Mafia 2 'review'

[Lesifoere]

Why exactly are you linking him to Skyway "review" of the demo?

Lets you know everything you need to know about the core game, ie. shit.

At least it has nice voice-acting.

 

[kazgar]

 

[entertainer]

 

[racofer]

I will stand by MafIIA on this one for the higher scoring lasting appeal.

 

[Darth Slaughter]

You must expose yourself to shoot enemies

Preposterous!

I replayed Mafia 1 a few years ago. I remember it was pretty easy. Much easier for me than on my first playthrough when it came out.

Not that easy. Can't say for sure, because I'm using an realistic weapons mod, and it supposedly makes things a little harder.

The thing is that tommy stays with the arm down and if you press the attack button, he doesn't shoot, he only point the gun. only then you shoot. The enemies don't miss too much either.

the fact is the games give advantage for who shoot first. If you are shot, you become a sitting duck, rolling on the ground in pain. and sometimes, the enemies hit you first even if you are with him on the crosshair.

I woudn't call it easy, but you have to proceed extra careful.

By the way, this is not a complaint, but it's a sensitive difference from games nowadays.

 

[denizsi]

Why exactly are you linking him to Skyway "review" of the demo?

Lets you know everything you need to know about the core game, ie. shit.

At least it has nice voice-acting.

"When you're raped, might as well try to enjoy it"

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Why exactly are you linking him to Skyway "review" of the demo?

Lets you know everything you need to know about the core game, ie. shit.

At least it has nice voice-acting.

"When you're raped, might as well try to enjoy it"

Isn't that the Next Gen Anthem?

 

[Burning Bridges]

So I take it that Mafia II is shit and Illusion SW as it was is history?

I have always been a big fan of Illusion SW, since H&D, which was a groundbreaking game at the time. It's obvious they loved the great WWII cinema of the 60s/70s as much as I do (think of movies like Where Eagles Dare or The Heroes of Telemark etc). And they had much in common with Cinemaware.

Well, at least there will always be Mafia and HD2 to go back to. Which reminds me I still haven't played the HD2 expansion at all.

 

[Suchy]

I finished it. Extremely linear and popamole to the max. Also way too easy (played it on hard/simulation), but has its charm. The atmosphere is great, supported by good writing and some of the best voice acting I've seen in a game. Driving model is OK, way more realistic than the GTA crap. Still shit compared to Mafia 1.

 

[Quilty]

Torrented it.

Cutscene. Stop talking already and let me play. Stop. Talking. Skip cutscene.

Next cutscene. What the fuck, just let me play already, I don't care about your cliche-ridden story.

Cutscene. A world war 2 tutorial mission. WORLD. WAR. 2. Can you taste the bland already?

Cutscene.

Game finally starts. "Kazeen, look at dees, Amerika, de land of de free!" GTA4 flashback to da max.

Run for five minutes from A to B.

Cutscene.

Learn how to drive. Lame jokes. Learn how to shoot. Cutscene. Drive. Cutscene. Drive. Cutscene.

Man, I could be playing Victoria 2 right now.

Uninstall.

 

[Lesifoere]

Torrented it.

Cutscene. Stop talking already and let me play. Stop. Talking. Skip cutscene.

Next cutscene. What the fuck, just let me play already, I don't care about your cliche-ridden story.

Cutscene. A world war 2 tutorial mission. WORLD. WAR. 2. Can you taste the bland already?

Cutscene.

Game finally starts. "Kazeen, look at dees, Amerika, de land of de free!" GTA4 flashback to da max.

Run for five minutes from A to B.

Cutscene.

Learn how to drive.

Is where I gave up, uninstalled, and went to play DoW2. Good decision, that was. How's Victoria 2?

 

[Suchy]

The cutscenes are actually really well done. But they're just that: completely non-interactive cutscenes. And a fuckload of them.

What's Victoria 2?

 

[Quilty]

I'm very impressed by the level of polish in Victoria 2. If you check out the thread about it, you'll see people complaining about bugs in the later stages of the game, though to be honest I think it's impressive that there's only a handful of bugs (which seem easy to iron out). For a Paradox game, that's an incredible achievement, so I suggest you try it. It's also a great example of a game that is improved by streamlining (you can't change the occupation of your POPs, for example, instead they change overtime depending on your economic strategy).

DOW2 is another game I had much more fun with than I did with Mafia 2. Chaos Rising is especially good, though the vanillla is still quite satisfying on the hardest difficulty and actually requires some tactics. Will have to go back to it eventually.

 

[Lesifoere]

I'm so trying Victoria 2, I was just a bit put off by reports that Paradox tends to be a little... Obsidian-esque when it comes to polish/bug-squashing.

 

[Quilty]

True, Paradox is like that sometimes, but this time they really did their best. In fact, if you haven't, try Europa Universalis 3 with all the add-ons if you enjoy grand strategy. Broken at first, the game has been patched to near perfection. HoI2 as well, in my opinion.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

I'm very impressed by the level of polish in Victoria 2. If you check out the thread about it, you'll see people complaining about bugs in the later stages of the game, though to be honest I think it's impressive that there's only a handful of bugs (which seem easy to iron out). For a Paradox game, that's an incredible achievement, so I suggest you try it. It's also a great example of a game that is improved by streamlining (you can't change the occupation of your POPs, for example, instead they change overtime depending on your economic strategy).

DOW2 is another game I had much more fun with than I did with Mafia 2. Chaos Rising is especially good, though the vanillla is still quite satisfying on the hardest difficulty and actually requires some tactics. Will have to go back to it eventually.

Late game economy is all over the place and land warfare is totally fucked.

 

[bert]

Played Mafia II for a bit, thought it was pretty shit compared to the first one and the only thing that made me keep going were the Playboy collectibles

I also replayed Mafia 1 like a week before and the first thing I remembered about Mafia 1 was the holy shit boring as fuck driving missions that were the first three missions.

First mission: Escape pursuers, not so bad, usually ended up near the bar anyway.

Second mission: Drive a taxi and drive people from place to place which takes about 20 minutes, and then run away from your pursuers.

Third mission: Drive around collecting protection money which takes about 25 minutes this time and then drive off the map to the hotel which then leads into a shootout and then you have to drive after the guy fleeing with your money.

zzzzzzzz

 

[Ermm]

 

[Drakron]

Late game economy is all over the place and land warfare is totally fucked.

Hell I tried Portugal and it gone into the red the moment I started the game without doing anything ... maybe its realistic but fuck it, economy seems broken as I expect countries at the start have a self sustaining economy with only expansion and war bring up problems.

Also fertilizer factories.

 

[MetalCraze]

I'm so trying Victoria 2, I was just a bit put off by reports that Paradox tends to be a little... Obsidian-esque when it comes to polish/bug-squashing.

Give it some time. Don't play it just yet. Some pretty nasty balance holes. There's a simple rule that always works when it comes to Paradox games - play only after 3rd patch to enjoy.

 

[BLOBERT]

BRO BAD CALL BRO YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO GET ALL ANYGTRY ABOUT HOW THE GAME IS FOR FAGS THEN GET ANGRY THANT THEY NEEDED TO PATCH IT THEN YOU LIKE IT 5 YEARS LATER GET WITH THE PROGRAM BRO

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

People started poking around in the guts of the game, and found a shit load of script leftovers from before they hacked out most of the features.


Side missions, C&C, melee weapons, etc. Somebody said as many as 130 odd missions from the various types just got tossed.
This is what happens when development gets retarded halfway through.



00_50_00_0046:Buy newspaper
00_50_00_0047:Game Automat
00_50_00_0048:You learned to open safes.
00_50_00_0103:You killed innocents. Your reputation decreased!
00_50_00_0104:AB to buy.

00_50_00_0227: Pick up stool.
00_50_00_0228: Pick up object.
00_50_00_0235: Pay off ride.
00_50_00_0237:Cough
00_50_00_0239: Place bomb
01_50_00_0292:Search man
00_50_00_0260:Hide under bed.
00_50_00_0261:Hide in cupboard.
00_50_00_0262:Hide behind hinge.
00_50_00_0263:Hide in shower.
00_50_00_0291:Enter the Taxi.
00_50_00_0296:Use Taxi.
00_50_00_0297:Stop here.
00_50_00_0298:Step on the gas!!
00_50_00_0299:Skip ride
00_50_00_0300:Wait here.
00_50_00_0310:Go on toilet.
00_50_00_0311:Leave the Gym.
00_50_00_0327:Buy House.
00_50_00_0334:Open/close roof

00_52_00_0053:Entering Friend Location.
00_52_00_0054:Exiting Friend Location.
00_52_00_0056:Exiting mission location. Get back in 5 seconds.
00_52_00_0057:Exiting mission location. Get back in 4 seconds.
00_52_00_0058:Exiting mission location. Get back in 3 seconds.
00_52_00_0059:Exiting mission location. Get back in 2 seconds.
00_52_00_0060:Exiting mission location. Get back in 1 seconds.

00_51_01_0002:Run the hunter.
00_51_01_0011: Derek has a job for you.
00_51_01_0012ike has a job for you.
00_51_01_0013:Charlie has a job for you.
00_51_01_0014:Eddie has a job for you.
00_51_01_0015:Vendetta - Level 1
00_51_01_0016:Enemy
00_51_01_0017:Street race - Level 1
00_51_01_0018: Pad Madness
00_51_01_0019:Immediate mission available.
00_51_01_0020:Immediate mission finished.
00_51_01_0021:Immediate mission rejected.
00_51_01_0022:GOING ON
00_51_01_0023:COMPLETED
00_51_01_0024:FAILED
00_51_01_0025:Hunter - Level 1
00_51_01_0026:Immediate mission failed.
00_51_01_0027:Runner - level 1
00_51_01_0028:Shop destroy - Level 1
00_51_01_0029:Street fight - level 1
00_51_01_0030:Assassination - Level 1
00_51_01_0031:Bodyguard - level 1
00_51_01_0032: Destroy a shop.
00_51_01_0033:Rob a shop.
00_51_01_0034:Kill a shop employee.

00_71_00_0021:Weapon Buy
00_71_00_0022:Cloth Buy
00_71_00_0023:Equipment Buy
00_71_00_0024:Ground Buy
00_71_00_0025:Car Buy
00_71_00_0026:Appliance Buy
00_71_00_0027:Food Buy

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Hell, the Prologue was originally much larger, instead of a five minute diversion;


00_70_00_0100issing In Action
00_70_00_0101:Crash Course In Sicilian
00_70_00_0102:Hide And Seek
00_70_00_0103an Of Honor
00_70_00_0104:Call Of Duty
00_70_00_0105:Back Up/Call Of Duty v2 (alternative where they all leave together)
00_70_00_0106:Death Squad
00_70_00_0107eople Power
00_70_00_0108:The Old Country

 

[Exmit]

they removed all of this but the 'playmates' are in

 

[Drakron]

they removed all of this but the 'playmates' are in

I seen reports that one of them does not spawn correctly that I can confirm as it failed to spawn until I quit the game entirely and started the chapter from the start.

Also

00_50_00_0260:Hide under bed.
00_50_00_0261:Hide in cupboard.
00_50_00_0262:Hide behind hinge.
00_50_00_0263:Hide in shower.

Are in use in Mission 11 (I fucking hated that mission).

Not really surprised about the cuts, they have a subway system that cannot be used and Taxis give the impression you could use them (but cannot).

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

Not really surprised about the cuts, they have a subway system that cannot be used and Taxis give the impression you could use them (but cannot).

Metro travel was a feature at one point, but...yeah, you can figure out the rest. You also used to be able to stuff bodies in your trunk, and if you got pulled over had to play it cool or the cop would start poking around the car.