Moonspeak Random Non-Japanese Asian RPG News Thread

[InD_ImaginE]

https://steamcommunity.com/games/2088160/announcements/detail/3669922006628558616

Heluo is translating Traveller of Wuxia (that semi sequel to HTLS card game) to English

Probably a good sign that they FINALLY acknowledge that their games are popular in English speaking sphere

 

[musouking]

Uh, Heluo probably won't translate HTLS or Path of Wuxia until they win the case from their evil disguesting former publisher Soft-World. If they lose, these two games will be judged to Soft-World as collateral which only worth half of the compensation.
And whether they win or not, there is no more Tale of Wuxia sequel made by Heluo.

 

[Jinn]

Heluo is translating Traveller of Wuxia (that semi sequel to HTLS card game) to English

Too bad it's the shitty card game they're translating, so I can't even support it in good faith. The pain never stops with Heluo.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Heluo is translating Traveller of Wuxia (that semi sequel to HTLS card game) to English

Too bad it's the shitty card game they're translating, so I can't even support it in good faith. The pain never stops with Heluo.

The game dialogue is pretty short overall so that's probably why they are translating it. And still require like 7 months to get out. Probably will post my impression later. Translation is ToW tier, understandable but with awkward phrasing sometimes. Very likely edited MTL as they have the knife/blade issue that's common with MTL in regards to weapon. Descriptive text of card is actually good tho, it's mostly the dialogue that's kinda awkward.

 

[Jinn]

Jesus, so they didn't even hire a professional for their low-load translation job? They will never learn.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Uh, Heluo probably won't translate HTLS or Path of Wuxia until they win the case from their evil disguesting former publisher Soft-World. If they lose, these two games will be judged to Soft-World as collateral which only worth half of the compensation.
And whether they win or not, there is no more Tale of Wuxia sequel made by Heluo.

Not sure about Path of Wuxia. IIRC they established a Hong Kong company especially to do PoW to make sure it is under different bodies and thus not under Taiwan's Heluo asset. Not really sure how the law works in this case tho but I would assume they especially choose Hong Kong because unlikely Taiwan's court of law can forcefully apply it to Hong Kong legal entity.

But if the PC is still in Taiwan, it might as well get raided if they lose the appeal.

Hopefuly Gu Long game will be translated.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Jesus, so they didn't even hire a professional for their low-load translation job? They will never learn.

To be fair, Chinese - English TL for Wuxia fiction especially is probably rather expensive. That being said with a lot of group translating webnovel and webtoon from CN to EN I would assume it shouldn't all that hard to get a group going. They seems to especially lack a community maanager in English too.

A lot of big Chinese Indie games, including Wuxia related, that has initial strong sales in CN thus signalling good appeal usually starts to have English CM, Discord, etc to start engaging with English audience. Heluo seems very behind, evene Traveller of Wuxia TL kinda comes out of nowhere after they hype of the game died down

 

[Jinn]

I understand the difficulties involved in such a complex translation process. The point I'm making is that if they and other Chinese game companies don't start investing in real professional translations, they're never going to see solid results in western sales. Half-assing it constantly isn't going to win you a player base. But whatever. I'm starting to grow tired of it myself over all these years to the point that I'm starting to lose interest in Chinese gaming altogether. It's just a shame, is all.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Not sure about Path of Wuxia. IIRC they established a Hong Kong company especially to do PoW to make sure it is under different bodies and thus not under Taiwan's Heluo asset. Not really sure how the law works in this case tho but I would assume they especially choose Hong Kong because unlikely Taiwan's court of law can forcefully apply it to Hong Kong legal entity.

But if the PC is still in Taiwan, it might as well get raided if they lose the appeal.

Hopefuly Gu Long game will be translated.

Phoneix Games is a mainland China company with Hong Kong branch which has nothing to do with Heluo or Soft-World.
The question is the 1m USD compensation will destroy Heluo.

Huh, maybe I misread but didn't Heluo also has issue with Soft World? So it's 2 separate drama?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I understand the difficulties involved in such a complex translation process. The point I'm making is that if they and other Chinese game companies don't start investing in real professional translations, they're never going to see solid results in western sales. Half-assing it constantly isn't going to win you a player base. But whatever. I'm starting to grow tired of it myself over all these years to the point that I'm starting to lose interest in Chinese gaming altogether. It's just a shame, is all.

Some games like Sand Salazaar, Amazing Cultivation, Tale of Immortal has decent translation, but most of them are open world mechanic focused sim with not much dialogue. I guess the Indie/AA just doesn't have the budget. The games with relatively long narrative that actually get strong translation are AAA titles like Gujian or Xuan Yuan.

It is indeed unfortunate that the AA level, especially Heluo who make strong narrative in their games, seems to be behind in reaching EN audience.

 

[musouking]

Not sure about Path of Wuxia. IIRC they established a Hong Kong company especially to do PoW to make sure it is under different bodies and thus not under Taiwan's Heluo asset. Not really sure how the law works in this case tho but I would assume they especially choose Hong Kong because unlikely Taiwan's court of law can forcefully apply it to Hong Kong legal entity.

But if the PC is still in Taiwan, it might as well get raided if they lose the appeal.

Hopefuly Gu Long game will be translated.

Phoneix Games is a mainland China company with Hong Kong branch which has nothing to do with Heluo or Soft-World.
The question is the 1m USD compensation will destroy Heluo.

Huh, maybe I misread but didn't Heluo also has issue with Soft World? So it's 2 separate drama?

No, it is the case between Heluo and Soft-World. Nothing with Phoneix Games. Sorry for making it confusing.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Not sure about Path of Wuxia. IIRC they established a Hong Kong company especially to do PoW to make sure it is under different bodies and thus not under Taiwan's Heluo asset. Not really sure how the law works in this case tho but I would assume they especially choose Hong Kong because unlikely Taiwan's court of law can forcefully apply it to Hong Kong legal entity.

But if the PC is still in Taiwan, it might as well get raided if they lose the appeal.

Hopefuly Gu Long game will be translated.

Phoneix Games is a mainland China company with Hong Kong branch which has nothing to do with Heluo or Soft-World.
The question is the 1m USD compensation will destroy Heluo.

Huh, maybe I misread but didn't Heluo also has issue with Soft World? So it's 2 separate drama?

No, it is the case between Heluo and Soft-World. Nothing with Phoneix Games. Sorry for making it confusing.

I guess you misunderstood me as well

Heluo does make a branch in Hong Kong, someone posted the company listing in Discord

Pretty much just a shell company from my understanding. some "Path of Wuxia is totally made by different company in Hong Kong" legal bullshit from what I understand. But I am no lawyer so eh

 

[Jinn]

Some games like Sand Salazaar, Amazing Cultivation, Tale of Immortal has decent translation, but most of them are open world mechanic focused sim with not much dialogue.

Yeah, we've had a few decent ones that were a big step above the machine translation garbage, but still lacking in basic polish. I can enjoy these ones, but the barrier remains for those who buy something and expect a polished finished product. Banner of the Maid was probably the best attempt I've seen, actually. They did a pretty good job.

 

[musouking]

But I am no lawyer so eh

Neither do I.

Hopefuly Gu Long game will be translated.

Brofist. (When can i react with emoji?)

 

[InD_ImaginE]

(When can i react with emoji?)

Time to ask in Site Feedback

 

[musouking]

Banner of the Maid was probably the best attempt I've seen

You can contact with the devs of Banner of the Maid easily in any way.
Heluo only post offically in Weibo or Facebook with no comments or reactions to fans.

Heluo seems very behind

you will only be able to rate posts once you have been a member for 12 months or more

 

[notpl]

Jesus, so they didn't even hire a professional for their low-load translation job? They will never learn.

To be fair, Chinese - English TL for Wuxia fiction especially is probably rather expensive. That being said with a lot of group translating webnovel and webtoon from CN to EN I would assume it shouldn't all that hard to get a group going. They seems to especially lack a community maanager in English too.

A lot of big Chinese Indie games, including Wuxia related, that has initial strong sales in CN thus signalling good appeal usually starts to have English CM, Discord, etc to start engaging with English audience. Heluo seems very behind, evene Traveller of Wuxia TL kinda comes out of nowhere after they hype of the game died down

It's funny, because the "professional" translation work in the Wuxia genre is all absolutely terrible. The Legend of the Condor Heroes translation took four fucking years, and it doesn't even come close to the work of some of the better and more prolific webnovel/wuxia translators like Jeremy Bai, AKA Deathblade.

 

[musouking]

The remake of Chinese Paladin IV is being developed using Unreal Engine by original producer.
source: https://weibo.com/1658374617/NcxzXB3O9

 

[felipepepe]

Xuan-Yuan Sword: Mists Beyond the Mountains now has Steam Workshop support, and apparently one of the original DOMO devs uploaded a mod for 4K backgrounds? O.o

Would be amazing if someone modded the difficulty back to the original release. I have all the files from the original, would try to do it if I knew anything about programming.

EDIT: Lol, the update also came with tools to unpack the files, there's a .txt file with all translations and .lua files with all the combat numbers, very easy to edit. Will play with this during the weekend :3

 

[Abu Antar]

Sad. It does not show up when you search on Steam. Gives an error when you try to link its store page, but you can search for it in a search engine. "Notice: Vigil: The Longest Night is no longer available on the Steam store."

 

[kaisergeddon]

Damn, I'm glad I got a copy of it already, because that's a real Winnie the Pooh moment right there. Taiwanese developers just can't catch a break. Number 3 is particularly fucked if true.

 

[Endemic]

Sounds like it's Neon Doctrine's fault to me. Without knowing the exact nature of the "Formosa" portrayed in the DLC, there's no way for us to judge if it violated the regulations for games in China. Even so, it would just be blocked from sale there at most. ND were already aware of the product's themes in advance and didn't say anything about it ahead of time, then proceeded to take action that had nothing to do with the DLC like withholding revenue.

 

[musouking]

International Debut at Gamescom
The remake seems not optimistic while the original one was a pretty good Three Kingdoms Diablo 2 with more RPG content in 2001.
240P&RAP WARNING

 

[Joseph King]

Beyond Price of Qin, are there any other Chinese, Taiwanese, or South Korean games in the vein of Baldur's Gate?
It sounds like looking for Fallout clones there is a lost cause.

 

[kaisergeddon]

I've been looking for something like Fallout too, but I'm starting to think the Ministry of Culture would never accept a portrayal of society like that. It's Wuxia/cultivation all the way down I'm afraid.