Wasteland inXile's Wasteland 1 Re-Release

[Charles-cgr]

I'm on the fence for the paragraphs. Reading through the phoneys after finishing the game sounds fun. Sadly I never finished it so looking forward to the re-release!

My avatar was not ugly dammit!

 

[Stabwound]

Unlike many mechanics from older games that don't exist anymore- hand mapping, note taking, text parsers in adventure games, I find it hard to picture anyone preferring having to pick up and flip through a physical book every time they enter a new area. Let alone today where any version of the game you can get comes with a .pdf instead of a physical book, and there is zero redeeming value to it.

The red herrings and misleading "clues" that get you killed if you try to cheat are pretty funny and I suppose are going to be lost in the re-release, though. That's about the only upside to the paragraph book in the original.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

Personally, I loved the fact that in older games physical items (well, manuals for the most part, but sometimes also a maps or other trinkets) were often an inherent part of the game experience. Of course as you said, these things need to be actually physical to make any sense, having to switch between a pdf file and the game is distracting and annoying.

 

[Bubbles]

Unlike many mechanics from older games that don't exist anymore- hand mapping, note taking, text parsers in adventure games, I find it hard to picture anyone preferring having to pick up and flip through a physical book every time they enter a new area.

I did that while playing The Witcher, but only because the load times were 5-6 minutes long on my rig. Still, picking up a book was better than just wasting my time staring at a loading screen, and most games have those in some capacity.

I'm sure there'd be a way to make loading-screen related reading sessions work out.

 

[4too]

Bunnyhopshow Revisited



Witnessed all 3 Let's Try To Play: Wasteland and the no time to lose *maybe* is

watch the ‪Let's Discuss: Wasteland‬ 15 minute Youtube @

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4SDeJtycYA

The smart, principled leasure-nauts bring up the concept of context.

The time and space in which the game was designed and originally played.

What was expected to be "inside" the game, manuals and paragraph books.

That's not this day's norm.

And for this thread,

in this 21st Century,

what player's aides would be considered intuitive, or "in game"?

Is the modern idea of game play immersion … THEATRE! ?

HOW dare YOU puncture my fourth wall, and deflate my illusion!

Dramatic-us interrupt-us? :D




@ Bubbles

Your loading screen reading access, perhaps when to include detailed journals and auto maps,

would be an effective "pause for the clause".

Align play mechanics and back story and potty training,

with the lust for "in the moment" scene chewing and or heavy breathing.



4too

 

[Infinitron]

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/inxile/wasteland-2/posts/633697

Wasteland 1

We noted back in Update 33 that Wasteland 1 would be getting a standalone release.

Where is it!

First, we’re ensuring it runs on modern machines, higher resolutions, faster processors, and all that jazz. We’re also giving it some polish for rerelease including a Mark Morgan music track, integration of the original paragraph texts into the game, and optional paragraph voice over & uprezzed portraits (both of which may be toggled on and off). The portrait uprezzes are a limited endeavor and we'd like to open up the ability to change the portraits in WL1 to the community if possible. We’ve also added support for multiple save games – now you don’t have to wipe the game clean to start over.

Wasteland 1 will be made available for free to all backers (including late backers as well as people getting it through the rewards associated with backing Torment: Tides of Numenera or Project Eternity), and sold as a separate title on GOG and Steam.

The optional settings menu

Uprez comparison shot

Wasteland 1 paragraph text integration

 

[Stabwound]

Voiceovers? What? I'm surprised they're going through the trouble to have someone voice all of the paragraph text. The new portraits aren't awful, but they're clearly just blown up and drawn over. Thankfully they're optional.

Nothing much to be said about the in-game paragraph text other than it looks a little ham-fisted, but still better than the original.

I wonder when this is coming out? Hopefully soon, but they didn't mention a date at all.

 

[Infinitron]

I'm amused that they went to all that trouble but are still using a ASCII DOS-style settings menu.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Looks like DOSBox to me, fugly scaler included.

Looks like shit, kill it with fire.

 

[MicoSelva]

The uprezed portrait looks ok, but I prefer the original. It has a certain rough quality to it.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Hopefully you can turn down that crappy scaler? And portraits look like they've been painted over by Fargo's kids.

Ah well, whatever, it's not like there's any reason for me to play this version.

 

[Infinitron]

Too bad you guys aren't text whores as much as you are graphics whores

 

[FeelTheRads]

You mean to say:

Too bad you guys you text whores as much as to graphics you?

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

The basic problem is that the uprezed portraits aren't pixel art and lack quality and style for normal art. Also, what the fuck is with that screen? Fucking filters :/ .

 

[Excidium]

Jesus Christ that looks awful.

Do they really believe that horrible filter improves graphics?

 

[Stabwound]

Hopefully it's just bundled with a modified version of dosbox and the filters can be disabled. But yeah, the text boxes are a little clunky, but I guess it fits in with the rest of the game's UI.

 

[Infinitron]

Jesus Christ that looks awful.

Do they really believe that horrible filter improves graphics?

At least it's not Depth of Field.

Hopefully it's just bundled with a modified version of dosbox and the filters can be disabled. But yeah, the text boxes are a little clunky, but I guess it fits in with the rest of the game's UI.

I'm not sure why people assume DOSBox is involved here. They've already changed the game's internals, you think they can't make it a native Windows EXE too?

 

[General Maxson]

Sorry but it looks like futile effort. Original portraits had some charm. This looks like a cutout from a mobile phone game. WHY??? Many better and more important things to improve...

 

[Lady_Error]

Sorry but it looks like futile effort. Original portraits had some charm. This looks like a cutout from a mobile phone game. WHY??? Many better and more important things to improve...

I agree. It might be worthwhile to improve the tiles instead.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Sorry but it looks like futile effort. Original portraits had some charm. This looks like a cutout from a mobile phone game. WHY??? Many better and more important things to improve...

The only way to improve it would be to hire a pixel artist or a comic book artist capable of doing 80s-style comics to re-make the portraits. This is just so pathetic. Low detail and looks lazy.

I agree. It might be worthwhile to improve the tiles instead.

Exactly. And make a high-res interface instead of the shitty filter.

 

[Brother None]

We did not spend a lot of time or funding on tweaking Wasteland 1, nor do I think would people like it distracting from Wasteland 2 too much. The portrait tweaks and voice-overs are extras and optional so if you don't like em, turn em off (or replace em). After all, select a you can setting you with to toggle, if you so prefer!

More options is just better, including the option to switch back to originals, but it'd also be cool if we can let you import Wasteland 2 portraits or create your own. Options!

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

We did not spend a lot of time or funding on tweaking Wasteland 1, nor do I think would people like it distracting from Wasteland 2 too much. The portrait tweaks and voice-overs are extras and optional so if you don't like em, turn em off (or replace em). After all, select a you can setting you with to toggle, if you so prefer!

More options is just better, including the option to switch back to originals, but it'd also be cool if we can let you import Wasteland 2 portraits or create your own. Options!

Will it have externalised data in text or xml files?

Also, why not make a separate Wasteland re-release kickstarter?

 

[FeelTheRads]

I'm not sure why people assume DOSBox is involved here.

Uhm, because it has a crappy filter and the DOS options menu? Or do you think they programed the filter themselves and put that menu for the old-school look?
Yeah, I'm sure they can make a Windows exe, but why would they bother to?

 

[Roderick]

seems very good. but i prefer the old pixelated style portraits.
when is it coming out?? want it NAO

 

[Infinitron]

Yeah, I'm sure they can make a Windows exe, but why would they bother to?

They've hacked some ancient C code thoroughly enough to inject hi-res graphics and long texts into it. Making it a native EXE is probably trivial in comparison.

Or do you think they programmed the filter themselves

Yes?