Recommend me some RTS games?

[Twinkle]

Hostile Waters. Although it's hardly a generic RTS.

 

[MetalCraze]

Second Battlezone and Homeworlds. And maybe DoW1.
I liked RTS much a decade or so ago but now I can't recommend many of them because they don't do it for me anymore - however Battlezone and Homeworlds deserve a mention because they aren't typical RTS. Just ignore BZ2 - it was shit. BZ1 gets bonus points for its programmer now making patches for it. A fun first-person RTS with varied missions (RTS part was nerfed in BZ2)

 

[Carceri]

Give Dark Reign a go, you won't be disappointed. I haven't played the sequel so I'm only referring to the original.

 

[Darth Roxor]

C&C Red Alert 2 (+XP)

NO. Yuri's Revenge is Fallout 3 level retarded.

 

[Carlos' Bitch1]

I haven't played these games since Tiberian Sun. It wasn't a bad game as RTS's go.

What do the RTS nutters think of all the iterations after TS? Any decent games made?

 

[Paperclip]

Give Dark Reign a go, you won't be disappointed. I haven't played the sequel so I'm only referring to the original.

The sequel sucks.

 

[MetalCraze]

I haven't played these games since Tiberian Sun. It wasn't a bad game as RTS's go.

What do the RTS nutters think of all the iterations after TS? Any decent games made?

RA2 has a pretty good SP campaign, but AI is worse.
EBFD is OK, although not as good as previous Westwood's games.

All following sequels are awful.

 

[Destroid]

Sacrifice is pretty cool. As a bonus it has completely loopy art design.

 

[L'ennui]

Complete with sometimes eerie, atmospheric soundtrack. Sacrifice was pretty good.

 

[circ]

I've played the Homeworlds to death, so that's out. Playing some more of Tib Wars, and nothing about it feels like it was made in 2007, except maybe some fancy particle effects. I wouldn't mind an innovative RTS hybrid like Stronghold (the old SSI published one, not the new one).

 

[Paperclip]

Another one I'm currently replaying:

Constructor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AF_k_sjRkg

 

[L'ennui]

Rise of Nations? The risk-like campaigns were nice and the actual RTS gameplay is good too, with lots of nations to choose from and interest city-based expansion mechanics.

 

[circ]

Ya played that several times. And the expansion. And crappy sequel Rise of Legends.

 

[Carceri]

Give Dark Reign a go, you won't be disappointed. I haven't played the sequel so I'm only referring to the original.

The sequel sucks.

Surprise, surprise... Such a cruel fate sequels are destined to have!

 

[Havoc]

Original War.

 

[reaven]

How about Tzar ? I used to play it a lot. Not very popular.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Is there a widescreen or resolution mod for dark reign. I played the shit out of it when i was a kid and iirc correctly the resolution was 640x480. (unplayable on modern lcd's)

 

[1eyedking]

NO. Yuri's Revenge is Fallout 3 level retarded.

That much? Why?

Give Dark Reign a go, you won't be disappointed. I haven't played the sequel so I'm only referring to the original.

I second this. Dark Reign is worth a try, though nothing that'll blow your mind.

 

[fizzelopeguss]

You know, when i was a kid i used to remember those dirt cheap mags that had disks and i remember every other week i'd have a new demo disk FILLED with loads of new demos to quirky and arcane strategy games.

This was before i had a 3d accelerator so i used to live off playing 2d adventure and strategy titles.

3d killed the RTS star.

 

[1eyedking]

3d killed the RTS star.

Nah, that's like saying 3D killed graphic adventure games: we all know that genre killed itself out of stagnation. If anything 3D can be viewed as an opportunity.

The console crowd...now that killed RTS games.

 

[MetalCraze]

RTS games killed themselves through the lack of innovation. Console crowd has little to do with it - RTS are even less playable on consoles than shooters. Although EA did try to make that shitty Tiberium Wars fit in by slowing down everything to a turtle crawl so consoletards will have enough time to select units.

 

[Topher]

Starcraft 2 is quite amusing. Dawn of War was good too. The winter assult campaign for DoW1 is quite fun and criminally short. Homeworld series is a must-play. Some of the total war games were quite good. Personally I preferred Shogun, but YMMV. Dawn of war 2 was ok, even if highly overrated. I was not a fan of the World of Warcraft wannabe item drops and boss battles.

I'm playing it right now and the boss battles really aren't much fun.

 

[1eyedking]

RTS games killed themselves through the lack of innovation. Console crowd has little to do with it - RTS are even less playable on consoles than shooters. Although EA did try to make that shitty Tiberium Wars fit in by slowing down everything to a turtle crawl so consoletards will have enough time to select units.

"Console crowd" is an umbrella term for twitch-happy idiots who just like to see things exploding everywhere in a bloom-filled screen without any regard whatsoever for the actual mechanics and/or aesthetic approach of the game as long as it's got the shiniest graphics or the biggest hype.

You know, the fuckers who play Supreme Commander and understand fucking nothing about it's complete lack of artistic quality or interesting gameplay mechanics; or play screen savers such as WarCraft III's idiotic mods like DotA and Tower Defense (and even dumber derivatives such as Demigod). Or StarCraft II (when, you know, there's still the much better original StarCraft).

There's been plenty of innovation in the RTS field when compared to genres such as RPGs and FPSs that have been stuck in the same formula for about a decade. Take games like Majesty, DoW, Company of Heroes, Rise of Nations, Age of Empires III and WarCraft III for example. They all had something new and exciting that made them worth trying out.

Now try to name a game of another kind that introduced some cool & new mechanic (that weren't shitty like fake C&C, health regeneration, and the completely idiotic cover system) in the last 10 years or so (with the exception of Diablo perhaps, Operation Flashpoint and Battlefield 1942).

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

DoW1 introduced regenerating health in the form of overwatch. There you go.

 

[entertainer]

DoW, Company of Heroes, Age of Empires III

They all had something new and exciting

what

Now try to name a game of another kind that introduced some cool & new mechanic

Red Orchestra - rest weapon on any surface, Soldiers - cover and direct control system, Penumbra - interaction with objects

 

[SoupNazi]

Now try to name a game of another kind that introduced some cool & new mechanic (that weren't shitty like fake C&C, health regeneration, and the completely idiotic cover system) in the last 10 years or so (with the exception of Diablo perhaps, Operation Flashpoint and Battlefield 1942).

Half-Life 2 and the first use of physics as a game mechanic.

Oh uhm ... looks like I'm done.

 

[Darth Roxor]

NO. Yuri's Revenge is Fallout 3 level retarded.

That much? Why?

Starting with the time travelling back to dinosaurs, for instance. Then there's the level in Hollywood where you can rescue 'action movie actors' who are better at killing people than a level 3 SEAL. Another map where you're hired by Bill Gates to protect his company building. Hypnotised civilians saying 'Needs of the many are outweighed by the needs of the Yuri'. Mission on the moon with kosmonauts with jetpacks and lasers. Most units have new voices which are mostly stupid. Mummies come out of pyramids in the Egypt level. Soviets have the retardedly overpowered Boris who can take out tanks with a Kalashnikov and call airstrikes on buildings. Mission briefings are also simply stupid. And I probably forgot to mention a lot of stuff here, as I remember my intelligence being constantly insulted while I was playing it.