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Company News Troika Demise Confirmation

Sol Invictus

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No, that's just the sound of you being a stupid fuck because you assumed I ditched my 'mismanagement' theory.
 

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Exitium said:
No, that's just the sound of you being a stupid fuck because you assumed I ditched my 'mismanagement' theory.
*snip*
 

Sol Invictus

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In all honesty, why can't it be both? Activision could have very well dropped the ball on some of the issues (like releasing the game on the same day as Half Life 2, not QAing the game, etc) and Troika could have been mismanaged.

Chris Taylor told me yesterday that it is common for the developers to leave the QA work to publishers, but some developers (like Irrational) hire their own in-house QA teams because they know what to test, and most publishers aren't incredibly apt at handling RPGs, in any case. That would explain the bugs.

The game not being tested and being full of bugs would be both the publisher's and the developer's faults. It's not one or the other. Troika may have mismanaged their priorities and allowed for too much feature creep (I have said this before), and Activision was probably unprepared to deal with the burden of QAing the gameplay, on top of having to QA the hardware compatibilities, engine functionality and so much more.

Where did I flip flop on this?
 

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I heard a rumour that Troika were wiped out by a secret cabal of vampires for revealing their nefarious machinations on the human race throughout the enitirety of history.
That's just what I heard. :)
 

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Exitium said:
In all honesty, why can't it be both? Activision could have very well dropped the ball on some of the issues (like releasing the game on the same day as Half Life 2, not QAing the game, etc) and Troika could have been mismanaged.

Chris Taylor told me yesterday that it is common for the developers to leave the QA work to publishers, but some developers (like Irrational) hire their own in-house QA teams because they know what to test, and most publishers aren't incredibly apt at handling RPGs, in any case. That would explain the bugs.

The game not being tested and being full of bugs would be both the publisher's and the developer's faults. It's not one or the other. Troika may have mismanaged their priorities and allowed for too much feature creep (I have said this before), and Activision was probably unprepared to deal with the burden of QAing the gameplay, on top of having to QA the hardware compatibilities, engine functionality and so much more.

Where did I flip flop on this?
Where did you flipflop?

Why, on all of it my dear Ex.

People told you both those things while you were in "BLAEM TEH POOBLISHUR" and "TROIKA SUKCS" modes, but you insisted it was either one or the other, depending on whether you were flipping or flopping.

Now you are flipflopping at the same time, and its both "BLAEM TEH POOBLISHUR" and "TROIKA SUKCS" at once, because you have some deep seated need to be acknowledged as being right, despite flipflopping constantly, and consistently depending on public opinion.


What's your next flipflop going to be?

"OGMS IT WAS TEH EHVUL ALIENS DAT FUKCED UP BLOODLIONS"

*snip I think we can all agree that nobody wants to scroll all the way down because you think it's funny to post a scroller*
 

Sol Invictus

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Ave: Shut the fuck up, and stop making this about me. And stop with the god damn spam, this isn't your fucking playground.
 

Fez

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You'd better watch out Avè.

avdeath1eg.jpg


Learn to shut up before you get taken out. Tim Cain never knew when to keep quiet either and look what happened to him.
 

Sol Invictus

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Fez said:
You'd better watch out Avè.

avdeath1eg.jpg


Learn to shut up before you get taken out. Tim Cain never knew when to keep quiet either and look what happened to him.

Hey, good one. Hahaha. Is that a Mandarin?
 

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Exitium said:
Ave: Shut the fuck up, and stop making this about me. And stop with the god damn spam, this isn't your fucking playground.
Thanks for editing my last post, and not tagging it.

Getting pretty desperate if you have to edit my post to make you look good, ne?

@fez, you are the photoshop master.


Oops, you didnt just edit my last post, you edited my last two posts.(you see how he copy & pasted wrong, so instead of being FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP, he made it FLIP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP-FLOP-FLIP-FLOP)

Way to go.
 

Sol Invictus

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Am I imagining something or didn't you make a gigantic post consisting of FLIP ..... FLOP ......... FLIP ...... FLOP ...... FLIP ...... FLOP.... etc?

Stop lying.
 

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It's an assassin from some Chinese comic I had, I can barely follow what it's about. I just liked the art. So I pinched it. The dagger he is holding looks wicked (in the non-surfer sense) and dangerous and the claw hand was a nice touch. Reminded me of Nosferatu.

Most of it was drivel, but that one panel looked great.

I was fairly sure it'd be Mandarin as it looked like the sort of sterotypes you see. Kind of what you'd expect in a comic I suppose.
 

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Exitium said:
Am I imagining something or didn't you make a gigantic post consisting of FLIP ..... FLOP ......... FLIP ...... FLOP ...... FLIP ...... FLOP.... etc?

Stop lying.
You really must be getting quite desperate.


Saint, can you please check, ta.

Using admin powers to edit posts purely for selfish reasons is childish, even for you ex.
 

Sol Invictus

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I didn't edit your damn post. That's how it was when I saw it.

In any case, I'm going to edit it now - to *snip* so people don't have to scroll all the way down thanks to you.
 

M0rphz0rz

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Fez said:
You'd better watch out Avè.

avdeath1eg.jpg


Learn to shut up before you get taken out. Tim Cain never knew when to keep quiet either and look what happened to him.

A Codex classic. :lol:

Fez, you definitely have too much spare time.
 

Avé

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Exitium said:
I didn't edit your damn post. That's how it was when I saw it.

In any case, I'm going to edit it now - to *snip* so people don't have to scroll all the way down thanks to you.
Yeah right.

I'll post a thread on site comments and ask an admin to check the logs, or you can admit it now that you fucked with my posts to make me look worse, and you look better.

Either way you'll still look like a childish vindictive fucktard.

I mean, why would I make it up?

Any time you challenge me, so far I've been perfectly happy to respond in kind, but you on the other hand, have a history of using your admin powers when things get too "tough" for you.


Pathetic piece of shit.
 

Sol Invictus

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All you do is whinge, Ave. Stop being a pussy.

It's funny how at least 10 of your last few posts consisted of nothing more than mindless arguments against me, nit picking on the things I've said, and arguing with me just for the sake of it. I don't think you contribute as much to the Codex as you think you do by behaving as asinine as you are. I don't know why you decided to insist on arguing the 'flip flop' point by turning this entire thread (which had nothing to do with it) into yet another one of your mindless arguments.

It's dead, over and done with. Nobody wants to hear about how you think I'm a 'flip flopper' even when I'm not 'flip flopping'. That term is getting tired and old. It was tired and old when the Republicans kept referring to Kerry as a flip flopper. It was tired and old when Kerry refuted their arguments. It was tired and old when the insult kept getting hurled back and forth between everyone who's ever used it. It's more tired, and older than it ever was, now, and you are kicking a dead horse.

For good measure, just shut the fuck up, Ave.
 

Avé

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Exitium said:
All you do is whinge, Ave. Stop being a pussy.

It's funny how at least 10 of your last few posts consisted of nothing more than mindless arguments against me, nit picking on the things I've said, and arguing with me just for the sake of it. I don't think you contribute as much to the Codex as you think you do by behaving as asinine as you are. I don't know why you decided to insist on arguing the 'flip flop' point by turning this entire thread (which had nothing to do with it) into yet another one of your mindless arguments.

It's dead, over and done with. Nobody wants to hear about how you think I'm a 'flip flopper' even when I'm not 'flip flopping'. That term is getting tired and old. It was tired and old when the Republicans kept referring to Kerry as a flip flopper. It was tired and old when Kerry refuted their arguments. It was tired and old when the insult kept getting hurled back and forth between everyone who's ever used it. It's more tired, and older than it ever was, now, and you are kicking a dead horse.

For good measure, just shut the fuck up, Ave.
Where have I ever indicated that I think I contribute more to the codex then any other member?


By the way, nice dodge on the admin editing part.


"OMG HE DISKOVERED MY EDITS, I MUST CHANGE TEH TOPIK!"

Not gonna happen Ex my lovely.
 

Avé

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Exitium said:
Yeah, I edited your post to snip that bullshit scroll spam you posted. Don't like it? Tough. Don't spam.
Now you're trying to rewrite the past.

You know full well you edited the spam into my second post, and doubled the length of it in my first post, and you know perfectly well that that is what I'm referring too.

Again, nice dodge, but not good enough.
 

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Has the RPGCODEX gotten so bad that administrators have to apologise for deleting mindless bullshit spam? Tell me you are fucking kidding me shithead.

As to the topic: So Exitium isn't being a stupid ass anymore by being a fucking jackass who contended that 'no more free rides for troika' was a good thing to say to Troika. Looks to me like the asshole has finally come to his senses and now you DISAGREE WITH HIM? Make up your fucking mind, kid. What in the flying fuck are you bitching on about?
 

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Milktooth said:
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!

Has the RPGCODEX gotten so bad that administrators have to apologise for deleting mindless bullshit spam? Tell me you are fucking kidding me shithead.

As to the topic: So Exitium isn't being a stupid ass anymore by being a fucking jackass who contended that 'no more free rides for troika' was a good thing to say to Troika. Looks to me like the asshole has finally come to his senses and now you DISAGREE WITH HIM? Make up your fucking mind, kid. What in the flying fuck are you bitching on about?
Ex goes quiet for a few minutes, and guess who turns up.


Hello ex, cant refute my arguments, or come up with another dodge?

Didnt think so.
 

Avé

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You know, a site can have vicious little backbiting flame wars all the time
It can have people whose only goal is to find excuses to post gay porn pics
It can have photoshop geniuses who will use any excuse to come up with a new funny pic

It can have all these and still retain credibility.

What it cant have is Admin's editing users messages purely for their own self-aggrandizing goals.

The tag was one thing, and it may even have been deserved, but fucking with people's posts because they expose you as a shallow wannabe whose opinions change like the wind according to what most people think, is a whole different thing.
 

Sol Invictus

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Whose opinions change like the wind according to what most people think
Really now? How many people agreed with me on my opinions on Troika's mismanagement?

What it cant have is Admin's editing users messages purely for their own self-aggrandizing goals.
Scrolling spam is unnecessary and that is why it was removed. Don't like it? Don't spam. Them's the breaks.
 

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