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Elite: Dangerous
- Thread starter Raapys
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bonescraper
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Looks like we can store a small ship inside the Anaconda now? (and by we i mean the onepercenters T_T)
bonescraper
Guest
Read. The. Ship. Description.
Also, my Cobra now has 3 decal slots. Pretty cool, but i guess those, just like paint jobs, will be sold separately?
What an original name.
Fuel scooping isn't as useful as i thought it could be. It only refules the jump drive. After 5 minutes in supercruise i still need to find a space station.
Anyway, beta 3 is the smoothest and most stable release so far. So if anyone's on the fence and would like to jump in early, this is a good time to do that. The game releases this year anyway, so there's what? Max 2 months till release? And just like SuicideBunny said, it's a good time to familiarize yourself with the game.
Also, my Cobra now has 3 decal slots. Pretty cool, but i guess those, just like paint jobs, will be sold separately?
What an original name.
Fuel scooping isn't as useful as i thought it could be. It only refules the jump drive. After 5 minutes in supercruise i still need to find a space station.
Anyway, beta 3 is the smoothest and most stable release so far. So if anyone's on the fence and would like to jump in early, this is a good time to do that. The game releases this year anyway, so there's what? Max 2 months till release? And just like SuicideBunny said, it's a good time to familiarize yourself with the game.
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Azazel
Arbiter
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How does the Imperial Clipper have more hull mass than a fucking Anaconda? 
Missions are hugely bugged right now.
Don't accidentally turn off silent running while parked because turning it back on again doesn't work. I idled on the station for a while, launched to find this, and exploded shortly thereafter:
Missions are hugely bugged right now.
Don't accidentally turn off silent running while parked because turning it back on again doesn't work. I idled on the station for a while, launched to find this, and exploded shortly thereafter:
bonescraper
Guest
Can anyone tell me what the fuck is up with fuel consumption? When i fly moderately fast in supercruise my fuel buns out crazy fast. But every time i come close to a station to refuel, it automagically replenishes itself. I'm nearly out of fuel, and then i'm at max fuel again. Is this a bug or what?
bonescraper
Guest
So it turns out mining is rather tedious -- who'd have thought? 
There's some DISCUSS!!ion going on at the official forums about this. The main complaint is that the refinery requires a lot of micromanagement; the cr/min are way too low because of shitty yields and there's no real skill involved in pointing a flashlight at a static asteroid. The refinery is also kind of shitty at the moment. Every time you've collected enough rocks to process a unit of ore, you have to manaually decide whether to keep/discard it (no autoprocess at the moment). And if you have a partial ore unit, you can't queue up rocks with different ores in them. It's fixable of course and that's what betas are for.
For the refinery, the simple way would be to make rocks take up 4-5x as much space as the ore and going directly into your cargo bay. That way you could scoop up a bunch of rocks and process everything in one go. It'd make it a bit harder to mine in ships with tiny cargo capability, but I don't really see a problem with that. If you're going mining, you're probably carrying a hauler anyway. For further decreased tedium, it could be nice to have a utility mount drone for gathering rocks as they break free, or at the very least reducing the speed they move at so you can mine bigger batches at once.
For the credits/hour issues and lack of actual skill, we need better scanners. Ideally a way to scan asteroids and have "hot spots" highlighted with vastly increased ore yields. Instead of just pointing blindly at one asteroid, we'd have to maneuver around and find the good spots. Frontier has confirmed we're getting mineral scanners Soon™. I just hope the mineral yield won't be identical no matter where you point your laz0r.
On a more positive note, I love the interdiction minigame. I nearly got killed in interdiction once because I got interdicted close to a star and I was overheating while desperately trying to escape the interdiction tether. As minigames go, it's gud. You're trying to maneuver towards a moving "escape" vector while the other guy is trying to move towards a moving "approach" vector. The better you are at aiming towards yours, the more the other guys will move around. Whoever reaches a treshold of pointing towards their moving vector first "wins". If you try to escape an interdiction (you can submit to the interdiction by throttling down) and fail, you take a little damage. If you escape or submit, you take none. The interdiction takes just the right amount of time to get exciting without being a chore. And you're actually flying around in supercruise during the interdiction (like when I nearly burned ot a crisp). I had an interdiction escape that failed and other ships joined in shortly after our fight started because we were zigzagging around near a crowded space port.
There's some DISCUSS!!ion going on at the official forums about this. The main complaint is that the refinery requires a lot of micromanagement; the cr/min are way too low because of shitty yields and there's no real skill involved in pointing a flashlight at a static asteroid. The refinery is also kind of shitty at the moment. Every time you've collected enough rocks to process a unit of ore, you have to manaually decide whether to keep/discard it (no autoprocess at the moment). And if you have a partial ore unit, you can't queue up rocks with different ores in them. It's fixable of course and that's what betas are for.
For the refinery, the simple way would be to make rocks take up 4-5x as much space as the ore and going directly into your cargo bay. That way you could scoop up a bunch of rocks and process everything in one go. It'd make it a bit harder to mine in ships with tiny cargo capability, but I don't really see a problem with that. If you're going mining, you're probably carrying a hauler anyway. For further decreased tedium, it could be nice to have a utility mount drone for gathering rocks as they break free, or at the very least reducing the speed they move at so you can mine bigger batches at once.
For the credits/hour issues and lack of actual skill, we need better scanners. Ideally a way to scan asteroids and have "hot spots" highlighted with vastly increased ore yields. Instead of just pointing blindly at one asteroid, we'd have to maneuver around and find the good spots. Frontier has confirmed we're getting mineral scanners Soon™. I just hope the mineral yield won't be identical no matter where you point your laz0r.
On a more positive note, I love the interdiction minigame. I nearly got killed in interdiction once because I got interdicted close to a star and I was overheating while desperately trying to escape the interdiction tether. As minigames go, it's gud. You're trying to maneuver towards a moving "escape" vector while the other guy is trying to move towards a moving "approach" vector. The better you are at aiming towards yours, the more the other guys will move around. Whoever reaches a treshold of pointing towards their moving vector first "wins". If you try to escape an interdiction (you can submit to the interdiction by throttling down) and fail, you take a little damage. If you escape or submit, you take none. The interdiction takes just the right amount of time to get exciting without being a chore. And you're actually flying around in supercruise during the interdiction (like when I nearly burned ot a crisp). I had an interdiction escape that failed and other ships joined in shortly after our fight started because we were zigzagging around near a crowded space port.
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Well mining is usually the more boring activity in space sims or similar games (khm..EVE Online), but as you suggested, they can be a little more exciting, if you have to use your brain and skill while scanning and finding the correct asteroids (just like in EVE Online). I hope they fix it, because I like to carebare from time to time, and mining is great for that.
The refinery module really needs some automation as well. At the moment, if you pick up, say a 0.10 unit copper rock, you can't pick up non-copper rocks unless you empty the refinery first (right panel, navigate to module, purge). Also, if you're scooping up rocks and the refinery reaches 1.0 units worth of ore, you have to process and empty the refinery before you can pick up further rocks. It requires too much silly micromanagement - typically while you're in the middle of another activity (scooping).
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Thank god they fixed alt-tabbing. Skype calls were messing with my game time yesterday. bonescraper will be happy to learn about the fuel fix.
Yeah, that's what you needed to do, at the expense of some height pixels. Now everything is nice and tidy.
The new patch borked the missions btw.
bonescraper
Guest
Oh, great... So you're spamming me with penises while sitting comfortably inside Azeban City when i'm trying to cool down my Type 6 after a hyperspace jump with a star in front of my face. Enjoy your 66k fine.
BTW 3 patches in one day? Those guys are busy today.
BTW 3 patches in one day? Those guys are busy today.
SmartCheetah
Arcane
- Joined
- May 7, 2013
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Bros, if I'll buy Mercenary Edition nao, will I get access to beta as well?
Nah.. merc edition is $50 and the beta is $25.
SmartCheetah
Arcane
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So looks like I got to pay 50£ for beta and merc edition activated on the release. Fair enough. I loved playing Freelancer but missed previous Elite games. Is it worth to join ya boyz?
bonescraper
Guest
Well if you really want to pay extra to jump in, go ahead. But like i said, it's one, max one and a half month till release. The game at this point has plenty to offer, but it's quite unbalanced. Space truckin' is the fastest way to make money, then it's bounty hunting. Mining and exploration on the other hand is a waste of time atm (cash-wise). Exploration can be pretty satisfying though.
The game is pretty complex and there's no general guide or tutorial or even manual at this point. So it's nice to get the hang of things early. Especially when your only experience with a game of this type before was Freelancer. Don't expect tractor beams, autodocking, enemy compass... and you'll also have to get used to the ship controls, i sucked hard at the beggining. Oh, and prepare to die and lose all your progress early on :D That feeling when you crash your first bought ship, and you can't afford the insurance fee to get it back... priceless :p
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