by the way, Mongols show up around 1260 right? i got some 20 years before they show up then..
Much better. All I had to do was give away most of my duchies (to bishops, which was probably a mistake in hindsight, but it seemed like such a good idea at the time). Now to stomp that Galich(which will take a while.... ) and then maybe claim some revenge on Poland.
by the way, Mongols show up around 1260 right? i got some 20 years before they show up then..
1260? Did none of them come before 1224? If so I doubt you will see mongols other than Timurids...
One more thing, do you play mutant version & if yes, have you fixed the mongol event, and what version is your CK2? If you played mutant & haven't fixed mongol they won't come
Well, being a tyrant king ain't that useful anyway, since you can't really hold more stuff than your demesne allows, unless you want thieves guilds and other stuff popping up everywhere.
Dunno if it ever happened to you, but the golden horde just got roflstomped by the Ilkhanate in my game, meaning their first invasion is stuck at -68% and they don't own a single county anywhere. Thought that was nigh impossible with their doomstacks but apparently they were able to hold it off.
Well, being a tyrant king ain't that useful anyway, since you can't really hold more stuff than your demesne allows, unless you want thieves guilds and other stuff popping up everywhere.
Actually, I am pondering over trying a game of Having No Vassals Whatsoever. Revoke all titles and screw the out of bounds demesne penalty, there are no vassals to offend.
If only that fucker would stop betraying our betrothal so my heir can get the super stats needed to destroy all opposition.
Yes, the question becomes whether it is still possible to generate income through alternative chicanery and manipulation while at 0% demesne efficiency. Because if you can still function at 0%, then the sky's the limit from there.Going over your limit also gives you a penalty to income from every province due to poor taxation. If you go far over the limit you're going to be sitting on an income very close to 0.
The main problem with going over the demesne limits is not actually the penalties, but the event spam. I once tried to rule England all by my self, but I gave up when I'd get several events per game week about shit going wrong due to me not being able to properly govern everything. This made the game completely unplayable.
- Collect tax tithe (not sure)
- Marriage (Maximize potential by going elective & use plots to eliminate spouse)
- Spymaster spy network (is it even... possible with no vassal to spy on?)
- Ransom prisoner (I think you'll lose in overall because of army upkeep)
I'm theorycrafting here, but it seems like the best 0% income strategy with a large realm is to keep banishing your wealthy mayors and bishops, thereby confiscating their fortunes. The 0% efficiency is applied only to your taxation as their liege, right? I.e., they're still getting income; they're just not passing it on.