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Decline Visual Novel Recomendation Thread

merser

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Has anyone played this VN/dungeon crawler hybrid? It's remastered version of Japanese PS2 title from 2004 and it looks pretty interesting...

The game is interesting, but you just can't play it without a guide.
The game is confusing and some of the mechanics are weird, the puzzles are hard (or I'm just dumb), the VN part is good, but again, you can get confused (the wheel of emotions is almost like in a fucking oblivion), but the plot is good cultic story anyway.
The port should be played on a gamepad, the keyboard controls are not intuitive. Dungeon Crawl feels fresh and quite diverse compared to other JRPGs. In general - a well-deserved PS2 classic, you should try it.
 

musouking

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Well, I never played any visual novel myself. So I just copy some otaku rank list here. All rated by 2000+ users.
  1. Ever17 -the out of infinity-​

  2. WHITE ALBUM2 -closing chapter-​

  3. Sakura no Uta: Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau​

  4. Wonderful Everyday​

  5. CLANNAD​

  6. Remember11 -the age of infinity-​

  7. Muv-Luv Alternative​

  8. STEINS;GATE​

 

430am

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FUCK Ever17, whoever recommended it to me like 10+ years ago or so, if I could send a message to him, he's a bitch. It's one of those "but truuuuuuuust me dude it gets so good after 9999 hours! totally worth it!" pieces. Except it didn't. And all those hours were filled with the same scene of eating fucking sandwiches. Might legit be the worst one I've read. Surprised I even got that far back then, being a teenager really lets you slog through garbage because you have too much time on your hands.
 

merser

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Shitavune released Dohna Dohna and The Shell Part 1 on JAST, drm free.
DonaDona is just must play. It is lewd as fuck(and it is kinda bad, but it is a game about "bad things" and it not shown as something good, so whatever), but its so much fun.
And well, it was piratable before, you just need Locale Emu.
 

merser

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Well, I never played any visual novel myself. So I just copy some otaku rank list here. All rated by 2000+ users.
  1. Ever17 -the out of infinity-​

  2. WHITE ALBUM2 -closing chapter-​

  3. Sakura no Uta: Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau​

  4. Wonderful Everyday​

  5. CLANNAD​

  6. Remember11 -the age of infinity-​

  7. Muv-Luv Alternative​

  8. STEINS;GATE​

Do not believe these lists, remember that weeaboo/otaku are stupid degenerates who are ready to eat any shit.
There are about 3 good novels on this list, but I won’t say which ones, because I’m also a stupid degenerate.
(well okay, Clannad is good, but it is for a special mood)
 
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Endemic

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Shitavune released Dohna Dohna and The Shell Part 1 on JAST, drm free.
DonaDona is just must play. It is lewd as fuck(and it is kinda bad, but it is a game about "bad things" and it not shown as something good, so whatever), but its so much fun.
And well, it was piratable before, you just need Locale Emu.

Dohna is basically a modern remake of 大悪事 but in Tokyo. It's fun but the gameplay starts to become repetitive after a while.
 

merser

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Shitavune released Dohna Dohna and The Shell Part 1 on JAST, drm free.
DonaDona is just must play. It is lewd as fuck(and it is kinda bad, but it is a game about "bad things" and it not shown as something good, so whatever), but its so much fun.
And well, it was piratable before, you just need Locale Emu.

Dohna is basically a modern remake of 大悪事 but in Tokyo. It's fun but the gameplay starts to become repetitive after a while.
DonaDona is more stylish and I like the story more. Daiakuji is great too, espacially in terms of gameplay, but its not really my style.
Dona's repetitiveness is less of a concern as it is shorter and more story driven. From Dona, I had the experience as a second playthrough of Persona 5 Royale and it was wonderful, in some ways even better than Persona 5 itself, because it was faster, brighter and more consistent, also the plot and characters were better because they weren't so dumb.
(If you're a Persona 5 hater, you can go fuck yourself. 3 is shit, 4 is an improved version of 3, not shit, but not that good either. 1 is a strange game, but good, 2 (x2) is a masterpiece, 5 is just a great game.)
 

catfood

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Well, I never played any visual novel myself. So I just copy some otaku rank list here. All rated by 2000+ users.
  1. Ever17 -the out of infinity-​

  2. WHITE ALBUM2 -closing chapter-​

  3. Sakura no Uta: Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau​

  4. Wonderful Everyday​

  5. CLANNAD​

  6. Remember11 -the age of infinity-​

  7. Muv-Luv Alternative​

  8. STEINS;GATE​

I've only read White Album 2 and Muv-Luv Alternative from this list and I enjoyed both a lot. I've yet to read Steins;Gate but it has the potential to be good since it has many routes that you can unlock and it goes well with the time traveling story. I have not read Clannad but if it's anything like the anime then it's probably complete trash.
 

Elttharion

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Nukitashi improvement patch

For some reason I cant embed the tweet directly to this post.

Source
FS changed back to SS as in the original.
Honorifics added. Honorific and name order changed in the intro video.
Name order changed to JP.
Editing pass of whole script.
Twitch/Zoomer slang removed.
British slang removed.
Yiddish | AAVE removed.
Cringe removed when possible and not in the original script.
Some jokes changed to remove cringe and to be more accurate to the original JP script.
 

Fargus

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Well, I never played any visual novel myself. So I just copy some otaku rank list here. All rated by 2000+ users.
  1. Ever17 -the out of infinity-​

  2. WHITE ALBUM2 -closing chapter-​

  3. Sakura no Uta: Sakura no Mori no Ue o Mau​

  4. Wonderful Everyday​

  5. CLANNAD​

  6. Remember11 -the age of infinity-​

  7. Muv-Luv Alternative​

  8. STEINS;GATE​


Played Wonderful Everyday a bit. Writing or maybe its the translation was pure shizo and extremely annoying. A pseudo intellectual story about some highschool poser bitch and her annoying friends. I heard that the story supposedly gets really dark in later chapters but... i dont want to suffer through all the filler and stupid femoid shenanigans to get there. Heavily censored on steam too, but there are patches.

Clannad is one of the most overrated pos novels i've ever tried and i was really surprised by all overwhelmingly positive reviews after actually trying it myself, what a waste of time and money. I quit after a few hours because it was a torture. Pretty much like the "friendship" of Sunohara with retard protagonist. Its one of those novels that supposedly get good later on... if you survive all the garbage filler and annoying characters. There is probably some sob story or two later for estrogen weebs.

Steins Gate is actually really good if not one of the best in my book, full of annoying filler early on but you get used to most of the character quirks and they start to grow on you. And i really felt for the characters. A real rollercoaster of a VN with decent writing and twists. Even though its time travel bullshit.

Muv Luv seems interesting but i never got the time to try it.

In my experience if the setting of a VN is some highschool retardation you can easily dismiss it as garbage. Unfortunately its 90% of the time.
 
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Radiane

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I could imagine that VNs in general might be quite a bit more dependant on the state of the user, like age, gender, past experiences etc., than other genres, in order to determine whether they "click" with the player or not. Imagine someone who is in his early teens and is dreaming of some romantic companionship, or similar things, well, that kind of person would be the main audience of a game like Clannad (I think. Haven't played that one, just a guess based on reviews and videos I saw about the game). And there seems to be a really whole lot of those types of VNs floating around. In this regard, you have to take reviews of VNs with a fair bit of salt in general.

Well I haven't played a lot of them until now, but I have developed an interest in these kind of games/stories since I first played Virtue's Last Reward a couple of years ago. There was this constant praising of this game at all kinds of sites but I didn't take any of that seriously, but one day when the game was on sale and I had nothing better to do, I did actually buy and try it to see what all the fuss is about. Yes, all that praise definitely was not inappropriate. I can even say that VLR has become one of my favorite games ever... Be it the characters, their speeches (I love the original jap. voices, though I didn't understand a word, it really enhances the atmosphere as their different emotions are clearly brought to life so well), the music (!!), the ambience, simply everything fits so well together. The game also presents quite a bit of food for thought to the player outside of the context of the game itself. Well, after that game, I naturally had to play the predecessor, 999, and that was a masterpiece also of course. The third game, Zero Time Dilemma, was said to be relatively bad, well, I thought it was also excellent. Maybe not as great as the other two, but still great.

I have a feeling that there aren't that many VNs as great as the Zero Escape series, as these games already seem to be the pinnacle of mystery VNs.
 
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R@tmaster

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Dec 4, 2014
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Well, I understand that first 20-30 hours of the game could be appealing to certain people. It's cozy atmosphere - just hanging out with your friends, bickering with your waifu, using magical microwave to change boy into girl. But there literary no story progression during those 30hrs, and when it starts, you regret that you haven't enjoyed this first part.
It's pathetic even as coming to age drama. Since protagonist instantaneously completes two-phase identity transformation of every japanese male: overexcited autist -> depressed alcoholic.
 

Derringer

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Jan 28, 2020
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I wouldn't say most VNs are 'good games', they usually need gameplay elements that carry the scenario to make them endearing to a small extent, I couldn't think of too many Ren'Py games I actually care about beyond meme shit like Unteralterbach with halfway decent writing (the only thing I saw people mention was Princess Trainer/Akubar which was funny to me, Monster Girl Quest was done with OnScripter, it's just funny that the more 'interesting games' are porn shit since people can't be assed to do anything more interesting as a presentation usually than that usually unless they use RPGMaker or cobble up their own engine), they're usually better when they mix gameplay elements into them even if they're mediocre to an extent. Even stuff like Radical Dreamers I'd consider to be better even though the gameplay itself is just kind of repetitive cyoa stuff, it's just hard to get me to care about the product unless the game can actually make me interested in it.

Lux-Pain was alright when I tried it with the undub patch but the gameplay doesn't exactly 'exist' beyond touchspam added to it to portray your goal in the game, just adding something tangible to it helps.
 
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Fargus

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What my friend told me when he saw me "playing" a weeb VN on steam:

"What the fuck is this weird japanese shit?"
"Read a fucking book instead lol."
 

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