I'm just gatekeeping. There are already too many entitled retards who don't appreciate the time and effort required to make quality mods. That number is going to skyrocket when there isn't even any knowledge required to install them.The real issue is that these lists are pure fucking decline. Instead of modding requiring an IQ above room temperature and 3rd grade reading comprehension, now it's "push a button and watch the computer install everything for you". Good luck troubleshooting, creating compatibility patches, or updating individual mods when you never even had to learn the basics. And god help the mod makers who have to deal with entitled faggots complaining if the list tool fucks something up.
Wouldn't you rather Automate this process then do it manually?
Do you enjoy opening up 40 mod pages and scanning over everything trying to get shit working?
Even a power user who knows exactly what they are doing and read the manual.. I'd rather hit a button and go make a coffee or shit post on the codex.
It's pure fucking tedium.
I haven't tried installing SexLab for a couple of years, are LoversLab mods still a nightmare to get working? Hardcore gatekeeping autists can always fall back on that.
Throwing tantrums and deleting mods is anti-consumer."once you put your shit on our site, it's ours" seems like a bad deal and is anti-consumer
Mod makers are users when they're downloading mods. When they're publishing mods, they're not users, but publishers.Well the mod makers are users too.
With permission.They are using someone else's game as a base ffs.
Retarded analogy because published authors are under a contract and can't have that right in the first place. Modders can and should have that right though because its their files and their work and a glorified file sharing site doesn't have the right to use them in its trickle down economics scheme.As a published author you can't suddenly throw a hissyfit and say "I want all printed copies of my book to be confiscated and burned because someone made me butthurt!!!!!!"
The files are not theirs's. If its not theirs's, they shouldn't be deciding whether it stays up or not. Just like with photos you upload to social media or tweets you make. The grace period is a diversion to the fact that they're depriving the creator of file distribution rights.How can anyone entertain the idea that a stable, reliable data repository is a bad thing for users?
And it's not entrapment for a developer; you have a grace period to remove your shit for every thing you upload.
Retarded analogy because published authors are under a contract and can't have that right in the first place. Modders can and should have that right though because its their files and their work and a glorified file sharing site doesn't have the right to use them in its trickle down economics scheme.As a published author you can't suddenly throw a hissyfit and say "I want all printed copies of my book to be confiscated and burned because someone made me butthurt!!!!!!"
I would fully support this move by the Nexus - despite the Nexus being shit for a laundry list of reasons - regardless of legality (I think "muh contracts" is completely irrelevant in this), but let's just be clear that you're absolutely under a form of contract at the Nexus, too. You agreed to it when you joined the site and you're reminded of it when you upload. And that contract now includes not being able to simply remove your files when you get butthurt and want to take your toys away from others and go home to mommy and cry.Retarded analogy because published authors are under a contract and can't have that right in the first place.As a published author you can't suddenly throw a hissyfit and say "I want all printed copies of my book to be confiscated and burned because someone made me butthurt!!!!!!"
Incorrect. Once the authors have uploaded their work publicly, it becomes the heritage of mankind. The authors relinquish some of their rights by uploading publicly under the website's license.The files are not theirs's. If its not theirs's
All mods are released with permissions about what others can do with the files, including re-modification and re-upload. Because for whatever reason you want it taken down or not distributed, it should be your right to do so regardless of its reasonability. Its how rights work and how they should work. Would you apply the same logic to images you shared on instagarm or facebook? Or tweets? Would you be willing to give the sites distribution rights over them as well?Retarded analogy because published authors are under a contract and can't have that right in the first place. Modders can and should have that right though because its their files and their work and a glorified file sharing site doesn't have the right to use them in its trickle down economics scheme.As a published author you can't suddenly throw a hissyfit and say "I want all printed copies of my book to be confiscated and burned because someone made me butthurt!!!!!!"
Nigger they published a creative work of theirs.
Once it's out, it's out.
If you don't want it to be out, don't release it in the first place.
Modders deleting their files is like taking away others' toys out of spite just because you no longer want to play with them.
If you don't want your creative product to be out there for others to play, why did you release it in the first place?
Hopefully we'll do away with this bullshit too, eventually.All mods are released with permissions about what others can do with the files, including re-modification and re-upload.
A contract in violation of law is not valid, even if you agreed to whatever magical collectivist justifications they put in their T&S. And in the case of signing over distribution rights, I'd wager it is in violation of the IP laws of whichever country's laws NM is bound by.I would fully support this move by the Nexus - despite the Nexus being shit for a laundry list of reasons - regardless of legality (I think "muh contracts" is completely irrelevant in this), but let's just be clear that you're absolutely under a form of contract at the Nexus, too. You agreed to it when you joined the site and you're reminded of it when you upload. And that contract now includes not being able to simply remove your files when you get butthurt and want to take your toys away from others and go home to mommy and cry.Retarded analogy because published authors are under a contract and can't have that right in the first place.As a published author you can't suddenly throw a hissyfit and say "I want all printed copies of my book to be confiscated and burned because someone made me butthurt!!!!!!"
So what I'm saying here is that your point is shit.
The files are not theirs's. If its not theirs's, they shouldn't be deciding whether it stays up or not. Just like with photos you upload to social media or tweets you make. The grace period is a diversion to the fact that they're depriving the creator of file distribution rights.
People who believe in IP rights will just use normal file sharing sites, of which NM is nothing more than a glorified version of. No one will be retarded enough to sign over their work to the collectivist file gulag.Hopefully we'll do away with this bullshit too, eventually.All mods are released with permissions about what others can do with the files, including re-modification and re-upload.
We already do. You expressly sign away your rights when you upload to those sites, in a variety of ways. That might be shit for a host of different reasons, but that is completely beside the point; the point being that your examples are nonsense and your point is shit. Even if it wouldn't be that way and your examples weren't retarded, a family photo is materially different from something uploaded whose purpose is only to be used by others non-commercially in any variety of ways, which are inherently bound to a chain of copyrights and trademarks already to boot.Would you apply the same logic to images you shared on instagarm or facebook? Or tweets?
A contract in violation of law is not valid, but thankfully, you are fully within your rights to sign away copyright and distribution rights for publishing just fine. You're being extra-retarded if you're going to claim otherwise.A contract in violation of law is not valid, even if you agreed to whatever magical collectivist justifications they put in their T&S. And in the case of signing over distribution rights, I'd wager it is in violation of the IP laws of whichever country's laws NM is bound by.
Except hosting a file can be done by tons of other sites, and judging from NM's sluggishness, they could do it without looking like they're going to have a heart-attack loading a page. And I don't think anyone's coming to the site because of any quality the site possesses but rather to get the mods that are hosted there. No mods, they won't visit the site. Curation and promotion is secondary and mods often become popular and attract users to the site rather than a mod becoming popular because of the site.The files are not theirs's. If its not theirs's, they shouldn't be deciding whether it stays up or not. Just like with photos you upload to social media or tweets you make. The grace period is a diversion to the fact that they're depriving the creator of file distribution rights.
You need to keep in mind that content creators are A-OK with using the nexus platform to do all the heavy weight lifting (and financing) of file hosting, promotion and user support. The Nexus generates revenue from this by providing their users access to these mods. Considering that both sides are benefitting from working together, I don't think it's fair that only one side is allowed to make up the rules.
Steam does the same thing, albeit a tiny bit different. If someone has bought a game, they can never be revoked access to this item. Meanwhile, the game can still be removed or locked off from further purchases.
People who believe in IP rights will just use normal file sharing sites, of which NM is nothing more than a glorified version of. No one will be retarded enough to sign over their work to the collectivist file gulag.
Except hosting a file can be done by tons of other sites, and judging from NM's sluggishness, they could do it without looking like they're going to have a heart-attack loading a page. And I don't think anyone's coming to the site because of any quality the site possesses but rather to get the mods that are hosted there. No mods, they won't visit the site. Curation and promotion is secondary and mods often become popular and attract users to the site rather than a mod becoming popular because of the site.
You pay for games on steam. You don't pay for mods on NM. The legal rights and liabilities are vastly different.