, especially if you took built to destroy, Raul keeps your weapons from breaking as easy, and is about equal to boone in the killing department, he's also a true neutral.
When I said he's shit I meant because of his perk and hostility.

His perk of spotting isn't shit at all imo, because in the bleak landscapes seeing your enemies glowing red helps a lot, when you want to snipe them from a far. His hostility to phony romans is a drawback, obviously, but i take that as a nod to role playing side. Like in Wizardry 8 most recruitables except fro an android refused to go to some places and if you forced them there, they performed worse.

As for maintaining weapons, i took repair as one of my main skills, because it was obvious that without it shit sucks. And it give one of the best perks, when you reach 70 or smth the ''jury something'', where you can repair things from various item classes. That is especially worth because of insane prices for armor repair that isn't possible with your own tools. It also means you can have a lot more cash for your 100% mint hardware from resellers.

Raul is probably the best companion in NV. Veronica's a close second but I think most people would prefer ED-E.
For all the story which was added to Cass, her perks post-companion mission seem to be quite lacking, although the booze one can be useful in dire situations.

None of them i have discovered yet. And i have been playing this game on and off for dozens of hours already. The game is huge. Have to give kudos for that.