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The Ultima Series by Spoony

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I have to wonder how Noah would react to the Codex sometimes. Is he bro enough?
 
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Spoony likes having his own forum where he's revered as a god and no negativity allowed be friendly and respectful :^)

Argh.
 

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I have to wonder how Noah would react to the Codex sometimes. Is he bro enough?
https://encyclopediadramatica.es/The_Spoony_Experiment#Spoony_Vs._Constructive_Criticism
He takes criticism about as well as your average young female who does not spend much time on the internet. Every one who criticizes him is a troll.
Waa, Spoony's being mean and angry again, and he's banning people. And he took my lolly. It's my site, ban-meat. I'll do the fuck I want.
To all the trolls out there on my forum and website, this is not the time to fucking test me. I will hatefuck you with my banhammer.

He's also a fucking hypocrite. He ridiculed Ultimate Warrior (not just his persona but also his political opinions) in many of his videos (remember, he makes his living off doing that). And when the guy suddenly died a few months ago? He said on his twitter: "A MAN HAS JUST DIED. HAVE SOME RESPECT OR I WILL PUT YOU ON MY IGNORE LIST, I HAVE NO TOLERANCE FOR PEOPLE WHO MAKE FUN OF THINGS LIKE THAT" and dedicated a video to his memory. Fuck him, what a hypocritical fuck. And what a backwards way of thinking. You'll be mean to some one when they live, but no one's allowed to say a bad thing about them once they're dead because you got to "respect the dead" (except that rule doesn't apply to Hitler)? I'm sure they appreciate the sentiment when they cease to exist.
 

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Spoony is a big wrestling fan and respects the Ultimate Warrior as a wrestler, at the same time he makes fun of his political views. Its like, you know, liking Arnold Schwarzenegger as an actor but disliking him as a politician. Also, surprise, making fun of people who just died may seem inappropriate to some people. And what the hell has any of that to do with fucking Hitler?
 

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Spoony is a big wrestling fan and respects the Ultimate Warrior as a wrestler, at the same time he makes fun of his political views. Its like, you know, liking Arnold Schwarzenegger as an actor but disliking him as a politician. Also, surprise, making fun of people who just died may seem inappropriate to some people. And what the hell has any of that to do with fucking Hitler?
:D:D

I agree, I thought that spoony's UW videos were totally ok.
The one thing with him that I just can't get over is his thin skin when it comes to the Internet discussions. I mean, you'd think this guy would be at home at Codex but he would go insane from the rude language, swearing, insults, from the negative views on everything and from the constant criticism. He sorta lives in his bubble and ain't nobody fkin trolling him there!
 

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Spoony is a big wrestling fan and respects the Ultimate Warrior as a wrestler, at the same time he makes fun of his political views. Its like, you know, liking Arnold Schwarzenegger as an actor but disliking him as a politician. Also, surprise, making fun of people who just died may seem inappropriate to some people. And what the hell has any of that to do with fucking Hitler?
But he was a horrible wrestler, one of the most untalented and ungrateful guys (despite being pushed to the moon) ever, an embodiment of all that is wrong in how talent was/is promoted in WWF and WCW in the 80s and 90s. Every one trashed him all the time, untill he died and suddenly people started paying tribute to him and saying what a great guy he was.
I have no problem with spoony making money off dressing up like UW and making fun of him, his ramblings are great joke fodder. It's hypocrisy that I hate, and the hivemind behavior of extroverts.

As for what has Hitler got to do with this: Hitler and nazis are trashed all the time in the mainstream media. If you're supposed to respect the dead, then people ought to find some one else to use as an embodiment of evil in their analogies.
The one thing with him that I just can't get over is his thin skin when it comes to the Internet discussions. I mean, you'd think this guy would be at home at Codex but he would go insane from the rude language, swearing, insults, from the negative views on everything and from the constant criticism. He sorta lives in his bubble and ain't nobody fkin trolling him there!
I still can't over the fact that channel awesome reviewers make a living by criticizing the works of other people but can't stand any one criticizing the much worse writing, acting and jokes that goes on in their inane circlejerky cutaway gags. Those people are neurotic. It's just hilarious how some one like the Nostalgia Critic does not understand how he destroys all of his credibility as a critic when he himself insists on making unfunny "movies" with his friends, where he shows to the world that he himself hasn't got any talent what so ever for writing and producing a "movie".
 

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I still fail to the see the supposed hypocrisy, which is probably because there is none. I don't care about why Spoony liked the Warrior or what his merits or failings as a wrestler were. I said there is nothing hypocritical to make fun of someone on some level and yet liking them on another; or appreciate a certain aspect of someones character while disregarding another. (Oh, and you should really just stop making that ridiculous Hitler analogy.)
 

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I fail to understand how The Ultimate Warrior and Hitler are in any meaningful way comparable. One was one of the biggest names in wrestling in the late eighties who died mere days after burying the hatchet with everyone he burned bridges with and made peace with himself, and the other is, well, Hitler.
 

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If you start showing respect to a man whom you've ridiculed for years as soon as he dies because supposedly dead people should some how be safe from spite and ridicule, then by the same logic people should stop bad mouthing Hitler as he is also dead. It's a completely backwards way of thinking as people who don't exist couldn't possibly feel insulted or hurt by such comments where as ridiculing, mean spirited comments and ostracization can actually lower the life quality of a living person. No impact vs negative impact. Hentai with underaged characters vs real child porn. It's a cop-out, typical hypocrite behavior that aims to make the person in question (in this case Spoony) feel good about themselves and morally vindicated. Like having an expensive funeral when your grandparent dies even though you never visited that person or gave a shit about them when they lived. Where as your actions could've had a positive influence on the quality of life of that person back when he/she was alive, any gesture you make when he/she is dead won't have any effect what so ever and is therefore self-gratification disguised as symbolism.
 

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I still can't over the fact that channel awesome reviewers make a living by criticizing the works of other people but can't stand any one criticizing the much worse writing, acting and jokes that goes on in their inane circlejerky cutaway gags. Those people are neurotic. It's just hilarious how some one like the Nostalgia Critic does not understand how he destroys all of his credibility as a critic when he himself insists on making unfunny "movies" with his friends, where he shows to the world that he himself hasn't got any talent what so ever for writing and producing a "movie".
They are movies he makes for fun, and allow people to watch freely... you can't really compare that the expectations and finesse of a movie made by Hollywood you've paid to watch on the cinema... Is the equivalent of looking at our RPG Maker competition and saying that I can't criticize BioWare, because I made an entire game about becoming a dragon.
 

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If you start showing respect to a man whom you've ridiculed for years as soon as he dies because supposedly dead people should some how be safe from spite and ridicule, then by the same logic people should stop bad mouthing Hitler as he is also dead. It's a completely backwards way of thinking as people who don't exist couldn't possibly feel insulted or hurt by such comments where as ridiculing, mean spirited comments and ostracization can actually lower the life quality of a living person. No impact vs negative impact. Hentai with underaged characters vs real child porn. It's a cop-out, typical hypocrite behavior that aims to make the person in question (in this case Spoony) feel good about themselves and morally vindicated. Like having an expensive funeral when your grandparent dies even though you never visited that person or gave a shit about them when they lived. Where as your actions could've had a positive influence on the quality of life of that person back when he/she was alive, any gesture you make when he/she is dead won't have any effect what so ever and is therefore self-gratification disguised as symbolism.
You do know it is possible to respect or even like someone and still make fun of them, right? Comedians do that. And I reject your premise - Spoony's memorial to the ultimate warrior was not a sudden turnaround from his years of making fun of the guy, but a natural response to the death of a nostalgic figure from his childhood who was, in hindsight, incredibly silly and easy to make fun of.

Also, there's a large difference between the man called history's greatest monster and a silly wrestling figure. Grief for the dead doesn't need to apply equally to every person who has died, is dying, or will die. Obviously we tend to care more about the people we know.
 

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If you start showing respect to a man whom you've ridiculed for years as soon as he dies because supposedly dead people should some how be safe from spite and ridicule, then by the same logic people should stop bad mouthing Hitler as he is also dead. It's a completely backwards way of thinking as people who don't exist couldn't possibly feel insulted or hurt by such comments where as ridiculing, mean spirited comments and ostracization can actually lower the life quality of a living person. No impact vs negative impact. Hentai with underaged characters vs real child porn. It's a cop-out, typical hypocrite behavior that aims to make the person in question (in this case Spoony) feel good about themselves and morally vindicated. Like having an expensive funeral when your grandparent dies even though you never visited that person or gave a shit about them when they lived. Where as your actions could've had a positive influence on the quality of life of that person back when he/she was alive, any gesture you make when he/she is dead won't have any effect what so ever and is therefore self-gratification disguised as symbolism.
That post gave me autism
 

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I must've missed the sarcasm in that post.
Must pump more PER on next level up.
 

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Edgy as fuck.
Yes, I'm the one who's edgy because I don't insult people/act like a politician. Only other explanation for that kind of behavior is that he believes in some African voodoo and thinks that insulting the dead will anger the rain Gods.
Also, there's a large difference between the man called history's greatest monster and a silly wrestling figure. Grief for the dead doesn't need to apply equally to every person who has died, is dying, or will die. Obviously we tend to care more about the people we know.
But there needs to be some logical consistency. It has nothing to do with grief, it's about the principle. If you believe that dead people should be off limits for making jokes, then you should adhere to that rule and respect it, rather than only following it when ever it's convenient for you. If you blindly follow self imposed restrictions like that for no logical reason, you're irrational. If you only follow them when ever it's convenient for you but don't really respect those boundaries, then you're a hypocrite. Either a religious nutjob or some one who exploits religion.
They are movies he makes for fun, and allow people to watch freely... you can't really compare that the expectations and finesse of a movie made by Hollywood you've paid to watch on the cinema... Is the equivalent of looking at our RPG Maker competition and saying that I can't criticize BioWare, because I made an entire game about becoming a dragon.
I'm pretty sure that Spoony makes his living off of his videos, as hard at it's to believe given his relatively small fanbase and infrequent output. Of course I don't except the kind of production values from those people (though many internet reviewers have quite good editing and special effects), but if you make a living of criticizing the writing of other people, then you'd better not be a horrible writer yourself. It's not even a matter of "well if you think you're so good, do it yourself", but subjecting your audience to inane, unnecessary, cringe worthy horse manure like Kickassia. And don't tell me "you dont have to watch it if you don't like it" because they advertise those videos on their page and try to use the fanbase they've created through their regular content to get more exposure to those side projects.
 

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Edgy as fuck.
Yes, I'm the one who's edgy because I don't insult people/act like a politician. Only other explanation for that kind of behavior is that he believes in some African voodoo and thinks that insulting the dead will anger the rain Gods.
Also, there's a large difference between the man called history's greatest monster and a silly wrestling figure. Grief for the dead doesn't need to apply equally to every person who has died, is dying, or will die. Obviously we tend to care more about the people we know.
But there needs to be some logical consistency. It has nothing to do with grief, it's about the principle. If you believe that dead people should be off limits for making jokes, then you should adhere to that rule and respect it, rather than only following it when ever it's convenient for you. If you blindly follow self imposed restrictions like that for no logical reason, you're irrational. If you only follow them when ever it's convenient for you but don't really respect those boundaries, then you're a hypocrite. Either a religious nutjob or some one who exploits religion.
They are movies he makes for fun, and allow people to watch freely... you can't really compare that the expectations and finesse of a movie made by Hollywood you've paid to watch on the cinema... Is the equivalent of looking at our RPG Maker competition and saying that I can't criticize BioWare, because I made an entire game about becoming a dragon.
I'm pretty sure that Spoony makes his living off of his videos, as hard at it's to believe given his relatively small fanbase and infrequent output. Of course I don't except the kind of production values from those people (though many internet reviewers have quite good editing and special effects), but if you make a living of criticizing the writing of other people, then you'd better not be a horrible writer yourself. It's not even a matter of "well if you think you're so good, do it yourself", but subjecting your audience to inane, unnecessary, cringe worthy horse manure like Kickassia. And don't tell me "you dont have to watch it if you don't like it" because they advertise those videos on their page and try to use the fanbase they've created through their regular content to get more exposure to those side projects.

dude what the fuck, are you 13?
1) we make fun of dead people after theyve been dead long enough except if a) they are literally Hitler b) they killed someone
if no a or b applies, we wait a few years perhaps and then make fun of them. Its social rules, jesus fuck.
What the fuck, did you grow up in a bomb shelter with Cleve Blakemore fucking you in the ass or what

2) Spoony's fanbase is big enough to earn him 4k/month if you check patreon, I wonder how much you make in your job? I sure dont make that much. Im just stating this because you seem to have an idea that he's just some kind of internet nobody but he makes better living than most of us. take that into consideration when judging/not judging how much you should expect from the quality of his content. I expect something genuinely funny because thats not restricted by budget or being a small operation indie team and he kinda delivers. TGWTG on the other hand fails.
 

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And don't tell me "you dont have to watch it if you don't like it" because they advertise those videos on their page and try to use the fanbase they've created through their regular content to get more exposure to those side projects.
Seriously? "Evil marketing made me watch things I didn't want, I have no free will and it's everyone's fault but mine!" What you want, a law forbidding people to advertise their own work if it's shitty?

Grow the fuck up.

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