1eyedking Japanese roleplaying games are...

[BearBomber]

JRPG FOLKS:

Yes, this is real RPG, from Japan. I've heard it kick ass.

Let's Play thread. Now.

It's pen&paper.

 

[El Geecho]

This is the official website for MAID. It looks interesting, but I don't think I'm the right GM to actually run a game like this.

 

[Lurkar]

I've yet to play Maid RPG myself, but from what I've heard, it's basically the most un-serious tabletop game in existence. The whole point is pretty much to just dick around and be lighthearted.

Which, granted, is pretty much the polar opposite of what most tabletop gamers in the west want.

Also, the character creation for it is awesome if you do it the proper, "every goddamn thing is random" way.

 

[Kaanyrvhok]

There are people at my job that are older than 25 and still like JRPGs. One guy I talk to a lot at lunch would bring his Lost Odysee book and talk about the game. While talking about combat he mentioned stealing and I almost spit up my liquor. I said "wait a minute there is still 'in combat theft in JRPGs'?". You can steal in combat but not out of combat??

I borrowed a guys PSP at lunch to test out the FF 7 prequal Crisis Core. I spent 20 minutes shooting rockets with a pistol and fighting the god of Dragons by myself that some skinny punk in a suit summoned just to be a dick. And people say FO 3 lacks realism.

 

[BearBomber]

JRPG's are the botton of the Japaneese culture. Crap, for junkies addictet to crap. Something like western macho films like Vin Diesel ones. You guys should know top of the Japaneese culture. MECHA!

Don't waste your life playing JRPG, or B(ioware)RPG.

Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: Deep characters, complicated plot, emotional dialogues.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan:Giantic robots!
Khitan General: That is Awesome.

 

[Korgan]

Instead of preparing for a history exam I have in 10 hours, I will now proceed to write porn about a Paladin of Kamina accidentally drilling a hole to Faerun in the fabric of the universe with his Heaven Piercer +5 and raping a High Priestess of Shar immediately upon arrival with his Heaven Piercer +5.

 

[mondblut]

Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: Deep characters, complicated plot, emotional dialogues.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan:Giantic robots!
Khitan General: That is Awesome.

I don't know nor care what "mecha" is, but giantic robots ARE better than "deep characters and emotional dialogues". More entertaining, anyway.

Hm, a certain professional once told me a squad tactics game about World War One-aged steam-powered giant mechs with dreadnought-style turrets, yperite tank-launching catapults, zeppelins and other shit like that would be immensely popular in Japan. No manga bullshit, just stylistically honest to death crudely armored walking machines, Bolshevik aesthetics and stuff. Is that true?

 

[Prosthetic Brain]

Tales of Vesperia seems alright but I haven't decided if I can bring myself to accept it's hardcore cute anime look. I could mention a few oldies that I thought were good but I would probably be denounced as a witch.

Is it even remotely like Tales of Symphonia? Because ToS is like a crash-course on the reasons why JRPGs suck so much, as well as into designing an overall shitty and pretentious game.

I never owned a Game Cube so I have no idea. The reasons I'm thinking about getting Vesperia when the price drops (You think I'm going to pay $60 for Yet Another JRPG?) is because of the supposedly great party interaction, the battle system and overworld, the interesting looking towns, big bosses, and the beautiful hand drawn visual style that I love and hate. A ton of party interactions with a bunch of dialog is great if the dialog is well written and appropriate for the setting - ToV seems to be going for lighthearted and funny. I wish they would let you change the voice acting to Japanese, though. At least Lost Odyssey let you do that which made the game more bearable (Then again, from what I've seen [Heard?] the English actors in ToV are leaps ahead of those amateur hacks that worked on Odyssey).

Concerning your signature, Street Fighter not only contained those choices, but also choices on which class of fighter you wanted to be, how to play them tactics wise, and what color costume you wore. In addition, it featured a bevvy of multiple endings. Sadly, there was no Zangief diplomacy, and so it could never rise to true RPG status, but it does deserve respect for how it helped propel the genre forward.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Khitan General: We have won again. This is good! But what is best in life?
Khitan Warrior: Deep characters, complicated plot, emotional dialogues.
Khitan General: Wrong! Conan, what is best in life?
Conan:Giantic robots!
Khitan General: That is Awesome.

I don't know nor care what "mecha" is, but giantic robots ARE better than "deep characters and emotional dialogues". More entertaining, anyway.

Hm, a certain professional once told me a squad tactics game about World War One-aged steam-powered giant mechs with dreadnought-style turrets, yperite tank-launching catapults, zeppelins and other shit like that would be immensely popular in Japan. No manga bullshit, just stylistically honest to death crudely armored walking machines, Bolshevik aesthetics and stuff. Is that true?

Yep. For example, the turn-based the Front Mission franchise (it's WW2 though, but then again Japanese have a massive hard-on for Germans).

Speaking of Mecha games, Armored Core 4 Answer is OH GOD ITS HEAVAN. Tons of customization, death and destruction, fights against stage-sized giant weapons, high-speed combat with lots of skill required, challenging (downright annoying occasionally) gameplay and even CHOICES AND CONSEQUENCES.

I never owned a Game Cube so I have no idea. The reasons I'm thinking about getting Vesperia when the price drops (You think I'm going to pay $60 for Yet Another JRPG?) is because of the supposedly great party interaction, the battle system and overworld, the interesting looking towns, big bosses, and the beautiful hand drawn visual style that I love and hate. A ton of party interactions with a bunch of dialog is great if the dialog is well written and appropriate for the setting - ToV seems to be going for lighthearted and funny. I wish they would let you change the voice acting to Japanese, though. At least Lost Odyssey let you do that which made the game more bearable (Then again, from what I've seen [Heard?] the English actors in ToV are leaps ahead of those amateur hacks that worked on Odyssey).

Never trust the Tales fandom. No idea how Vesperia is, but even though the games have talented voice actors, everything else in them is shit (and the massive amounts of dialogue are mind-rapingly bad). Also, the graphics in Vesperia aren't hand-drawn.

Concerning your signature, Street Fighter not only contained those choices, but also choices on which class of fighter you wanted to be, how to play them tactics wise, and what color costume you wore. In addition, it featured a bevvy of multiple endings. Sadly, there was no Zangief diplomacy, and so it could never rise to true RPG status, but it does deserve respect for how it helped propel the genre forward.

:honourblade:

 

[Prosthetic Brain]

Never trust the Tales fandom. No idea how Vesperia is, but even though the games have talented voice actors, everything else in them is shit (and the massive amounts of dialogue are mind-rapingly bad). Also, the graphics in Vesperia aren't hand-drawn.

I wouldn't touch any JRPG fandom with a ten foot pole. I'm basing things on videos and the reviews at IGN and GameSpy (Don't worry, I do avoid them when it comes to AAA Western titles and Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest). Saying everything else in Tales is shit is kind of harsh. I take it you're not a fan of the Tales style combat?

I know the graphics are not hand drawn. I meant to say that it has "a beautiful hand drawn look to it, even though it's cell shaded."

Also, I refuse to believe there has ever been a talented voice actor for a Japanese to English game. Saying Vesperia is better in this department than Odyssey is not much of an accomplishment. Hearing a dozen puppies cry out as they die of hunger would be less gut-wrenching than listening to the spoken English dialog of Lost Odyssey.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Never trust the Tales fandom. No idea how Vesperia is, but even though the games have talented voice actors, everything else in them is shit (and the massive amounts of dialogue are mind-rapingly bad). Also, the graphics in Vesperia aren't hand-drawn.

I wouldn't touch any JRPG fandom with a ten foot pole. I'm basing things on videos and the reviews at IGN and GameSpy (Don't worry, I do avoid them when it comes to AAA Western titles and Final Fantasy/Dragon Quest). Saying everything else in Tales is shit is kind of harsh. I take it you're not a fan of the Tales style combat?

I know the graphics are not hand drawn. I meant to say that it has "a beautiful hand drawn look to it, even though it's cell shaded."

Also, I refuse to believe there has ever been a talented voice actor for a Japanese to English game. Saying Vesperia is better in this department than Odyssey is not much of an accomplishment. Hearing a dozen puppies cry out as they die of hunger would be less gut-wrenching than listening to the spoken English dialog of Lost Odyssey.

The thing is that Tales is a NAMCO game, and is thus entitled to mainstream blowjobs.

The combat is idiotic button-mashing without any depth or challenge. There's NOTHING to like about it.

The thing is that the Tales franchise tends to hire the likes of Jennifer Hale and other professionals. Which breaks my heart seeing them lowered to that.

 

[Prosthetic Brain]

 

[bonch]

Has anyone played Mother (first one)? They say it's great, but it seemed pretty boring to me, like all the others.

The appeal of Mother and especially Mother 2 is its oddball portrayal of America and parodies of the RPG genre. Otherwise, it's a standard Japanese grind, but the quirky elements make it stand out. I love any RPG that has hippie encounters.

 

[SuicideBunny]

Hm, a certain professional once told me a squad tactics game about World War One-aged steam-powered giant mechs with dreadnought-style turrets, yperite tank-launching catapults, zeppelins and other shit like that would be immensely popular in Japan. No manga bullshit, just stylistically honest to death crudely armored walking machines, Bolshevik aesthetics and stuff. Is that true?

world war 2 dieselpunk with nazis, in the vein of gear krieg would be even more popular, methinks.

[...]Front Mission franchise (it's WW2 though[...]

fail.