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In Progress The true face of Japan: Let's read Shigurui (NSFW obviously)

Cowboy Moment

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I went ahead and read the whole of Shigurui. It's a good read, though at the rate this is going I'd suggest Cowboy Moment sticks to relevant chapters. It's pretty long but most of it is stuffed with plotlines or scenes that end up going nowhere (I won't go into examples for the sake of spoilers but there's many a chapter that details something which never comes up again, making me wonder at the design process behind it).

It's an adaptation of one story out of a collection of neo-samurai tales by one Norio Nanjo, and it expands on the source material a fair bit. After it gained a lot of popularity, the mangaka decided to drag it out, and incorporated a bunch of plot threads from other stories, which only loosely related to the main story. I was actually intent on skipping them, unless the readers demand that I do not.

You have to admit though, the ending is fucking amazing.
 

desocupado

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I sort of went ahead and read the whole thing. It's cool, but there's some politics/other stuff going in the background that ultimately lead nowhere. Felt unnecessary to me.

Anyway, cool stuff, 4 out of 5 trannycocks.
 

Radisshu

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So I read all of this I could find online, sadly, I didn't find the ending. Didn't search that hard though
 

Cowboy Moment

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Cause I forgot.

Anyway, we're entering Volume 3, so here's a bit of cover art:

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Ah, the simple pleasures of unrestrained violence.
 

Radisshu

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Seriously, DAMN. At one point I thought, sadly, that this manga would fall into some kind of shitty "OH YEAH IT'S A TOURNAMENT, WATCH THE FIGHTERS USE THEIR AWESOME TECHNIQUES" (it certainly builds up to it, with the introduction of the spear master guy and the frog, etc), and then the last chapters actually turn it into a beautiful work of literature.
 

Cowboy Moment

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I brought this up a lot in the Freesia LR, but Shigurui's ending is truly a magnificent example of human dignity taking a boot to the face.
 

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I was just passing through, and noticed this thread. Now I'm addicted. Thanks, and also (someone may have pointed it out) but the animated version of this is available on NetFlix as Shiguri: Death Frenzy, or something similar. I only watched the first 10 minutes to determine if it is the same thing: it appears to be.
 

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I read some more chapters from the link posted above, and what bothers me is that there aren't any real fights. 90% of the time it's one guy using a special technique that one-shots the other guy. It's also hard to believe that the special technique from the Kogan can actually be effective in combat.
 

Cowboy Moment

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I read some more chapters from the link posted above, and what bothers me is that there aren't any real fights. 90% of the time it's one guy using a special technique that one-shots the other guy. It's also hard to believe that the special technique from the Kogan can actually be effective in combat.

The "special techniques" are for the most part completely nonsensical. However, swordfights with katanas ending after a single blow is fairly realistic, as far as I know. Compare:



It's extremely risky to parry with a katana, and the destructive power of a successful attack is very high, so the first blow that meets its target usually ends the fight. In that sense, katanas are more similar to guns as far as duels are concerned, rather than typical Western arms and armor. These aren't knights in plate and mail, with shields and broadswords, hacking at each other till one of them drops from exhaustion or blood loss.
 

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That's why I thought a nice moment was when
Iwamoto Kogan fought the guy wielding the Spanish rapier
 

Haba

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I sort of went ahead and read the whole thing. It's cool, but there's some politics/other stuff going in the background that ultimately lead nowhere. Felt unnecessary to me.

The comic has a central theme that the subplots help to build up, I didn't find them unnecessary personally.

Re: swordfighting in this one. Like said, fights between unarmored opponents never lasted very long. The ending actually goes to great lengths at showing just how weak and fragile the whole "one unbeatable special technique" -school of sword-fighting is. It mocks this cliché of the genre rather nicely.
 

SerratedBiz

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I sort of went ahead and read the whole thing. It's cool, but there's some politics/other stuff going in the background that ultimately lead nowhere. Felt unnecessary to me.

The comic has a central theme that the subplots help to build up, I didn't find them unnecessary personally.

Not all subplots / characters / training bits introduced actually come up any time later, though, and those are unnecessary.
 

abnaxus

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I went ahead and read the whole thing. Best manga I read in a long time, aside for the couple of loose ends and mostly random nudity and violence every two pages.
 

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