What's the best looking and spectacular game out there?

[kingcomrade]

ARMA isn't very good though.

 

[MetalCraze]

Crysis is clearly a PC shooter with its slower pacing compared to console shooters that are nothing but firefights.

Are you seriously saying that the gameplay on consoles is faster and a slower gameplay makes it more PC like?

The gameplay in Crysis is crap. It's slow paced because it is based around a retarded cloaking. You can't just rush in and kill everyone like you'd do in a proper arcade shooter. You have to kill a dude by dude and if only it was because of a game having a stealth focus. But there is no stealth, just cheats.

As for AI, I don't remember anyone complaining about the AI of Doom, Quake, Duke, Unreal, Far Cry.

That's because those games were about taking a big gun and chaotically killing everything that moves.
Crysis is completely ruined by its slow pace and cheats like health regen which untalented devs always balance by throwing 10 tough enemies at you at once. It's when AI completely forgetting about you when it shouldn't really shines.

And if anything, the nano suit made the game more interesting by innovating a bit on the formula. Your characer can die pretty quickly, and the nano suit was really necessary.

Yes they made your character a weakling and then let you cheat. Innovation my ass.

Max Payne also could've died easily. He didn't need retarded cloaks, enemy radars and health regens to blast his way through a level filled with enemies. Dual uzis and some painkillers were perfectly enough.

"Dumbed down" from what?

From the good arcade shooters.

The most retarded thing about modern arcade shooters is when they try to be "tacticool". I mean you add stuff like the inability to carry many weapons at once and die more easily but why the fuck do you also add hitscans, health regens and cheats that make you 100x times more superior to an enemy if you use a "realism" as an excuse?

Nanosuit lets me send cars flying but carrying more than 2 weapons is too heavy?

 

[Multidirectional]

Max Payne also could've died easily. He didn't need retarded cloaks, enemy radars and health regens to blast his way through a level filled with enemies. Dual uzis and some painkillers were perfectly enough.

Ah.. Don't tell me you actually forgot about the slow-mo ability in Max Payne. It slows down Max's movement too, yes, but not his aiming.

Cloak in Crysis is powerful, but let's not pretend it makes you completely invisible. If you get close to enemies while cloaked they do notice that something is there and can start shooting in your general direction blindly. And that can kill you. Also you can't shoot while cloaked and need to get behind cover after every single shot if you want to stay unnoticed. Valid way to play, yes, but not the only one. And I appreciate Crysis for letting me experiment with suit powers and environments to make my own experience. It's up to me to make it fun and I'm fine with it. Not one of the greatest shooters, definitely, but certainly better than most shooters nowadays. And certainly does feel like a PC game.
And surely by two weapon limit you meant "two rifle limit" ? Because in addition to that you can carry pistols and a launcher, plus all sorts of explosives. Not the biggest arsenal there could be, but not the smallest either.

 

[felipepepe]

This is weird, but I agree with every word Skyway posted.

 

[Gord]

Since when is Crysis an "arcade" shooter?

Well, I don't know what it is (except form a tech-demo?) but I never had the impression that it aspired to be an arc...

Wait...

It's Skyway trolling again...

 

[MetalCraze]

Ah.. Don't tell me you actually forgot about the slow-mo ability in Max Payne. It slows down Max's movement too, yes, but not his aiming.

His aiming is the only thing that isn't slowed down. Slo-mo or not enemy bullets hit him just as well. He won't regen after killing another two guys and even a single shotgun blast can take him down.
And the game is anything but slow paced even with something called SLOW motion. Now how much more ironic can it get?

Cloak in Crysis is powerful, but let's not pretend it makes you completely invisible. If you get close to enemies while cloaked they do notice that something is there and can start shooting in your general direction blindly.

Enemies were noticing me only when I was coming within 4-5 meters of them. Now why the fuck would you go so close with an assault rifle designed to take down enemies from 200-300?

Also you can't shoot while cloaked and need to get behind cover after every single shot if you want to stay unnoticed.

Yes and that's the problem. Why can't I just fucking rush inside and kill everyone in 3 minutes like in good arcade shooters? No I need to fucking spend a minute killing only 4-5 guys due to a retarded gameplay and can't even strafe around like mad while doing so.

And I appreciate Crysis for letting me experiment with suit powers and environments to make my own experience. It's up to me to make it fun and I'm fine with it.

You can't experiment in Crysis. It's just you, the cloak and an assault rifle. No matter what you do you still cloak all the time, move in front of enemies without them seeing you and shoot them with your assault rifle.

There's zero variety.

And certainly does feel like a PC game.

Health regen, quest compass, enemy radar, hide-in-a-plain-view - very fucking PC'ish. Oh you mean "personal console"?

And surely by two weapon limit you meant "two rifle limit" ? Because in addition to that you can carry pistols and a launcher, plus all sorts of explosives. Not the biggest arsenal there could be, but not the smallest either.

Wow 2 rifles, 1 launcher and explosives! Wow that's soooo much I lose myself in all the choices.

Since when is Crysis an "arcade" shooter?

Since forever?

I hope you don't mean that we will now learn that Crysis is a very tactical shooter with great realism? That will be one helluva plot twist.

 

[Multidirectional]

You can't experiment in Crysis. It's just you, the cloak and an assault rifle. No matter what you do you still cloak all the time

So it's a dumbed down game and yet you still suck at it? Good to know.

Wow 2 rifles, 1 launcher and explosives! Wow that's soooo much I lose myself in all the choices.

Hey I'm just correcting you on your bullshit. It's certainly not the 2 weapon limit like in DNF. Don't bullshit and you won't get corrected. No need to get dramatic either.

 

[MetalCraze]

Yes, when you run out of arguments you use:

"Cuz you have zero problems cloaking and killing enemies while they don't see you even if you are standing right in front of them - that means you suck"

Hey I'm just correcting you on your bullshit. It's certainly not the 2 weapon limit like in DNF. Don't bullshit and you won't get corrected. No need to get dramatic either.

Where was I saying something about DNF?
You can defend your gradient of "tacticool" shit all you want it will still remain "tacticool" shit

 

[Multidirectional]

Yes, when you run out of arguments you use:

"Cuz you have zero problems cloaking and killing enemies while they don't see you even if you are standing right in front of them - that means you suck"

Who used that? Certainly not me. What does that even mean anyway? I guess you know if I don't. I just meant it's possible to play the game without cloak and on Delta difficulty, which is true. But I'm not going to try to prove it to you, I would need to reinstall and make videos just to make random whiny bitch I don't even know believe it. Fuck that.
And yeah, we all know you never run out of arguments. Be they real or made up. Good on you.

You can defend your gradient of "tacticool" shit all you want

Don't know what that means either. Me no good on englishez I guess.

 

[MetalCraze]

I'm not denying that it's possible to play the game on retarded difficulty without the cloak. Just stay 50m away from AI / reload often.

But it only makes Crysis, an arcade shooter, even more slow paced.

 

[Multidirectional]

It's just you, the cloak and an assault rifle. No matter what you do you still cloak all the time

I'm not denying that it's possible to play the game on retarded difficulty without the cloak.

No, of course you're not. How could I ever doubt it?
By the way, what's retarded about highest difficulty in Crysis? That you need to be careful or you'll die quickly? Or that koreans actually speak korean? Elaborate.

 

[MetalCraze]

No, of course you're not. How could I ever doubt it?

Turning off the cloak is called "experimenting" now.

By the way, what's retarded about highest difficulty in Crysis? That you need to be careful or you'll die quickly? Or that koreans actually speak korean? Elaborate.

It's when enemies start to absorb bullets like a sponge absorbs water while the player character can go down in 2-3. And there's not a thing changing about the actual gameplay or what AI can do.

No it isn't challenging. It's retarded and it shows a complete lack of any creativity and balance. Which is exactly how it's in Crysis and console shooters. And why would you want Crysis even slower?

Arcade shooters are all about dodging bullets while blasting off enemies en masse.
Crysis has zero tactics both for player and AI. It uses hitscan for weapons. It uses downright cheats as a gameplay. It's an arcade shooter that isn't fun.

 

[Multidirectional]

It's when enemies start to absorb bullets like a sponge absorbs water while the player character can go down in 2-3.

It happens when you play with silencers. Also AI gets very dumb when you use them. Silencers are definitely broken in this game and should not be used. They probably shouldn't have included them.

 

[Gord]

Anyway the thread is about great looking games to show of on a new rig, so Crysis is still obligatory.

 

[Oriebam]

It's when enemies start to absorb bullets like a sponge absorbs water while the player character can go down in 2-3.

It happens when you play with silencers. Also AI gets very dumb when you use them. Silencers are definitely broken in this game and should not be used. They probably shouldn't have included them.

As I said, I think in Warhead the koreans get nerfed

The game is still fun to me, a shame they seem to have fucked up crysis 2

 

[BLOBERT]

BRO SKYWAY CANT ELABORATE HIS ONLY MO IS TO POST THAT NEW GAMES ARE SHIT BLALBLBLBLBALANLNA ARMA2 IS GREAT

BROS OLLLOLOLOLLOLLOL I CAN PLAY TOO

SHIT GAME SHIT HEALTH REGEN IN SHIT LINEAR SHOOTER.

BRO SKYWAYS YOU CANNOT SALVAGE YOUR HARDCORE REP PLEASE STOP OR AT LEAST DO US THE COURTEDY OF MAKING EVERY POST EXACTLY THE SAME SO THE POOR NEW FUCKS ARENT MISLED BY THE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WORD PLACEMENT AND THINK YOU HAVE A NEW OR INTERESTING VIEWPOINT

 

[Admiral jimbob]

It's an arcade shooter that isn't fun.

If you tell people they're not really having fun enough times they'll believe you eventually

He's right about Crysis being pretty shit, though. I never played the original, only Warhead - which I torrented to test my new computer at the time - and I only got through it because it was literally three hours long. Wouldn't even consider spending money on it. Christ, the game is supposed to let you be Predator and it's boring after ten minutes of dropping through roofs and throwing turtles at Koreans. That's doing something really, really wrong, it should not be hard to make that satisfying.

EDIT: also, it was easy as shit on the hardest difficulty and I played it as arcadeishly/experimentally as I could. I'm not that good at shooters.

 

[Cassidy]

Others may disagree, but Risen had very impressive visuals, which were even further augmented by the sheer scale of it.

 

[Sceptic]

He's right about Crysis being pretty shit, though. I never played the original, only Warhead/quote]The original was about twice the length. It was also twice longer than it should've been. Yeah.

TBH the run-and-gunning in Warhead was more fun than in Crysis (not hard, since it was very, very shitty in Crysis) but Crysis did have a handful of levels at the beginning where you could stealth your way through. These were the best by far, especially the night escape... which of course ends with a shitty miniboss fight. Then the aliens appear and the game goes through the bottom of the barrel. And then you get the fucking escort mission.

All in all I found Warhead to be more fun thanks to no escort mission and generally less derp, and the shorter length. But it's still an inferior shooter, especially after Far Cry.