Master of Orion Remake ? :O

[SCO]

New article on Politically Correct Gamer:
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No tactical combat.

 

[hoverdog]

told you so.

 

[ArchAngel]

WTF? Another idiots making a space 4x game and thinking people don't really play those for tactical battles. Only reason many might not have played them in MoO2 was because it was both broken and too slow there.

Games like Birth of the Federation or Sword of the Stars showed you can have good and fun tactical battles.... AAAAA!

I would even take Endless Space battles over no battles.

 

[Jeff Graw]

New article on Politically Correct Gamer:
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No tactical combat.

He didn't actually say that, only that he saw it wasteful to "deep dive" into tactical combat given what their market research says. I would be very surprised if the MoO reboot came out without any kind of tactical combat, and to be honest the strategic layer is more important.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

I enjoy watching the AIs duke it out in tactical combat anyway.

It's not dead to me yet.

 

[whatevername]

If I let the AI handle auto combat, I lose 75% of the fleet instead of flawless victory.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

If I let the AI handle auto combat, I lose 75% of the fleet instead of flawless victory.

I always pick on races weaker than mine.

 

[baturinsky]

If I let the AI handle auto combat, I lose 75% of the fleet instead of flawless victory.

Because tactical combat in MoO2 is broken

 

[Space Satan]

Asked devs. They said that they are not cutting tactical battles from the game.

 

[Curious_Tongue]

Then what the fuck do they mean by "refocused gameplay"?

 

[Malakal]

Then what the fuck do they mean by "refocused gameplay"?

Maybe less building buildings on 70 planets every turn.

 

[JudasIscariot]

Then what the fuck do they mean by "refocused gameplay"?

I'd like to know this too. Sounds ominous in the context of a remake, imo.

 

[Perkel]

"Wait and see"

 

[Absalom]

P sure whatevername and Malakal should settle their differences in a MP game of MoO2; to be posted on the playground of course.

Game looks better than expected except for the bullshit. Game devs should wait until a game actually has a MP scene before devoting effort to it.

 

[Anthony Davis]

New article on Politically Correct Gamer:
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No tactical combat.

While in the end, that may be true, that's not actually what he said.

He said that "deep diving" and focusing on tactical combat and ship customization is not an efficient use of resources because only 10% of the people used those features.

Still might be the case though.


If they ditch those two features, I'm not buying it.

 

[Zero Credibility]

10%? Where the hell did he pull that number from? I mean, I'm sure there are people that didn't play MoO2 with the tactical combat and ship customisation on, but I'm also pretty sure they are a minority considering how much this added to the game.

 

[Anthony Davis]

10%? Where the hell did he pull that number from? I mean, I'm sure there are people that didn't play MoO2 with the tactical combat and ship customisation on, but I'm also pretty sure they are a minority considering how much this added to the game.

The more I reread it, the more angry I get.

He probably made it up - like most statistics.

 

[Destroid]

I'm sure most people turned it on, but isn't tactical combat turned off by default in MoO2?

Also, also this MoO2 talk made me go play it again and I didn't have much fun, definitely have a strong preference for MoO1 at this stage.

 

[SCO]

Then what the fuck do they mean by "refocused gameplay"?

Maybe less building buildings on 70 planets every turn.

Are they remaking MOO1 or 2? It's Thiaf all over again.

 

[TigerKnee]

I didn't really enjoy the ship building in both games as much as I think I should, but that seems to me that I might be bad at it - it's a bit too freeform but with no assistance whatsoever in-game on what the optimal builds are, so you gotta go online to fan forums and scavenge all their ship plans and basic concepts like e.g tiny Laser ships, medium Missile boats, Large lasers etc.

Same with its combat.

That being said, having tactical combat + ship-building feels somewhat tied in the series identity so the better option would be to make it better rather than removing them, but I don't have any idea how to achieve that.

 

[Destroid]

Some games have used more restricted 'slotting' systems (sword of the stars) or hard counters (galciv2). I'm not a fan of either, although I agree that the freeform soft counter system in MoO does leave you reaching for a spreadsheet if you want to actually optimise.

 

[Grotesque]

I have more faith in M.O.R.E. even if now looks cheap as hell than this remake

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Then what the fuck do they mean by "refocused gameplay"?

I'd like to know this too. Sounds ominous in the context of a remake, imo.

It's like a mobster saying he's going legit.

 

[ArchAngel]

I have more faith in M.O.R.E. even if now looks cheap as hell than this remake

Well MORE seems to be in endless development hell and it is progressing super slowly. The new MoO will probably be released before.

 

[Galdred]

Even in multiplayer, most people do play the tactical battles. The thing is MOO was designed/balanced with the tactical battles in mind, otherwise, many research options make little sense.
Creative is a waste of 8 racial points. I didn't play multiplayer much, but if I remember, the consensus was not to take it (while unification + tolerant was considered broken).