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Master of Magic remake from Thea developers and Slitherine

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Only a hopeless idiot would have expected any other outcome.
 

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I liked Thea 1 and even 2, but I'm so happy this bombed. What did this add to the gaming milieu? Nothing of value.
 

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Why would anyone play this? It looks worse than games like Age of Wonders 3 and AoW3 already doesn't look particularly great. The maps look barren and lifeless, both on the campaign and tactical side. The gameplay is also an acquired taste, it functions much differently than the aforementioned AoW3 and is not "modern" by any means. I honestly don't know what they could've done to improve MoM, even just the graphics. Maybe keep the 2D, but make the sprites more crisp like Blizz did with SC1? That's what I would've done if Slitherine barged into my house demanding I remake MoM with a gun to my head. I'd also just rebalance some blatantly op shit like early wraiths. Maybe create some form of story campaign to go along with everything, or just do like Gladius and write unique quests for each leader you can turn off in the map settings before a game if you want to. Obviously fix the map generation because it can box you in quite badly if you are unlucky.
 
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They should have made the graphics more hi res. That's it. No 3d, no "reimagining."
 

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Honestly if they did like Age of Empires 2 Definitive it woudl have been way better.

That remaster shows how you should port an old 2d game to modern times.
 

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So this means a proper remake will never come I suppose....
With Axioms on one side and Dominions 5 on the other, and then the AoW sequels lately, is there anything stand out from MoM that you can't get somewhere else? Like yeah no straight RotP type clones but plenty of things that take the cool parts, especially magic, up a notch.
 
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Dominions 5 doesn't have direct unit control. It doesn't have the atmosphere of MoM, either.
 

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Dominions 5 doesn't have direct unit control. It doesn't have the atmosphere of MoM, either.
Sure but it has the crazy spells angle covered. I guess if you want every single part of MoM in a single package...
 
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Dominions 5 doesn't have direct unit control. It doesn't have the atmosphere of MoM, either.
Sure but it has the crazy spells angle covered. I guess if you want every single part of MoM in a single package...
Those two are the important aspects of MoM that haven't been replicated well together in this style of games in my opinion. It doesn't have to be exactly like MoM but it would be nice to have a new game that is a worthy successor with those elements.
 

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They also used a bunch of Thea art assets in this game. Mostly resource/skill icons I think.

Oh, really? Cheap whores are cheap. No, wait...

The MuHa guys are good people who did their best

No whores? Damn, I was so close. No, wait...

Technically it have giga memory leak that make it hard to play any longer time.
It looks like crap, ugly and with crappy UI and terrible styles. It lack options - like why I can only put 4 enemy wizards as opponents? Why no ability to choose type of landscape for map generation? . Its buggy, battle simulation is just out of the place. And did I mention that it looks like crap? because it looks like crap and UI is 10x worse than original.

Now I see it. They are good people anyway, they just had to choose another jobs. And they will in short time, I suppose.
 

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So, what's the latest on this? Has is graduated from trainwreck to ground zero at Hiroshima yet, or has it managed to redeem itself?
 

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It's the same game as MoM with worse graphics, there is nothing to redeem here. Maybe if they are serious about tweaking the gameplay it could turn out ok, but I doubt they would do that.
 
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Looks like the addon content is coming for it though lol! They've announced a new free update called "Through the Myrror" is coming adding a number of new things, and they've revealed the first of them which is a new myrran nature Wizard Tlachtga, the Goblin druid.
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1623070/view/3682291689335061315



Which of course had everyone thinking "Well there must be a goblin race coming" and sure enough now that's been announced too...
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1623070/view/3682292513183048363

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Master of Magic: Through the Myrror free update is out now

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Get ready to meet new Wizards, recruit powerful heroes, and face challenging foes as you wield magic like never before.

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Lacrymas

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That trailer looks and sounds like a parody. The narrator struggles to keep up his gruff voice lol. Also, this update is a nothing burger. At this point, I feel bad for the devs.
 

Axioms

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That trailer looks and sounds like a parody. The narrator struggles to keep up his gruff voice lol. Also, this update is a nothing burger. At this point, I feel bad for the devs.
Das Tactic has been playing a ton of this but that might just be nostalgia and he is waiting for AoW4 to pop.
 

Zboj Lamignat

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Don't know about parody, but making the trailer focus heavily on the bland, extremely cheap-looking, completely still 2d "art" is definitely a marketing brainfart, particularly when you consider the actual price being asked.
 

Lacrymas

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They'd have to pay me and let me castigate them for every blasphemous thing I see for me to play it.
 
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You keep talking about Chaos wizards and one spell makes me wonder if you are adaptable enough to have an actual discussion on a tactical or strategic game. I seem to recall a similar argument we have in the HBS Turd game thread where you fixated on one thing and went psycho over it instead of adapting your playstyle vs that one thing.

I'm pointing it out because Chaos Wizards have one of the strongest direct attack, which is part of the theme of chaos. In case you hadn't noticed, the Wizard I'm fighting in that screenshot is a Death Wizard. So that's 2/5 wizards. I also talked about Magician spam being enough to destroy heroes and Magicians are available to Wizards. Do you have an argument or are you just going to whine? I don't recall what argument you are talking about, you're probably hallucinating.
 

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