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The Thaumaturge - supernatural RPG set in early 20th century Warsaw from Seven: The Days Long Gone devs

Cohesion

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Also I have no idea why anybody bothered to put this line in the game description.

culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw
Bruh.
:nocountryforshitposters:
Did you watch trailers? They were talking about social justice and wymmyn rights in Poland. But I still hope it is a good game.
https://youtu.be/NLgtLoNBBP4?t=58
Also "Russian scum" :)
https://youtu.be/2yqWfGVVzAI?t=33
 

Lord_Potato

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It'll probably be a few days before Steam reviews really get going, and you have to take them with a grain of salt anyways since a lot of them will be "wow! ghost pokemon game gud."

Cautiously optomistic though.

Also I have no idea why anybody bothered to put this line in the game description. Should we mention turn-based combat or other game mechanics? No, this is more important.

culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw

Bruh.
:nocountryforshitposters:
While it sounds very #currentyear, Warsaw of the early 20th century was indeed very multicultural place (only not necessarily in a way the wokies would prefer). It was the third or fourth largest city of the Russian Empire (after Moscow, Petersburg, and perhaps Kyiv), populated by the Polish majority, a large Jewish minority and a smaller Russian one (mostly forming the garrison and the administrative class). With Russians came all the other ethnic groups of the empire: Cossacks, Armenians, Tartars, etc. You could hear all those languages on the streets.
 

toro

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The game is almost completly ignored by the English speaking streamers. Only Potatoes and Ruskies are playing it.
 

Raghar

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It'll probably be a few days before Steam reviews really get going, and you have to take them with a grain of salt anyways since a lot of them will be "wow! ghost pokemon game gud."

Cautiously optomistic though.

Also I have no idea why anybody bothered to put this line in the game description. Should we mention turn-based combat or other game mechanics? No, this is more important.

culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw

Bruh.
:nocountryforshitposters:
They probably meant all these Russians.
 

Lord_Potato

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Did you watch trailers? They were talking about social justice and wymmyn rights in Poland. But I still hope it is a good game.
https://youtu.be/NLgtLoNBBP4?t=58
Also "Russian scum" :)
https://youtu.be/2yqWfGVVzAI?t=33
As for the women's rights, the suffragettes movement was strong enough in the Polish lands, that women received voting rights merely a few days after Poland regained independence.

Social justice also was an important issue, but again in a quite different meaning than it is used today: the serfdom of the peasants was abolished merely in the 1860s, rural areas were still dominated by large landowners, while the peasantry demanded a land reform. Cities were typical industrial revolution hellscapes with large neighborhoods of poverty, and the growing proletariat fighting for better working conditions and steadily forming political demands. The Socialist movement, while illegal, was on the rise. The revolution of 1905-1907 that erupted all around the Russian Empire, was especially intense in the lands of the Vistula Country (as Russian-occupied Poland was called since the fall of the January Uprising), because here the ideas of equality and national sovereignty converged to cause the regime an especially strong headache.

It was not about dangerhairs demanding the choice between 100 genders. It was about a shorter shift in a factory, higher job security and better wages. And, of course, national independence.

I really hope they'll manage to give this era justice.
 

Jermu

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okay lets test it

open game and see this right away

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:hmmm:
 

Tyranicon

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It's just covering your ass so some asshole won't try to cancel you because you've made a somewhat historically accurate game.

Looking good already.
 

toro

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
 

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It'll probably be a few days before Steam reviews really get going, and you have to take them with a grain of salt anyways since a lot of them will be "wow! ghost pokemon game gud."

Cautiously optomistic though.

Also I have no idea why anybody bothered to put this line in the game description. Should we mention turn-based combat or other game mechanics? No, this is more important.

culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw

Bruh.
:nocountryforshitposters:
I think they mean of all the other slavs/europeans ending up in Warsaw from the war.
 

notpl

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
I knew this was the case the second I saw batman vision in the trailers, but thank you for telling us anyway.
 

GloomFrost

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
Reminds me of an Inquisitor that came out recently. How good (or not good) is turn-based combat? Without solid combat its yet another glorified point n click adventure.
 

toro

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
I knew this was the case the second I saw batman vision in the trailers, but thank you for telling us anyway.
I don't want to crap on the game for no reason but this was my feeling after watching 20-30 minutes of the game. Kudos for figuring it out sooner.

Without scanning and combat it's just a point-and-click adventure game.
 

toro

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
Reminds me of an Inquisitor that came out recently. How good (or not good) is turn-based combat? Without solid combat its yet another glorified point n click adventure.
Combat is like Slay the Spire.
 

Tyranicon

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I watched 30 min of a walkthrough and this really does seem like more of a isometric point and click adventure with combat. That's not entirely bad, the writing and voicework is decent, even the animations are passable for a smaller dev. I actually really like the graphics when you're running around the village.

It's heavily story-focused and it's somewhat slow-paced, so that'll probably turn some people off. Probably still better than most RPGs slated to be released this year.
 

whydoibother

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I watched 30 min of a walkthrough and this really does seem like more of a isometric point and click adventure with combat. That's not entirely bad, the writing and voicework is decent, even the animations are passable for a smaller dev. I actually really like the graphics when you're running around the village.

It's heavily story-focused and it's somewhat slow-paced, so that'll probably turn some people off. Probably still better than most RPGs slated to be released this year.
That's really how the demo was too. Except not point&click, more like "find the hidden object". IIRC you had to click all the correct places, and there weren't optional ones or alternative resolutions. Hopefully not the case in the full game.
 

processdaemon

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
Reminds me of an Inquisitor that came out recently. How good (or not good) is turn-based combat? Without solid combat its yet another glorified point n click adventure.
So far (a few hours in) the combat's not bad as such but it is very, very easy and not particularly frequent. I'm on max difficulty and I've breezed through everything so far despite leveling up entirely to get access to clues without trying to optimise for combat at all. I'm only early in the game so it might pick up, but so far I think they would benefit from patching in a higher difficulty.
 

Zed Duke of Banville

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It'll probably be a few days before Steam reviews really get going, and you have to take them with a grain of salt anyways since a lot of them will be "wow! ghost pokemon game gud."

Cautiously optomistic though.

Also I have no idea why anybody bothered to put this line in the game description. Should we mention turn-based combat or other game mechanics? No, this is more important.

culturally diverse world of early 20th century Warsaw

Bruh.
:nocountryforshitposters:
While it sounds very #currentyear, Warsaw of the early 20th century was indeed very multicultural place (only not necessarily in a way the wokies would prefer). It was the third or fourth largest city of the Russian Empire (after Moscow, Petersburg, and perhaps Kyiv), populated by the Polish majority, a large Jewish minority and a smaller Russian one (mostly forming the garrison and the administrative class). With Russians came all the other ethnic groups of the empire: Cossacks, Armenians, Tartars, etc. You could hear all those languages on the streets.
Yes, Poland used to be quite a diverse country:

Second-Most-Spoken-Languages-in-Interwar-Poland.png
Poland-corner-of-three-empires.jpg
 

Kefa

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The core gameplay loop consists of running around like a headless chicken while pressing the scan button like a schizophrenic monkey.

This is retarded. Hard pass.
Thanks, that’s all I needed to know
 

just

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finished the intro village and refunded coz i reached 2h.
so, most of the gameplay is running around and scanning using witcher_sense™ while clicking on (impossible to miss) clues.
each clue has a little story and some cannot be seen if you dont have enough skill points in one of the four branches.
all fine and dandy, but instead of letting you read, think and let you do it yourself, game connects all the clues automatically to draw conclusions and also auto connect them to the right character.
you then follow the gps to said character and use that info in conversation to resolve whatever you're doing. if you by any chance missed something you can use your jedi mind control do the same.
you also fight some dudes and ghosts in between. combat could potentially be fun later on with all the skill modifiers.

it would be pretty fun detective like game if everything wasnt done for you. at least let me combine obvious shit myself so i can feel smart. i get it would be really hard to code and voiceact all the wrong choices you could make, but still man, wasted opportunity.
people are saying there's a lot of branching and c&c later so storyfags will probably love it.
the setting is really cool and i almost feel bad for refunding it. might buy it again at some later point if it turns out warsaw is more than the intro.
 

roguefrog

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This game wasn't on my radar. I haven't even played their previous game, Seven: Days long gone, but I actually already own that one on steam. Wonder if I should bump it up in the queue. At least ahead of the early Spiders trash.
 

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