Fallout New Turds - the final veredict.

[Wolfus]

Have you used the patches? They eliminated all the quest bugs for me.

Unfortunately, in time I played FNV there was only one update available and it did not solve my problems :/

You suggested that you only knew of them by reading the wiki.

I am not aware of this. Maybe my shitty english caused it. Anyway, I don't need to persuade you about my (true) experiences by providing proofs (I'd post them gladly as help, if needed, but not as some sort of self-defense), because I don't really care if you believe me or not.
If you rushed here to protect Andyman, it was not necessary - I wasn't attacking him and I am pretty sure he knows it

 

[Multidirectional]

http://www.newvegasnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=37372

I didn't see this mod around so I did it. When I played the vanilla game I started a character and choose stats based on in-game descriptions. I choose for example high perception and agility, thinking they will both increase my run speed and accuracy, but after I found out I was wrong. They didn't modify those things at all, also if written, and differently from Fallout and Fallout 2. I also discovered that Strength didn't alter *directly* melee/unarmed weapons damage, it just increased the skills, but this, again, is not how it worked and how it should work.

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Stats corrections:
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- Strength governs damage with all melee/unarmed weapons and throwing range/speed of all throwing weapons.
- Perception governs gun spread for guns/energy weapons and hit chance inside VATS for all weapons.
- Agility governs movement speed (run/walk speed) of the character and attack speed with all weapons.

All stats scores above 5 will exponentially increase those bonuses, stats scores lower than 5 will, in the same way, but reversed, exponentially decrease the same.

Cool, downloaded. Will try out some time.

 

[Xor]

I'm not sure what some people did to encounter all these bugs. I had exactly one quest bug out on me playing NV, and I fixed it by reloading an older save. It cost me about 10 minutes of play time.

 

[Wolfus]

I don't know either... Maybe it is some sort of anti-pirate curse.

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

O hai there Skyway. Did you actually play the game? Ever heard of a little something called the monorail? But yeah you're right. F:NV needs to be more like Gears of War. Needs more boxes to hide behind and QTE's

The combat sucks yes, but no more so than in Oblivion. The only possible way they could make it worse is if it was a cover shooter.

2/10

GTFO, you have no cred to speak. Ok there's a monorail, cool, I sure haven't seen any transportation in ten hours other than slow-ass walking. I get it, you don't know how it works around here, we are allowed to speak about shit games even without playing it for hundreds of hours.

So the combat is so good that if you do anything differently, it's decline? Doesn't suck more than Oblivion = not worth talking about, it's fine? Gears of War or Oblivion, the only possible options for combat styles. You aren't posting from a PS3, are you?

Bah, shut up you retard, you think using every codex meme you fucking newfag think is cool makes it an instant win argument?

 

[Zarniwoop]

O hai there Skyway. Did you actually play the game? Ever heard of a little something called the monorail? But yeah you're right. F:NV needs to be more like Gears of War. Needs more boxes to hide behind and QTE's

The combat sucks yes, but no more so than in Oblivion. The only possible way they could make it worse is if it was a cover shooter.

2/10

GTFO, you have no cred to speak. Ok there's a monorail, cool, I sure haven't seen any transportation in ten hours other than slow-ass walking. I get it, you don't know how it works around here, we are allowed to speak about shit games even without playing it for hundreds of hours.

So the combat is so good that if you do anything differently, it's decline? Doesn't suck more than Oblivion = not worth talking about, it's fine? Gears of War or Oblivion, the only possible options for combat styles. You aren't posting from a PS3, are you?

Bah, shut up you retard, you think using every codex meme you fucking newfag think is cool makes it an instant win argument?

My, my. you are edgy..

Try using the monorail. It takes you places. Not many, true, but your first post makes it seem like there is absolutely no such system whatsoever. And while you're doing that, read my entire post instead of nitpicking parts to rage about like a 15-year old. I said yes, the combat sucks. Its better than Oblivion (which isn't saying much, but I mentioned it because F:NV is based on the same type of the Gamebryo engine). I just said that the Gay of War way (which you suggested) would suck even more. You then went on about things that I never said or even implied. What in the ever-loving fuck has a console got to do with anything? Seriously dude, it looks like you're just trolling. If I say something wrong, fair enough, tell me why it's wrong. But let's keep our big boy pants on.

 

[anus_pounder]

What did you guys think of the story (and/or writing, not sure what to use) in Dead Money ? I rather enjoyed the ending slides in that DLC. I hear Honest Hearts is disappointing in the writing department ?

 

[IronicNeurotic]

What did you guys think of the story (and/or writing, not sure what to use) in Dead Money ? I rather enjoyed the ending slides in that DLC. I hear Honest Hearts is disappointing in the writing department ?

Dead Money and OWB are written by Avellone and Sawyer wrote HH.

What do you think happened?

 

[mondblut]

Slap Obshitian's logo on the box and all you fags swallow MCA's load even though it tastes just like Bethesda's. (skyway)

This. No personal grudges against Obsidian, but until you show me a NV screenshot with a top down view and an "end turn" button, I am 100% with collective Skyway on this one.

 

[Xor]

I can understand being apprehensive about the perspective; I would also prefer a top-down turn-based game over a first person shooter. But what does that have to do with Skyway's point, that some people only like it because it was released by Obsidian?

 

[DalekFlay]

I don't know either... Maybe it is some sort of anti-pirate curse.

So you played the pirate version without the patches that came out quickly post-release and now you're here bitching a year later about bugs? Way to go at playing a great game underwater and then complaining you can't breathe while playing.

I have like 200 hours invested in NV and have had maybe two quests bug out.

 

[mondblut]

I can understand being apprehensive about the perspective; I would also prefer a top-down turn-based game over a first person shooter. But what does that have to do with Skyway's point, that some people only like it because it was released by Obsidian?

The point is that is *does* taste just like Bethesda's, and a sprinkle of supposedly "better writing" doesn't mean shit for me. A piece of turd with some salt in it is still turd, and that's what a game that plays like Fallout3 is, a piece of turd, as far as RPG gameplay is concerned.

...then again, those same people salivated all over that Vampire FPS like it's a bestest arpeegee evar for years before Bethsoft went full retardo. They are pretty consistent, you have to give it to them. Who can blame Bethsoft for hopping along? They'd hail a match-3 game as an RPG savior were it to have its menu button labels typed by somebody connected to Black Isle, for fuck's sake. (and yes, I have no doubt those button labels would be a paragon of "good writing", whatever it is, within their genre)

 

[Xor]

And here I was thinking you might actually have a point. Oh well, my mistake.

 

[udm]

What did you guys think of the story (and/or writing, not sure what to use) in Dead Money ? I rather enjoyed the ending slides in that DLC. I hear Honest Hearts is disappointing in the writing department ?

Play Honest Hearts if you must know what happens to Joshua Graham and his merry band of tribals. Otherwise just skip HH.

Spoiler

Bloody game didn't give me the choice to shoot the White Legs leader in cold blood at the end

Dead Money is by bros, for bros. Bit drawn out in parts, but the companions are really very nicely done. And there's the casino's executive suites. Goddamn it I jumped at one point.

 

[Surf Solar]

Honest Hearts writing was too much loaded with religious stuff (yeah I know that this was quite the point) for me to properly enjoy. This especially ruined Joshua Graham for me, all he did was practically talking in some overzealous Mantras.

And yeah, Dead Money is the way to go. Best piece of game I played since Torment.

 

[Misterhamper]

I actually have more fun playing Fallout 3 than New Vegas. Ofcourse it is heavily modded with MMM, FWE, IronSights, Dynamic crosshair, Destruction, big questmods and lotsa texture replacers etc (still very stable game). Sure, the dialogue is sometimes pretty derp, the story doesn't make that much sense and there is zero C&C. But the landscape, exploration, is a lot more fun than in New Vegas. Exploring broken ruins > exploring barren deserts. The story draws you in more, even though it is pretty bland. There is also lots more 'dungeons' and loot and the firefights is a lot more fun and tactical and you actually feel like you are destroying part of the landscapes.
Maybe it's all because New Vegas haven't been modded enough, I am gonna give it another shot in half a year or so. Surely I can't be the only one here who thinks this?

 

[Drog Black Tooth]

Well, Bethesda knows how to make hiking simulators, so it's no wonder that Fallout 3 is better than NV in this department.

 

[Volrath]

I actually have more fun playing Fallout 3 than New Vegas. Ofcourse it is heavily modded with MMM, FWE, IronSights, Dynamic crosshair, Destruction, big questmods and lotsa texture replacers etc (still very stable game). Sure, the dialogue is sometimes pretty derp, the story doesn't make that much sense and there is zero C&C. But the landscape, exploration, is a lot more fun than in New Vegas. Exploring broken ruins > exploring barren deserts. The story draws you in more, even though it is pretty bland. There is also lots more 'dungeons' and loot and the firefights is a lot more fun and tactical and you actually feel like you are destroying part of the landscapes.
Maybe it's all because New Vegas haven't been modded enough, I am gonna give it another shot in half a year or so. Surely I can't be the only one here who thinks this?

/

 

[corvus]

I actually have more fun playing Fallout 3 than New Vegas. Ofcourse it is heavily modded with MMM, FWE, IronSights, Dynamic crosshair, Destruction, big questmods and lotsa texture replacers etc (still very stable game). Sure, the dialogue is sometimes pretty derp, the story doesn't make that much sense and there is zero C&C. But the landscape, exploration, is a lot more fun than in New Vegas. Exploring broken ruins > exploring barren deserts. The story draws you in more, even though it is pretty bland. There is also lots more 'dungeons' and loot and the firefights is a lot more fun and tactical and you actually feel like you are destroying part of the landscapes.
Maybe it's all because New Vegas haven't been modded enough, I am gonna give it another shot in half a year or so. Surely I can't be the only one here who thinks this?

 

[udm]

And yeah, Dead Money is the way to go. Best piece of game I played since Torment.

Spoiler

Only problem I had with it was the questionable ability of the ghosts to enter the casino. If the main entrance was locked, how did they manage to break in?

 

[Surf Solar]

And yeah, Dead Money is the way to go. Best piece of game I played since Torment.

Spoiler

Only problem I had with it was the questionable ability of the ghosts to enter the casino. If the main entrance was locked, how did they manage to break in?

Spoiler

I thought they were always in there, trapped in their suits. Or maybe they have some secret underground ways to go in and out the casino, like Dean mentions, that there are probably hidden tunnels with hundreds of these creatures. But yeah, you've a point.

 

[Misterhamper]

I actually have more fun playing Fallout 3 than New Vegas. Ofcourse it is heavily modded with MMM, FWE, IronSights, Dynamic crosshair, Destruction, big questmods and lotsa texture replacers etc (still very stable game). Sure, the dialogue is sometimes pretty derp, the story doesn't make that much sense and there is zero C&C. But the landscape, exploration, is a lot more fun than in New Vegas. Exploring broken ruins > exploring barren deserts. The story draws you in more, even though it is pretty bland. There is also lots more 'dungeons' and loot and the firefights is a lot more fun and tactical and you actually feel like you are destroying part of the landscapes.
Maybe it's all because New Vegas haven't been modded enough, I am gonna give it another shot in half a year or so. Surely I can't be the only one here who thinks this?

/

Just looking at it objectively, bro.

Sure, if it is unmodded Fallout 3 vs unmodded New Vegas, it is clear who the winner is. But mods have actually fixed most of the bad gameplay stuff in Fallout 3 imo. Only the dialogue and mainquest remain mediocre, but its only an Action RPG

 

[Grunker]

Who are all these random faggots with old/ancient join-dates and no posts springing forth on the Codex these days?

 

[dextermorgan]

Only the dialogue and mainquest remain mediocre, but its only an Action RPG

Calling those element mediocre is being incredibly generous. They were truly cringe-worthy.

 

[Drog Black Tooth]

Well, at least FO3 had John Henry Eden and his propaganda speeches. Amazing VA.