Community RPG Codex Invades Steam

[Infinitron]

Why is Jagged Alliance 2 not on the list?!

Something on Steam prevents it, the game page doesn't even have public reviews or anything

Correct.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/rpg_codex/curation/app/12370/

 

[Gozma]

Best thing about Neo Scavenger is that it feels post-apocalyptic but in the gameworld no discrete apocalypse ever happened AFAIK and it's just the Detroit area getting progressively shittier and more filled with ghosts

 

[Ninja Destroyer]

Too bad there are so many DOS era games missing on Steam. You can split hairs in four and discuss if Dark Souls should be on the list, but the lack of such titles as Ultima Underworld and many others classics. Seems to me Gog is a better platform for such feature. Still, Valve doesn't need to do anything but it will probably boost in lower or higher percentage the sales without doing anything.

 

[Jaesun]

Best thing about Neo Scavenger is that it feels post-apocalyptic but in the gameworld no discrete apocalypse ever happened AFAIK and it's just the Detroit area getting progressively shittier and more filled with ghosts

So it is a present day Detroit simulator?

 

[mindx2]

Best thing about Neo Scavenger is that it feels post-apocalyptic but in the gameworld no discrete apocalypse ever happened AFAIK and it's just the Detroit area getting progressively shittier and more filled with ghosts

So it is a present day Detroit simulator?

 

[Cowboy Moment]

We might as well put CoD and AC on the list ... I am pretty sure the things that qualify as being a RPG end up open to debate, heck like Mass Effect.

I still dont get why the Amazon Princess is not on the list, its a RPG with at least a mutually exclusive path, you even get a option of what gender and what class you play as ... it have more of a RPG that dark Souls.

Because they are all shit games we don't want to recommend to anyone? This is also why we recommend Alpha Protocol, but not Mass Effect. As a matter of fact, we're one of two curators visible on AP's store page, along with Bro Team amusingly enough.

 

[Jaedar]

Too bad there are so many DOS era games missing on Steam. You can split hairs in four and discuss if Dark Souls should be on the list, but the lack of such titles as Ultima Underworld and many others classics. Seems to me Gog is a better platform for such feature. Still, Valve doesn't need to do anything but it will probably boost in lower or higher percentage the sales without doing anything.

Gog does have a "list of good games" feature.

It should be colonized by the management.

 

[Drakron]

Because they are all shit games we don't want to recommend to anyone?

Yet Alpha Protocol is on that list, I would not recommend a Mass Effect clone either.

I could point out whats wrong, sure it have good things on it but plenty of bad things as well ... Mass Effect as much people want to complain about its both a design and technically sound game, even Mass Effect 2 is except I cannot in good faith call it a RPG.

I pointed those deliberate, if you have some kind of "leveling" mechanic it can be called a RPG, we have the conversation of "what is a RPG?" many times, especially back when RPGs were all the rage and marketing tried to slap it on any game that come close to being labeled as such on technicalities.

This is also why we recommend Alpha Protocol, but not Mass Effect. As a matter of fact, we're one of two curators visible on AP's store page, along with Bro Team amusingly enough.

No, the reason why is that are too many Obsidian fanboys on this site and too much BioWare hate ... Mass Effect is a fine game, Alpha Protocol is not, back on release we had many discussions about it with the fanboys trying to defend it as some kind of "unpolished gem" were the technical problems were just some of the issues of Alpha Protocol, Mass Effect suffered from being shat on because it was a BioWare game, as much BioWare certainly earned it doesnt change that Mass Effect is more worth playing that Alpha Protocol.

This isnt amusing enough, its just showing the blatant favoritism Obsidian gets on the Codex were they released THAT mess and its recommended because Obsidian.

 

[Infinitron]

This isnt amusing enough, its just showing the blatant favoritism Obsidian gets on the Codex were they released THAT mess and its recommended because Obsidian.

We don't deny this. To a certain extent Obsidian favoritism is a stated bias and a stated goal of the list: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/steam-curators.94322/page-4#post-3507416

However, DS3 and South Park will not be added.

 

[Jasede]

Hey, I like DS3!

(And no, it shouldn't be on the list.)

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Because they are all shit games we don't want to recommend to anyone?

Yet Alpha Protocol is on that list, I would not recommend a Mass Effect clone either.

I could point out whats wrong, sure it have good things on it but plenty of bad things as well ... Mass Effect as much people want to complain about its both a design and technically sound game, even Mass Effect 2 is except I cannot in good faith call it a RPG.

I pointed those deliberate, if you have some kind of "leveling" mechanic it can be called a RPG, we have the conversation of "what is a RPG?" many times, especially back when RPGs were all the rage and marketing tried to slap it on any game that come close to being labeled as such on technicalities.

This is also why we recommend Alpha Protocol, but not Mass Effect. As a matter of fact, we're one of two curators visible on AP's store page, along with Bro Team amusingly enough.

No, the reason why is that are too many Obsidian fanboys on this site and too much BioWare hate ... Mass Effect is a fine game, Alpha Protocol is not, back on release we had many discussions about it with the fanboys trying to defend it as some kind of "unpolished gem" were the technical problems were just some of the issues of Alpha Protocol, Mass Effect suffered from being shat on because it was a BioWare game, as much BioWare certainly earned it doesnt change that Mass Effect is more worth playing that Alpha Protocol.

This isnt amusing enough, its just showing the blatant favoritism Obsidian gets on the Codex were they released THAT mess and its recommended because Obsidian.

You won't get an argument from me about AP, as I haven't played it. People who like it say that it has a lot of well realized C&C and reactivity, and presumably it got on our Top70 list through these qualities (or maybe through Obsidian fanboyism). I have tried playing Mass Effect twice, and found it so painfully banalshitboring that I couldn't force myself to continue, and so I am against putting it on any list officially enforsed by the Codex.

To put it simply, though, you're sharing this forum with people who voted for AP and Dark Souls as their favourite RPGs. And so these games appear on the Steam recommended list. People like RPGs for different reasons. Some care about C&C and reactivity a lot, and they like AP because of it. Others like a sense of nonlinear exploration in a dangerous world with slow-paced melee combat, and like Dark Souls because of it, just like they liked Gothic. If this deeply bothers you, maybe you should look for a different forum that would represent your tastes better? This isn't a "GTFO if you don't like it", it's just that I don't really get what you expect to happen. Codexers at large have voted DS their 14th favourite RPG, but it cannot be on the list because Drakron personally disagrees?

FYI, I actually do agree that DS doesn't fit on the list, and said so in that thread as well; what is and isn't on the list doesn't bother me that much though, so long as it's not banal shit boring crap.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I know this will sound a bit crazy but maybe AP is recommended because people like it and there's no conspiracy to favor some games in place of others

 

[Drakron]

you're sharing this forum with people who voted for AP and Dark Souls as their favourite RPGs.

Sure and this is why I put Amazon Princess on the list, I am sure some people would like it as well ... and in a total serious way, Mass Effect, whatever one might think of BioWare.

I know this will sound a bit crazy but maybe AP is recommended because people like it and there's no conspiracy to favor some games in place of others

And maybe some people should get some fucking taste.

Whatever you might think of the game it was terrible, on load of a save it make enemies on the level to disapear ... it was what became known as a Obsidian game, a technical mess and by the look of things it never really had a very problematic development ... you want for me to pull this article?

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14001...ute-failure-of-production-says-anonymous-dev/

Because I just did.

 

[Infinitron]

WOW. Alpha Protocol was broken?? Who knew??

 

[Jaesun]

This just in: Fallout had shit combat. Film at 11.

 

[Drakron]

This just in: Fallout had shit combat. Film at 11.

i will fight u m8!!!!

 

[Clockwork Knight]

And maybe some people should get some fucking taste.

This is RPG Codex, the place you go to when you realize everything is shit. If the locals' opinions sound too pedestrian to your ears, you might just have defeated the internet. Time to self eject because nothing more can be gained here.

 

[Drakron]

Time to self eject because nothing more can be gained here.

 

[Jaesun]

This just in: Fallout had shit combat. Film at 11.

i will fight u m8!!!!

Fallout had a great combat system?

 

[Drakron]

Jesus, did you had to bring that tread up?

Fallout used GRUPS without ever saying that, GRUPS is a ... well its a established system even at that point and Fallout had good combat, it had terrible bad companion AI but its like relegating the entire system to the AI scripts, I suppose most people dumped companions and solo it, considering the game wasnt even attempting at being a party-based RPG that wasnt a problem, you could sure but wasnt really designed around it.

I say again, sure you can take NPCs as "party members" but you can also type by hitting your head on the keyboard ... just because you can, doesnt mean you should, mechanically there is nothing wrong with Fallout combat unless you are one of those balance faggots that believe a M-16 and a sling should be "balanced and equal useful" as fallout did tier weapons are armor so some stuff got obsolete, part control just sucked for many reasons (AI scripts, UI mainly) but you never at a point were you need a party member.

 

[Darth Roxor]

I know this will sound a bit crazy but maybe AP is recommended because people like it and there's no conspiracy to favor some games in place of others

tell that to infinitron

i guess jews always need to spearhead some conspiracy

 

[Jaedar]

Such recommended, so prestigious.

I see you added dark souls 2. I am disappoint.

 

[Jaesun]

"Offers more content than Dark Souls while being somewhat streamlined & less tight. Still a great game though, with the DLC creating a memorable endgame."

What is this shit doing on here?

 

[garren]

Banner Saga getting trashed in comments section, removal when?

 

[Infinitron]

The reception to Banner Saga on the Codex was decent, but also brief - it seems it was quickly forgotten. It's a shame that we never got around to reviewing it - that would have helped to solidify and clarify the "Codex consensus".

If anybody wants to volunteer, it's never too late.