Vault Dweller
Commissar, Red Star Studio
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Gromnir's not-so-unique arguing style is based on ignoring facts and any attempts to explain and inform him about said facts.
Examples please. And no vague reference and general statements, please, if that wouldn't ruin your style, of course.Gromnir said:he gets handed his arse when he talks issues
Grok said:I will say this...making that initial post on April Fool's Day was a terrible idea! What was I thinking? Unfortunately, I wasn't even paying attention to the date. Next time I'll make that post on St. Patty's Day...
Lots of interesting speculation on the board, but keep in mind that's all it is -- speculation.
I'd love to reveal more details about a number of the projects we have in the works, but we simply cannot at the moment. Overall, I think we'll have some very exciting announcements in 2004.
Specific response to Waverly. I'm not really sure what you were trying to say in your post. You seemed to suggest we don't understand what the D&D franchise is about and you couldn't be further from the truth.
Secondly, you seem to suggest that discussing potential projects and recognized licenses in a conversational tone on an appropriate messageboard is a bad thing...again, I couldn't disagree more. I think our Atari forum is a perfect place to get in touch with fans of our various games. And, I suspect most here would agree that they enjoy these kinds of conversations.
If I were to reveal dates, developers, times, features, e.g., an actual announcement about an upcoming title, I would agree that information is better left to a product announcement, but that isn't my goal here.
And frankly, I think it's ridiculous to suggest all of our titles are bad, which is why I posted in the first place -- we've got some fantastic titles from some fantastic development teams.
Well, now that we're into the working week, we've had a chance to check with that very same Atari PR rep, Brandon Smith, as to just what's going on. As it stands right now, neither title has been officially announced. Rather, the point of his post was to say that Atari owns the rights to both of these franchises (and all new Dungeons & Dragons videogames for that matter), and has no intention to abandon either of them. In other words, even if Baldur's Gate III is not in active development right now, Atari has every intention of producing another Baldur's Gate title for the PC. Further, they know very well that another BG title has big shoes to fill, given the glowing reception that the first two games received from both critics and players. Atari wants to do right by the series.
Can we say that either Baldur's Gate III or Neverwinter Nights II are definitely, officially coming? Not at this time. But Atari knows very well the value of both franchises, and intends to release further PC titles for both. As for possible developers, it looks like much-loved BioWare is not a given for either (possible) title, though whether BioWare ends up being involved or not, Atari also assured us that new Baldur's Gate or Neverwinter Nights titles would get the attention of a top-level developer.
While none of this is the solid announcement we want for either game, it's reassuring news for fans of the franchises, and for PC RPG titles in general. Look for more updates just as soon as we get them.
Dhruin said:Anyway, I have to go do the sorts of things geeks with too much time on their hands do.
Vault Dweller said:Examples please. And no vague reference and general statements, please, if that wouldn't ruin your style, of course.Gromnir said:he gets handed his arse when he talks issues
What are you talking about it? I never stay on topic? Posts "around these parts" are mostly "you are a jerk"? That's coming from a person who disregards any arguments and facts and keeps repeating his nonsense no matter what.Gromnir said:hypocrisy, thy name is vd. you is the fella that never wants to stay on topic... wanna just get to the infantile and generalized "you are a jerk," crap that represents the majority of posts 'round these parts.
You've made some claims, and in the best traditions of this site, I want you to back them up, which is something you've rarely done before.then we wonders why you suddenly want in-depth analysis
Gromnir, once again, you are twisting the facts. The first announcement was not that Atari would be doing some dnd games in the future, but that they have new NWN in the works and would make two big announcements at E3. Hopefully, you do realize that announcements are made only when games are already in development and there is something to show. Later Grok named these projects, so yeah, it was very similar. I said it to you before, yet you brought it up again claiming that you pointed something out. What? Where is the reply where you proved to me or anybody else who's paying attention that my parallel was wrong?nevertheless, just look back in this thread. first we point out your clearly feeble attempt to draw parallels 'tween announcement that atari would be doing d&d games in the near future and the revelation that bg3 and nwn2 was currently in development.
Once again, where? Your exact reply wasyou then note that nwn2 and bg2 was the OBVIOUS games referenced by grok. HA! Gromnir points out the ludicrous nature of that statement, and now all you wants to do is talk 'bout Gromnir being a jerk or his misuse of the reply/quote function.
Big step? What big step? Are you an idiot? (that's a rhetorical question, btw). IGN didn't quote Grok, and just posted their own interpretations of the conversation assuming the conversation actually took place. Here is what Grok had to say about this:is interesting to note how grok has taken a big step back from his statement on the atari boards a couple days ago... ain't it?
Gromnir said:grok seems to have done a bit of back stepping. in a recent conversation with ign, grok noted that he weren't trying to announce bg3 or nwn2 with his stupid april fools post, and in fact noted that no official announcement had been made concerning those titles
Apparently, understanding isn't Gromnir's strongest point.Grok said:Gromnir -- You simply misunderstood what I wrote. When asked to clarify, I did. It can't be that hard to understand
Voss said:Seven9 said:It's your writing style that makes my head hurt, not your content (although it's borderline). To be honest, I prefer V's grade 3 style grammar (no offense V).
Which V?
Seven9 said:How many hours did you spend proof reading that one line to makesure that there weren't any typos.
Psilon said:Seven9 said:How many hours did you spend proof reading that one line to makesure that there weren't any typos.
Probably more time than you spent.