The Witcher 3 Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Black_Willow]

I dunno, my GF enjoyed Witcher I. But on the other hand, she also enjoyed FO:NV, PS:T and KotOR II, so maybe she's just cool.

Damn, where do you get a girl like that?

In an University of Technology somewhere in western Potato. She has always been "nerdy" and fascinated with computers, but she didn't have luck for good guys.
Of course, until I showed up.

 

[Ninja Destroyer]

also I found the sex embarassing in the witcher 2 just because it's video game sex and it is idiotical on principle, but only an effeminate idiot or an ugly feminist would object to the treatment of women in the witcher 2

The difference between Bioware and CDP guys is that the latter ones had actually some intercourse, so let them make some more. For educational purposes

 

[Commissar Draco]

Rougey/Lesi has a point: Biowhores make games for fags, metro sexual furrfaggots and housewife's and guess what? I didn't bough any of them since NWN1 Diamond Edition (bought for custom modules ). But unlilke her I am tolerant man and don't spend my time whining on net how their games affront my manliness. Check Your privilege Lessi.

 

[Roguey]

What's Lesi's line of work?

Something that involves occasional traveling and mandatory use of BlackBerries.

Is Lesi fluent in any European language other than English? I just wonder if she actually read the books, or she just occasionally lurks on wikipedia.

She speaks and writes Thai, Cantonese, and English and can read and write in Katakana and Hiragana but I don't think mastery of all languages is her superpower.

However it is absurd to say that the way to turn it into Skyrim (sales wise) is to appeal to women. They are an incredibly small portion of the audience.

I find this claim dubious especially considering Skyrim's efficacy among both men and women.

On a Skyrim-related note, I had a paczek today (even though I have no intention of fasting...). I think Witcher III should follow Skyrim's lead and make PUNCHKEY the sweetroll equivalent. Think of the memes.

Cool story bro.
A good female friend who isn't even much into gaming likes the Witcher precisely because Geralt looks like a real man and not some metrosexual faggot who is whiny and faggy and a faggot.
Another female friend who is kinda into PC RPGs likes the Witcher for its solid characters and good story.

Assuming that all women want games where there's faggotry is absolutely retarded. Because only stupid hipster girls do, while real women actually like real men.

I'm aware women aren't a hivemind. Yet the impression I'm getting is that The Witcher isn't very popular with a lot of women who play other RPGs and that could be fixed without turning Geralt into "some metrosexual faggot who is whiny and faggy and a faggot."

 

[UserNamer]

Biofags never change. The Witcher's straight masculine awesomeness is one of the best things about it.

CD Projekt is never going to get the sales they want if they're going to alienate nearly half the population.

Cool story bro.
A good female friend who isn't even much into gaming likes the Witcher precisely because Geralt looks like a real man and not some metrosexual faggot who is whiny and faggy and a faggot.
Another female friend who is kinda into PC RPGs likes the Witcher for its solid characters and good story.

Assuming that all women want games where there's faggotry is absolutely retarded. Because only stupid hipster girls do, while real women actually like real men.

As a Real Man IRL I can attest to this. Also from what I gather, female romance novels are full of rugged handsome alpha types, you know, the geralt type. Roguey believes geralt alienates female gamers because he is out of touch with both women and men. I'd say the saga is successful enough as it is, and if a girl isn't interested in this saga, it's not because geralt is successful with women.

Of course there is a demographic that can only be satiated by games with an high content density of homosexual and inter species romances, but you can't always
cater to everyone

 

[Spectacle]

Hmm, has anyone tried to accuse the people who criticize Geralt's relationship with women of "slut-shaming"?

 

[Jick Magger]

Apparently not, Biodrones don't seem to want anything to do with the series.

These people do realize that this is, in fact, a low fantasy RPG and not a Dating sim, right?

And shame on Bioware! For the equalists they claim to be, they continue to aggressively alienate the poor discriminated furry fanbase!

 

[Roguey]

Apparently not, Biodrones don't seem to want anything to do with the series.

I like Psdo, she's a good artist and working on that Steam Bandits thing along with those ex-Obsidian people. CD Projekt would be foolish to ignore the opinion of someone in the industry imo.

 

[Somberlain]

In 2013 edition of Divine Comedy the ninth circle of Hell would be BSN.

 

[Angthoron]

Apparently not, Biodrones don't seem to want anything to do with the series.

I like Psdo, she's a good artist and working on that Steam Bandits thing along with those ex-Obsidian people. CD Projekt would be foolish to ignore the opinion of someone in the industry imo.

Yes, they should also remember to take all the DICE keynotes to heart and remember them in their day-to-day operations.

 

[Keshik]

I surely hope that that post about furries was a joke or satire of some sort. So what changes could CDPR make to no longer alienate female fans ?

 

[JarlFrank]

Also from what I gather, female romance novels are full of rugged handsome alpha types, you know, the geralt type.

Shitty fantasy romance novels are my guilty pleasure so I can confirm this.

 

[made]

I estimate 50% of TW sales fall to fat BSN-dwelling chicks who swoon over Geralt but won't admit to it openly for fear of compromising their hardcore feminist internet persona.

 

[sea]

I totally understand the argument that The Witcher was sexist (it was) but the second game was far better about it. Okay, it has boobs, and they really could/should have done full male nudity if they wanted to avoid double standards and more accusations, but there is very little actual objectification and when you do see nudity, it is in the context of the story and makes sense for the characters and situations. Sure, all the naked woman you do see are basically supermodels, which in itself is a fair point, but so are pretty much all the men in the series as well (the attractive ones anyway).

People have the right to get upset at what they want and to ignore a game if they don't approve of it, but treating BioWare games as some bastion of equal opportunity and fair gender portrayals is pretty hilarious to me as well. I don't think "shitty, cheap soap opera softcore porn pandering" is much to praise no matter how many gays and lesbians it has in it. The fact that it's all those demographics have to cling to kinda makes me sad.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

"Feminist guy" lmao.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

Apparently not, Biodrones don't seem to want anything to do with the series.

I like Psdo, she's a good artist and working on that Steam Bandits thing along with those ex-Obsidian people. CD Projekt would be foolish to ignore the opinion of someone in the industry imo.

Like the other chick who posts on the BSN that's also a developer and has a Dragon Age 2 my little pony avatar and writes lesbian dragon age 2 fan fiction in her spare time? Yes, there is one.

 

[Rahdulan]

I totally understand the argument that The Witcher was sexist (it was) but the second game was far better about it. Okay, it has boobs, and they really could/should have done full male nudity if they wanted to avoid double standards and more accusations, but there is very little actual objectification and when you do see nudity, it is in the context of the story and makes sense for the characters and situations. Sure, all the naked woman you do see are basically supermodels, which in itself is a fair point, but so are pretty much all the men in the series as well (the attractive ones anyway).

People have the right to get upset at what they want and to ignore a game if they don't approve of it, but treating BioWare games as some bastion of equal opportunity and fair gender portrayals is pretty hilarious to me as well. I don't think "shitty, cheap soap opera softcore porn pandering" is much to praise no matter how many gays and lesbians it has in it. The fact that it's all those demographics have to cling to kinda makes me sad.

This whole thing gets on my nerves because, in most cases, it's basically just self-absorbed people forcing contemporary agendas on a fictional setting without knowing anything about it and the worst thing is that the entire industry is apparently giving them attention. If someone was a dick he could raise the opposite point about women adventures in fantasy games and how it would be extremely inconvenient to have them along when they started leaving a trail of menstrual fluid behind them, killing any chance of evading your pursuers in the process. They won't because it's damn fantasy, though.

And before someone interjects no, keep your fetishes to yourselves.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

Whoa... that's... quite the imagination you've got there, Rahdulan.

 

[Shadenuat]

This thread has been contaminated with biowaresocialism.
Commence aura cleanse.

Bit better, though I still feel very angry.

Every time anything gets away from Bioware Social it just pisses me off. Not even one of these rainbow riders is interested in realistic and fair relationship between males and females, or whatever. Bioware romances and all the fanfics and mods coming from that just prove these shits think their porn is more acceptable than any other porn, and boy they are defensive when it comes to their porn. They want their emotionaly engaging masturbatory fiction fine-tuned for their tastes and fanbases and oh my, they will wage goddamn bloody war on any white hetero male in sight... just because. Sort of inversed racism.

 

[Darklife]

Hohohohoho. As much as I'd like to see my toiling countrymen upstage Bethesda I think this is all pretty much bullshit. CDProjekt has nowhere near the financial resources necessary to create a huge open world game and actually populate it with something worth exploring. This is going to be Gothic 3 all over again.

 

[Gord]

Every time anything gets away from Bioware Social it just pisses me off. Not even one of these rainbow riders is interested in realistic and fair relationship between males and females, or whatever. Bioware romances and all the fanfics and mods coming from that just prove these shits think their porn is more acceptable than any other porn, and boy they are defensive when it comes to their porn. They want their emotionaly engaging masturbatory fiction fine-tuned for their tastes and fanbases and oh my, they will wage goddamn bloody war on any white hetero male in sight... just because. Sort of inversed racism.

Well, I usually don't care much about the different sexual tastes of other gamers. For all I care Bioware could also introduce romances with toasters or Sheperds fish-tank.
I do think however that they have reached a point were obvious fan-pandering has turned their games into romance simulators that have to offer every conceivable combination/choice of waifus to placate their fans, which makes the setting and characters even more implausible than they already are.
It's that shit turning up in other franchises that I'm afraid of, because, imho, it surely hasn't improved Biowares games, it's something I don't care about anymore since I discovered the joy of real relationships outside of my right hand and it ties up ressources that are best put into other areas.

Also, artistic freedom should give the possibility to create worlds that are unethical by our standards.
That's not what a writer should be judged upon, but at the most how he treats/presents those issues.

 

[odrzut]

I surely hope that that post about furries was a joke or satire of some sort. So what changes could CDPR make to no longer alienate female fans ?

I don't know, they want to change sex and orientation of main hero and to have equality rights in setting based mostly on feudal Europe.

By same logic Tomb Raider alienates MALE fans, but whatever.

 

[evdk]

I don't know, they want to change sex and orientation of main hero and to have equality rights in setting based mostly on feudal Europe.

By same logic Tomb Raider alienates MALE fans, but whatever.

Not really, huge tits.

 

[JarlFrank]

I don't know, they want to change sex and orientation of main hero and to have equality rights in setting based mostly on feudal Europe.

By same logic Tomb Raider alienates MALE fans, but whatever.

Not really, huge tits.

Exactly. Same logic.

 

[Shadenuat]

Also, artistic freedom should give the possibility to create worlds that are unethical by our standards.

Problem is, seems like gaming journalism is very desperate, so it is ready to project real life problems and politics into games. I remember times when only parents disturbed by violence and also church were so vocal about games, and they were mostly crazy, harmless people who just "cared". Now you can't put a female character into the game unless you follow some sort of secret agenda. Games are judged on the matters of ethics just too harshly, almost as harsh as movies, maybe even more so. And even if a designer would make something right, he will be praised not because of his great work on some character, but because that character promoted true (american) values or some group or minority. Not "Veronica is such a good take on a secluded girl who looks into outside world and tries to change her community", but "Veronica is such a great lesbian character". Not "Arcade Ganon is such a great idea that even evil paramilitary organisation actually have real, living people in it", but "Arcade is such a cool gay".
So, when it comes to creating something with different ethics and cultural acceptable things than in (american) world, I can only wonder how hard would for it be to get a pass in a game... maybe harder than in a book or a movie, as games are so hard pressed today into that mold where they have to be liked by everyone.