Proof why Avellone is superior to any rpg dev

[sgc_meltdown]

Tim Cain cleans up pretty good

sorry Codex, but Pete looks very handsome on that pic

 

[tehRPness]

sorry Codex, but Pete looks very handsome on that pic:

What's with him anyway? Down's?

 

[catfood]

 

[Imbecile]

That photo makes me laugh. Its so ridiculously posed that it makes me thing that Avellone takes himself waaay too seriously

 

[Crooked Bee]

 

[Reptilian Shapeshifter]

This thread needs more Pete Hines.

Goddamn reptilian. Can't even keep his face from morphing during a photo op.

Need moar holograms.

 

[Nael]

This thread needs more Pete Hines.

"Bethesda's Incomprable Use of FaceGen Explained"

 

[Andyman Messiah]

That's exactly what I look like when I smile.

In before "Andyman Messiah confirmed as Pete Hines alt!"

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

"Why Avellone is better than other devs"

Dozen Avellone pics

 

[UndetectedButthurt]

He's such a real bro-man

 

[Jaesun]

"Why Avellone is better than other devs"

Dozen Avellone pics

Are you insinuating Exmit is perhaps not a fucking quality poster?

 

[DwarvenFood]

Hahahahaha oh my the codex is funny in weekends

 

[Crooked Bee]

 

[Sceptic]

Wait that's not Avellone.

... is it?

 

[Angrak]

After hearing him talk about torment a while it becomes clear why he's never done anything worth a damn after. It was a combination of pure luck and an awesome setting that made it a great game.

 

[Roguey]

I wouldn't say pure luck, he obviously had a long list of RPG-gripes and used Torment as a dump for all of them The problem being that he hasn't really come up with any more since then. Also he was fat.

Fatellone right there, front and center. Doctor said he was so unhealthy he would die and thus Musclleone came to be.

 

[Exmit]

Why 90% of people in that pic look like 'oh god i'm a fat rpg developer , please kill me now'

 

[Jaesun]

wow Fergus was almost... somewhat slim then. heh

 

[Melcar]

I bet I can take Avellone.

 

[J_C]

I wouldn't say pure luck, he obviously had a long list of RPG-gripes and used Torment as a dump for all of them The problem being that he hasn't really come up with any more since then.

I think he has a lot of good ideas. A dev like him doesn't forget how to make interesting games. The problem is, that in this day and age, you can't take risks in the industry with an AAA game, because the publisher won't support your game. If I'd told Avellone, that "here is X milion dollars, make the RPG of your dreams, don't mind how much it will sell", I bet we would get a game as good as PST. This is true for a lot of good developer by the way. Brian Fargo himself said in a recent interview, that in a big studio, you can't make any game you want, you have to make something that is profitable.

Let me add that while PST is the biggest success of MCA, let's not forget that his studio made one of the best RPGs in the last decade, Mask of the Betrayer. They shouldn't be ashamed of New Vegas either. But it is true that they (he) could not surpass PST.

 

[Johannes]

Let me add that while PST is the biggest success of MCA, let's not forget that his studio made one of the best RPGs in the last decade, Mask of the Betrayer. They shouldn't be ashamed of New Vegas either. But it is true that they (he) could not surpass PST.

Then again none of those have good enjoyable combat.

 

[Mastermind]

Let me add that while PST is the biggest success of MCA, let's not forget that his studio made one of the best RPGs in the last decade, Mask of the Betrayer. They shouldn't be ashamed of New Vegas either. But it is true that they (he) could not surpass PST.

I don't know (or care) about MOTB but Sawyer was in charge of New Vegas and some mexican did the bulk of the writing. Fagellone does not deserve credit for it.

 

[Angrak]

I wouldn't say pure luck, he obviously had a long list of RPG-gripes and used Torment as a dump for all of them The problem being that he hasn't really come up with any more since then.

I think he has a lot of good ideas. A dev like him doesn't forget how to make interesting games. The problem is, that in this day and age, you can't take risks in the industry with an AAA game, because the publisher won't support your game. If I'd told Avellone, that "here is X milion dollars, make the RPG of your dreams, don't mind how much it will sell", I bet we would get a game as good as PST. This is true for a lot of good developer by the way. Brian Fargo himself said in a recent interview, that in a big studio, you can't make any game you want, you have to make something that is profitable.

Let me add that while PST is the biggest success of MCA, let's not forget that his studio made one of the best RPGs in the last decade, Mask of the Betrayer. They shouldn't be ashamed of New Vegas either. But it is true that they (he) could not surpass PST.

But there's nothing done in torment that doesn't fit in with current crop of craptastic games. If anything torment is almost a template for them, romanceable characters, psychotherapy simulation, lots of cut scenes and story. His monologuing almost sounded like herp derp I'mma do like the opposite of a typical rpg herp derp. It worked out but seeing the simplistic reasons for many of the features and the fact they turn out well for reasons not intended makes me think it's just a fluke.

You could easily have nwn 2 and kotor just as awesome as torment (combat system is not great in nwn 2 but hardly worse than torment) but they pale in comparison, including motb which I didn't even think was much better than the original game.

For game mechanics I think you can argue what Brian Fargo said but I think there's a lot more to it than that. It's not really even about sales but simpler development paradigm and less dependence on programmers.

 

[Lockkaliber]

Let me add that while PST is the biggest success of MCA, let's not forget that his studio made one of the best RPGs in the last decade, Mask of the Betrayer. They shouldn't be ashamed of New Vegas either. But it is true that they (he) could not surpass PST.

I don't know (or care) about MOTB but Sawyer was in charge of New Vegas and some mexican did the bulk of the writing. Fagellone does not deserve credit for it.

bro, some of the ideas that sawyer had for Van Buren that are in NV, came from MCA's P&P sessions right?

 

[Begriffenfeldt]

He looks like Cleve there.