Melcar
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Planescape torment.
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Emotional Vampire
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relootz
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PS:T is the best RPG ever made.
Any combatflaws are easily made up by its other brilliant parts.
And not enough equipment? What are u a moron? It has plenty of things but not all the Ph@T lOOT no.
I do agree that some things are too much combat based for example the nordom maze. Beating construct after construct. That is quite tiresome.
Any combatflaws are easily made up by its other brilliant parts.
And not enough equipment? What are u a moron? It has plenty of things but not all the Ph@T lOOT no.
I do agree that some things are too much combat based for example the nordom maze. Beating construct after construct. That is quite tiresome.
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You have next to no controls over your party members, the story and locations are linear as fuck, and there is too much text.
Sounds like a jRPG to me bro
Sounds like a jRPG to me bro
Clockwork Knight
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Hmm, some delicious butthurt in this thread.
PST is a jrpg (even magic works like in one, r00fles!). The fact that it doesn't look like final fantasy doesn't mean shit.
btw, stop with shit like "there's a lack of equipment, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER" or "the combat is shit, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER", it's embarrassing. Just because YOU want to believe it doesn't matter (lol larpers), doesn't make it true. The flaws are there and THEY SUCK DONKEY BALLS. YOU CAN'T JUST IGNORE THE SHIT. IT STINKS.
That's saying a lot, I guess
PST is a jrpg (even magic works like in one, r00fles!). The fact that it doesn't look like final fantasy doesn't mean shit.
btw, stop with shit like "there's a lack of equipment, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER" or "the combat is shit, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER", it's embarrassing. Just because YOU want to believe it doesn't matter (lol larpers), doesn't make it true. The flaws are there and THEY SUCK DONKEY BALLS. YOU CAN'T JUST IGNORE THE SHIT. IT STINKS.
Lesifoere said:
That's saying a lot, I guess
Hey Clockwork Knight, could you provide me with examples on the much better RPGs that obviously exist according to you? In the same vein, why the fuck do you game?
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Grunker said:
I wasn't talking about that. You're free to like your jrpg and believe it's the best game ever (opinion). (Besides, since every game has flaws, any game I point out would get holes poked in by codexia cultists chanting "LOLOLOL PST IS SEX")
I was just amused by how you people ignore shit like shit combat and no variety of equipment for characters(someone even said "Sigil. Planes" as justification. wtf), both factors staples of jrpgs.
So, if I don't think PST is perfection, I have no reason to game
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It's up there.
edit: ...aaaaaand now it's not. The browser is hiccuping on me, but I thought it was just for me.
edit2: WTF IT CAME BACK
It's up there.
edit: ...aaaaaand now it's not. The browser is hiccuping on me, but I thought it was just for me.
edit2: WTF IT CAME BACK
Black Cat
Magister
Planescape is good for what it is, nya.
Sorry, but someone had to do it. Now, like, the problem is that whatever it is, it isn't a good role playing game at all: Every other day i play an MMO with better combat mechanics and more challenging battles than anything Torment has to offer, and with a much better character system than Torment's to boot. And when you are defeated by an MMO you suck as a role playing game, sorry.
Torment's setting is cool, yay, and it's very atmospheric. So what? If having a cool, immersive, and atmospheric setting is the mark of a role playing game then Pathologic, The Void, and some thingie or another of Kyoto are the best role playing games, like, ever. Or evar, nya.
Torment's plot is good for a game, yay, and somewhat interesting, i guess. So what? If having a good plot is the mark of a role playing game then EVER17 is the best role playing game EVAR!!1! And it has more choices and consequences than Torment, too. But then even the lesser type of Otome games have more meaningful choices than Torment, and usually they get better gameplay to boot.
So stop the bleeping idiocy. Torment sucks as a role playing game: It lacks in the exploration, combat, character development, and, like, most other thingies. Go play real role playing games with dungeons and parties and riddles and monsters and stuffy stuff, then talk about what is and isn't a role playing game, nya.
Ninja Edit: You bloody larpers!
Sorry, but someone had to do it. Now, like, the problem is that whatever it is, it isn't a good role playing game at all: Every other day i play an MMO with better combat mechanics and more challenging battles than anything Torment has to offer, and with a much better character system than Torment's to boot. And when you are defeated by an MMO you suck as a role playing game, sorry.
Torment's setting is cool, yay, and it's very atmospheric. So what? If having a cool, immersive, and atmospheric setting is the mark of a role playing game then Pathologic, The Void, and some thingie or another of Kyoto are the best role playing games, like, ever. Or evar, nya.
Torment's plot is good for a game, yay, and somewhat interesting, i guess. So what? If having a good plot is the mark of a role playing game then EVER17 is the best role playing game EVAR!!1! And it has more choices and consequences than Torment, too. But then even the lesser type of Otome games have more meaningful choices than Torment, and usually they get better gameplay to boot.
So stop the bleeping idiocy. Torment sucks as a role playing game: It lacks in the exploration, combat, character development, and, like, most other thingies. Go play real role playing games with dungeons and parties and riddles and monsters and stuffy stuff, then talk about what is and isn't a role playing game, nya.
Ninja Edit: You bloody larpers!
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borrowing terms from text analysis (I have no idea what it's called in english, so there'll be lots of direct translations that will most likely suck ass) I'd say that Torments "textual" structure is much like a jRPG, and that's where most of the comparisons come from. The form (the basic framework and rules, like the linearity and "no control over your NPC's" as EV put it) is comparable in many aspects.
"ideationally" is where it mostly differs. The ideas that are brought forth by the "text" is in no way comparable to any jRPG I have ever played. I'm sure that if anyone bothered with it, they'd find that all of Avellones works are quite unique among games, in this aspect. Propositions and presuppositions both on macro and micro level are probably more consistent than in other games.
I'm not sure how to analyse the game from a "interpersonal" viewpoint, but it would surely point the same way.
"ideationally" is where it mostly differs. The ideas that are brought forth by the "text" is in no way comparable to any jRPG I have ever played. I'm sure that if anyone bothered with it, they'd find that all of Avellones works are quite unique among games, in this aspect. Propositions and presuppositions both on macro and micro level are probably more consistent than in other games.
I'm not sure how to analyse the game from a "interpersonal" viewpoint, but it would surely point the same way.
Cool with posts that hides from time to time.
Aaaanyways: Planescape is a mixed bag like almost any RPG out there. The things it does well are, however, done extremely well. The downsides aren't that big IMHO, and it certainly deserves its "THREEKINGS"-status here on the codex.
Still don't get the jRPG thing though, please explain. Slowly...
Aaaanyways: Planescape is a mixed bag like almost any RPG out there. The things it does well are, however, done extremely well. The downsides aren't that big IMHO, and it certainly deserves its "THREEKINGS"-status here on the codex.
Still don't get the jRPG thing though, please explain. Slowly...
I never said it was perfect CK. I said it was the best. You disputed that, thereby indicating there's something even better. I get that it's miles more hilarious to call me a fanboy, but it makes you seem... stupid :D
That is, when you avoid a confrontation in favor of imagelinking lame pictures.
Plus, I honestly would like to play the aforementioned better games if they excist.
That is, when you avoid a confrontation in favor of imagelinking lame pictures.
Plus, I honestly would like to play the aforementioned better games if they excist.
Clockwork Knight
Arcane
You were supposed to be raging
why aren't you raging
I'll never get the hang of this "trollan" thing
Exit, pursued by a bear
why aren't you raging
I'll never get the hang of this "trollan" thing
Exit, pursued by a bear
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CK is seriously phasing in and out man. Guess even the database noticed how big of a faggot you are and is trying to get rid of your posts
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There, should be better now.
Maybe even the database is a raging fanboy
what does this mean, then
EV said:
Maybe even the database is a raging fanboy
Grunker said:
what does this mean, then
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Derper said:
I blame my future edits. The database just doesn't care anymore, and kicks me out at the slightest sign of a paradox
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