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The Fire Emblem Thread

Tigranes

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Map 26 is badly designed, but there is a clear strategy - set yourself up before you drop its shields the very first time, and then pound it to absolute zero, no revive stones left. The End.

The thing about these kinds of strat games is that you think [next difficulty tier] is complete nonsense, but you go through learning new tricks, and you look back and can't imagine how you ever played in the [current tier]. But nothing wrong with trying the other great games instead of course.
 

gamerguy

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yeah, I was thinking about that... even if you just kill a whole life, they can't heal that back.

That's a lot of unecessary turns though... my units are all tuned to mitigation over damage, and I was still able to do enough damage to get past 2/4 shields.

I was only on hard though, your mileage may vary.
 

Tigranes

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What unnecessary turns? I mean killing it outright in one turn (which I think is 4 health bars?) - that was the simplest solution for me on Maddening, ultimately. So you'd spend 3 turns or so to kill the initial lieutenants, then when the shields drop, finish the entire battle there. The longer this battle goes the worse it gets because the map is so big when you have to go around, and they keep spawning crap on the four corners.

But mileage varies hugely based on your party. Somebody is doing 7 Dual Assist chips as the only way to break the highly armoured boss, somebody's doing a Elrika Halberdier Brave Lance 100+ damage hit, etc.
 

gamerguy

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I just mean you have to spend more rounds killing all 4 dark emblems to get that small window. You're spread out running around, more adds from longer game. Then again, big dick damage.

I will defer to you though, cause I couldn't even get this far on maddening.
 

Tigranes

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Let us know how you get on in the next whatever (a GBA FE?)

I will probably start Vestaria 2 soon, though its opening didn't impress me after V1. (The screenshot above)
 

gamerguy

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Let us know how you get on in the next whatever (a GBA FE?)

I will probably start Vestaria 2 soon, though its opening didn't impress me after V1. (The screenshot above)

I will. I like the emblems. They really open up character development options... but I'm interested in trying a FE without them.
 

Puukko

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Damn, granny.

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I'm still continuing my maddening playthrough after a brief break. Constantly starved for gold, and my dog farm refuses to shit out silver. The paralogues never stop.
 

gamerguy

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started the blazing blade (i think)... this looks familiar from years ago... I dig the sprites and animation


weapon triangle is different... seems like it changes hit/avo instead of the 'break' mechanic I know from engage
 

Puukko

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Veronica's (Heroes) paralogue was fun. Surprised how well I managed two split up my team (two teams of four on two sides with regular enemy reinforcements), both teams just worked really well on their own. Maps where you can only bring in eight units are definitely the toughest, you're bound to be losing important utility. To give an idea of the power levels at play, for the above map I opted not to bring in Byleth, who can dance for four adjacent allies at once while buffing. The actual dedicated dancer hasn’t seen any action since I recruited him (yeah, it's some new age hippie dude :decline:) since the power levels just make dancing far less useful.

I'm mixing up my pair ups a bit, Yunaca had Tiki for the longest time which worked for the most part but it was a bit awkward since it turned her from a two-range debuffer into a one-range tank when engaged so there was a bit of a mismatch there between her roles. I gave her Sigurd, and now with draconic hex and pass she can move for 11 damn tiles, through enemies to heavily debuff any target while gaining damage for every tile.

I have some pair ups that work really well, and the beauty of this game are all the build options. I could have some unit with some emblem perform some role really well while someone else might have that unit doing something else entirely yet getting similarly great results.

The MC with Lucina is a support god. She won't be the strongest damage dealer, but with Lucina she allows you to move a squad straight into enemy territory and survive. 90% chance to block the first hit on any adjacent ally, bonus avoidance on unit itself depending on nearby support ranks for nearly 200 avoidance, and backup attacks on any enemy within movement range rather than weapon range.

Warrior Panette with Ike can tank a lot on enemy turn and then sweep multiple afterwards. Wrath + upgraded killer axe can give her 100% crit (on top of her silly strength) to delete anything. If I had vantage on her she'd be a permanent untouchable enemy phase sweeper if set up correctly with missing health. Her main weakness is there's only one of her. I'm going to try and turn Saphir into something similar as a wyvern lord with Roy, no idea if that'll work.

Merrin with Corrin is a godly debuffer with very solid crit and avoidance. Can debuff and immobilize three enemies in a row as well as any any enemies adjacent to those for potentially ten(!) affected enemies at once. I don't know if I'll ever actually get the opportunity to pull that off.

Louis with Byleth (+geosphere) for constant defense buffs to everyone nearby. Dances four allies at once and gives them defense, or gives defense to everyone within two squares, and after every turn passively buffs adjacent units. Just drop him in the middle of action. He's actually not my tankiest unit despite being a general and his damage output is pitiful so this role suits him really well.

Chloe with Dimitri/Edelgard/Claude, solo roamer goddess. Fly in, solo any enemy from three tiles away if needed and be invulnerable afterwards. Ten levels ahead of everyone else. Now with upgraded brave lance to make her more useful when not engaged.

Kagetsu with Lyn, drop in shadow clones that turn the enemy retarded and make them ignore squishier units. Snorts speed like no tomorrow and dodges and crits consistently. Main weakness is those clones sometimes really like eating multiple 40-50% hits in a row.

Honorable mentions, Ivy+Soren and Citrine+Camilla as flying nuke waifus. Okay, they're not quite Lysithea tier, but these two are a mainstay since they double as healers. Ivy gains leech when engaged so she can be set up aggressively as long as she doesn't get doubled.

 

Tigranes

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Puukko

Wrath+Vantage critbot Panette can be replicated to some extent with Wyvern Kagetsu Roy, and other similarly high STR setups - I'm doing a Zelkov Ike Berserker atm, though less reliable.

Lucina bond support goes to 100% on a Martial Master. Combine this with Dual Support so Lucina doesn't get targeted, and you can suddenly just walk into anything and kill on enemy phase (just making sure to stick characters who can strike back effectively and don't get doubled.)

I am committed forever to Mystic Byleth for Thyrsus, but there's definitely other good uses. Sage Anna or Pandreo Byleth means you can smash something from ~5 tiles away, canter back out, get danced, do it again.

There's definitely a huge amount of options with the emblems. The brainrotting story and design is just inexplicable, but it's respectable that they added such a large new gameplay mechanic that works so well.
 

v1rus

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For whatever reason I decided to pick up Path of Radiance. My experience with Fire Emblem is limited at best, having 100%ed Sacred Stones a couple of times in the past, played a good deal of The Binding Blade (or was it the Blazing one?) and some Path of Radiance. For whatever reason, something about PoR screams cozy and comfy to me, so I decided to pick it up again, and I really am enjoying it. Chapter 9 or so for now, so plenty of time for the game to go to shit, but so far so good. Gonna do Radiant Dawn after it I guess.

Now, a question. I know Radiant Dawn has couple of "bonuses" on a new game plus run - and while I do enjoy the series, and will prolly enjoy the Radiant Dawn despite it being considered faulty at best, there is no way in hell I'm gonna play it twice. Will I be missing something if I just download a clear save file from the net, and run it as a new game+ on my first run? Because I'm def up for it.

OTOH, I'm kinda sad I wont be able to import my save file. I know the bonuses are meager at best,but I'm a sucker for save game import, and I'd like for my main team to receive bonuses in RD. Perhaps there is some kind of a save editor which will allow me to flag my imported save game as cleared RD save data? Any moar info bros?

Also, while I guess I get the design decision behind randomized lvl up stats (Making different characters viable in different playthroughs?), screw it. I just realized my Ike is like 3 str points behind average for his lvl. Me sad.
 

WhiteShark

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Also, while I guess I get the design decision behind randomized lvl up stats (Making different characters viable in different playthroughs?), screw it. I just realized my Ike is like 3 str points behind average for his lvl. Me sad.
This is exactly the reason I don't usually play FE. I'm not even afraid the game will become unwinnable, I just don't like it.
 

gamerguy

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don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good


if you can handle the worst story ever told, just pick up engage... it's really is quite good
 

Pocgels

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If you liked Path of Radiance for the atmosphere then really it's Radiant Dawn next.

If you find yourself liking the gameplay, then Engage, Conquest, or FE6.

Oh, and Bases>Growths. Don't worry about being behind a couple points on strength or whatever.
 

Sòren

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For whatever reason I decided to pick up Path of Radiance. My experience with Fire Emblem is limited at best, having 100%ed Sacred Stones a couple of times in the past, played a good deal of The Binding Blade (or was it the Blazing one?) and some Path of Radiance. For whatever reason, something about PoR screams cozy and comfy to me, so I decided to pick it up again, and I really am enjoying it. Chapter 9 or so for now, so plenty of time for the game to go to shit, but so far so good. Gonna do Radiant Dawn after it I guess.

Now, a question. I know Radiant Dawn has couple of "bonuses" on a new game plus run - and while I do enjoy the series, and will prolly enjoy the Radiant Dawn despite it being considered faulty at best, there is no way in hell I'm gonna play it twice. Will I be missing something if I just download a clear save file from the net, and run it as a new game+ on my first run? Because I'm def up for it.

OTOH, I'm kinda sad I wont be able to import my save file. I know the bonuses are meager at best,but I'm a sucker for save game import, and I'd like for my main team to receive bonuses in RD. Perhaps there is some kind of a save editor which will allow me to flag my imported save game as cleared RD save data? Any moar info bros?

Also, while I guess I get the design decision behind randomized lvl up stats (Making different characters viable in different playthroughs?), screw it. I just realized my Ike is like 3 str points behind average for his lvl. Me sad.

the boni aren't that relevant, if u are playing on normal, which is the only way u can start the game without importing a finished safe file - before starting Radiant Dawn, i did that and it was annoying. i enjoyed the game in the first couple of chapters, but it goes downhill with each chapter. due to splitting the chapters between three different armies (with around 40 chapters i believe?), it completely lacks the feel of progress that makes those games fun.
 

spekkio

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Totally agree on Radiant Dawn being shit. Liked PoR very much, but almost ragequit RD. And regretted not quiting after completing the game. :(
Play 4, 5 or GBA ones instead. DS ones aren't bad, esp. 12 (has unofficial ENG translation). Last "great" FE was IMO Valentia for 3DS.

More input on FE3-FE15 here:

https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/the-fire-emblem-thread.96492/page-37#post-7877601

Info on PoR to RD import bonuses (not worth the hassle):

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/932999-fire-emblem-radiant-dawn/41373240

*Edit: mixed up names of 1st and 2nd game :oops:
 
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Tigranes

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so i was bored and installed yuzu. is 3 houses any gud?

3H can be played ignoring almost all Hogwarts stuff. On Hard you can skip pretty much everything. On Maddening you could just do the cooking and maybe raise supports. That way you get access to some good buildporn & battles that are high quality.

Depends on what else you haven't played, though, I'd do GBAs or Berwick or VS1 first if you haven't done them.

I am also about to go through POR/RD for the first time, as I finally seem to have Dolphin stable...
 

v1rus

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For whatever reason I decided to pick up Path of Radiance. My experience with Fire Emblem is limited at best, having 100%ed Sacred Stones a couple of times in the past, played a good deal of The Binding Blade (or was it the Blazing one?) and some Path of Radiance. For whatever reason, something about PoR screams cozy and comfy to me, so I decided to pick it up again, and I really am enjoying it. Chapter 9 or so for now, so plenty of time for the game to go to shit, but so far so good. Gonna do Radiant Dawn after it I guess.

Now, a question. I know Radiant Dawn has couple of "bonuses" on a new game plus run - and while I do enjoy the series, and will prolly enjoy the Radiant Dawn despite it being considered faulty at best, there is no way in hell I'm gonna play it twice. Will I be missing something if I just download a clear save file from the net, and run it as a new game+ on my first run? Because I'm def up for it.

OTOH, I'm kinda sad I wont be able to import my save file. I know the bonuses are meager at best,but I'm a sucker for save game import, and I'd like for my main team to receive bonuses in RD. Perhaps there is some kind of a save editor which will allow me to flag my imported save game as cleared RD save data? Any moar info bros?

Also, while I guess I get the design decision behind randomized lvl up stats (Making different characters viable in different playthroughs?), screw it. I just realized my Ike is like 3 str points behind average for his lvl. Me sad.

the boni aren't that relevant, if u are playing on normal, which is the only way u can start the game without importing a finished safe file - before starting Radiant Dawn, i did that and it was annoying. i enjoyed the game in the first couple of chapters, but it goes downhill with each chapter. due to splitting the chapters between three different armies (with around 40 chapters i believe?), it completely lacks the feel of progress that makes those games fun.

I'm playing on hard (Western hard in case of PoR, kinda glad I found about maddening when I was on chapter 9, because I'd prolly go for that), and I'll also be playing RD on hard.
 

Tigranes

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POR/RD have that thing where in the US POR there is no Maddening, and then RD Hard is actually Maddening, no?
 

Reinhardt

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started 3 houses, picked princess, met my class... one question - why i'm teaching retards? it's because i'm new teacher?
 

Maxie

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started 3 houses, picked princess, met my class... one question - why i'm teaching retards? it's because i'm new teacher?
your teaching a sway of wholesome chungus anime personalities. cherish what you have, in about twenty hours you will routinely yeet through the monastery just doing the bare minimum to advance between maps and be spared this nonsense
 

Reinhardt

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too much running around doing nothing. tried side story, it's slightly better.
 

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