Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Ryzer]

Why does the "randomize appearance" option almost always create Resetera posters: purple hair, ring in the nose, makeup with a male body and sometimes vagina?
It's been 30 times I click on this button until I get an attractive character to work with, because the charactor editor is seriously deceiving me.
Why picking the gender doesn't change automatically the body type?

 

[Reinhardt]

You shouldn't be able to wipe out all the gobbos

fuck off. what's the point of gobbo genocide if you can't kill them all.

 

[whydoibother]

Essentially, we're unintentionally beta testing content for the console version, as has often been the case.

Most people will not have played Act III by the time they have to ship a PlayStation release version.
You can't push a version and have it up in a day, like on Steam. Sony check shit, add their own stuff on top, it has to be given to them a week or more before release. And its 50+ hours to get to Act III, do normies even play 2-3 hours per day on average?

I hope the PlayStation release coincides with a PC performance patch, however.

 

[GaelicVigil]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city. Why the hell do we need to "explore" this racial bullshit when these races weren't even around en masse in Faerun at all, according to lore?

 

[whydoibother]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city.

Tieflings in Baldur's Gate is normal, there was some split, war, a city falling, etc. Complicated.
Giths, no. They are interdimensional aliens from far away. Dragonborn didn't even exist back then iirc, they came into existence more recently in the timeline.

 

[JamesDixon]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city. Why the hell do we need to "explore" this racial bullshit when these races weren't even around en masse in Faerun at all, according to lore?

Nope, that was all added in the 2000s under Wizards.

 

[dukeofwoodberry]

You shouldn't be able to wipe out all the gobbos

fuck off. what's the point of gobbo genocide if you can't kill them all.

You shouldn't be able to wipe them out with your side taking no losses

 

[GaelicVigil]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city.

Tieflings in Baldur's Gate is normal, there was some split, war, a city falling, etc. Complicated.
Giths, no. They are interdimensional aliens from far away. Dragonborn didn't even exist back then iirc, they came into existence more recently in the timeline.

In other words, WotC created diversity deliberately in Faerun so we could setup stories about "racism". Sounds awfully like what they're doing IRL to me. That people can't see the heavy-handed political messaging in this game is beyond ridiculous to me.

 

[Johnny Biggums]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city. Why the hell do we need to "explore" this racial bullshit when these races weren't even around en masse in Faerun at all, according to lore?

It's because diversity is Baldur's Gate's strength now. I get it, I think we all do, it's structurally propagandistic, but that's not the whole story here. There's still a game with mechancs and C&C and a story behind it all that we can examine and enjoy.

 

[Smashing Axe]

You do fight githyanki multiple times in BG2, though granted that was set in Amn.

 

[Mortmal]

Essentially, we're unintentionally beta testing content for the console version, as has often been the case.

Most people will not have played Act III by the time they have to ship a PlayStation release version.
You can't push a version and have it up in a day, like on Steam. Sony check shit, add their own stuff on top, it has to be given to them a week or more before release. And its 50+ hours to get to Act III, do normies even play 2-3 hours per day on average?

I hope the PlayStation release coincides with a PC performance patch, however.

Around 368 individuals have managed to complete the game, with many more likely progressing through Act 3 and also potentially reporting bugs. Considering the variety of playthroughs and choices made by these players, it's still an impressive number of testers providing their input without charge....

 

[Fedora Master]

lmao
Act 2 Ending Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[whydoibother]

In other words, WotC created diversity deliberately in Faerun so we could setup stories about "racism".

No? You could have stories about racism with just dwarfs, orcs, elves and their half-equivalents.
The devil-people, dragon-people and space lizard people were added, because its cool and fun to have more toys to play with.
I think you are letting your confirmation bias fool you here, and you are seeing your political enemies in a place where you should be seeing just a new lineup of toys being sold.

 

[whydoibother]

lmao
Act 2 Ending Spoiler

Spoiler

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Command: Drop Weapon is also how you can get the magic sword in the tutorial, for those who are struggling.

 

[GaelicVigil]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city. Why the hell do we need to "explore" this racial bullshit when these races weren't even around en masse in Faerun at all, according to lore?

It's because diversity is Baldur's Gate's strength now. I get it, I think we all do, it's structurally propagandistic, but that's not the whole story here. There's still a game with mechancs and C&C and a story behind it all that we can examine and enjoy.

Haven't gotten to the last part yet.

 

[Reinhardt]

You shouldn't be able to wipe out all the gobbos

fuck off. what's the point of gobbo genocide if you can't kill them all.

You shouldn't be able to wipe them out with your side taking no losses

i had frog almost killed. that's enough losses.

 

[GaelicVigil]

In other words, WotC created diversity deliberately in Faerun so we could setup stories about "racism".

No? You could have stories about racism with just dwarfs, orcs, elves and their half-equivalents.
The devil-people, dragon-people and space lizard people were added, because its cool and fun to have more toys to play with.
I think you are letting your confirmation bias fool you here, and you are seeing your political enemies in a place where you should be seeing just a new lineup of toys being sold.

This is the Dungeons & Dragons in 2023 that we're all supposed to be impressed with. And people look at me like I'm weird.

 

[Johnny Biggums]

Were Tielfings, Githyankee, dragon people, etc even in Faerun at all in the 90s? How the F did we get this zoo in this setting all of a sudden? Explain this. Baldur's Gate IIRC was a human city. Why the hell do we need to "explore" this racial bullshit when these races weren't even around en masse in Faerun at all, according to lore?

It's because diversity is Baldur's Gate's strength now. I get it, I think we all do, it's structurally propagandistic, but that's not the whole story here. There's still a game with mechancs and C&C and a story behind it all that we can examine and enjoy.

Haven't gotten to the last part yet.

Fair enough.

 

[GaelicVigil]

"What's wrong bro? Don't you like D&D?"

 

[jf8350143]

Started a second playthrough. Going under dark again makes me realize another thing I don't like about the thrid chapter.

They should spend more resources to create more diverse areas instead of shoving so much stuff in Baulder's Gate.

It's a game with mind flayers, think about the potential if you get to go to Menzoberranzan, and put the ending in a mind flayer colony, or a gith city. It would be much more interesting. Instead we spend half of the game running around a generic medival fantasy city.

 

[whydoibother]

This is the Dungeons & Dragons in 2023 that we're all supposed to be impressed with. And people look at me like I'm weird.

The gith were originally humans (or elves?) that were enslaved by mind flayers, and created to be a servile slave caste for the big brain empire. I labeled them space lizards, because I am a funny person, and I do the humor thing. I forgot people here have penalty on INT rolls.
Also, looked it up, apparently gith were introduced in the 1980s. Muh woke. 99% of the time when you people see ideology, its literally just marketing. These products aren't as political as you think. Its just whatever sells.

 

[whydoibother]

They should spend more resources to create more diverse areas instead of shoving so much stuff in Baulder's Gate.

create more diverse areas

diverse

Nice try, liberal.

 

[GaelicVigil]

In other words, WotC created diversity deliberately in Faerun so we could setup stories about "racism".

No? You could have stories about racism with just dwarfs, orcs, elves and their half-equivalents.
The devil-people, dragon-people and space lizard people were added, because its cool and fun to have more toys to play with.
I think you are letting your confirmation bias fool you here, and you are seeing your political enemies in a place where you should be seeing just a new lineup of toys being sold.

This is the Dungeons & Dragons in 2023 that we're all supposed to be impressed with. And people look at me like I'm weird.

Here's the D&D I know: White human men killing the fuck out of your damn lizard people. No questions asked:

 

[whydoibother]

Here's the D&D I know: White human men killing the fuck out of your damn lizard people.

And then someone said: but can I play as an orc? And the product expanded, and you can do more stuff now.
Or do you expect Hearts of Iron to only let you play as USA or something stupid like that?

 

[jf8350143]

Games like this desperately need more punishments or trade offs for being a goodie two shoes/idealist.

Take the druid/tiefling situation. Say you make the druids shut down their ritual. You shouldn't be able to wipe out all the gobbos and everything work out perfectly. You should lose like a third of the druid population and some precious druid artifacts. You saved the refugees but at a cost. Gamed like this give no consequences for picking the "good" option

Being a goodie two shoes in this game already cost you a whole tadpole skill tree, and the game didn't even recognize that you are being a good guy. I'd say that's enough punishment.