JA2 REMAKE

[mikaelis]

Just saw it in polish news site:

http://www.gry-online.pl/S013.asp?ID=53201

Basically, they are saying it is going to be exact remake of JA2, but with upgraded graphic. From the same company as JA online.

Good?, Bad?, Ugly?

Edit:

The name is supposed to be JA2: Reloaded and should hit the shelves next year

 

[Tycn]

It'll be mediocre at best and unplayable at worst given that we've been spoilt by 1.13. JA2 really doesn't seem like a good candidate for a graphics update.

 

[Grunker]

Are they going to include the changes from 1.13? Otherwise, why bother?

 

[zeitgeist]

Are they going to include the changes from 1.13? Otherwise, why bother?

Pretty much this. I doubt they will, but who knows.

 

[entertainer]

remake my ass, just some fugly 3d clone

 

[MetalCraze]

JA2 looks great visually. Only a complete faggot will want to bring it into a shitty 3D.
Also you need a real talent to clone something that huge of a game - it will be just some watered down shit.

 

[mindx2]

Jagged Alliance 2: Reloaded will therefore have a contemporary 3D graphic style in an isometric view, the user interface will be totally redesigned and an extensive tutorial will ease the player into the complex game rules system.

This is the part that worries me... oh and yeah without 1.13 why bother?

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

JA2 looks great visually. Only a complete faggot will want to bring it into a shitty 3D.

This, except that I'd like to see 3D avatars that show different weapons, armour and allow different boy types.

 

[Haba]

faggot shitty shit.

 

[deuxhero]

For the lazy. Seems to be doing this as an excuse to build the engine and make JA3 a mission pack sequel (which I don't really have an issue with).

At best it could at least have actual mod tools and not ruin anything (easily worth a purchase at something budget priced).


Though at worst it has the potential to suck really really bad.


Given the fact that two of the biggest death trap areas from what I recall (the 1st and 3rd screen) now have cover, I'm leaning to number 2.


Germans making it? Wonder what their countries censorship will do.

 

[entertainer]

now tell me this doesn't look crappy

 

[Serus]

now tell me this doesn't look crappy

Which one ? Because both of them looks mediocre to me. However the one on the right has cool character portraits.

 

[denizsi]

I think they will only update the displayed resolutions and artwork and keep everything else, still in 2D.

 

[zeitgeist]

The original JA2 had the GUI in the entire lower part of the screen not only because of better usability/readability for the main merc stats and controls, but because it doubled as the space for inventory and paperdolls. The tiny little UI thingies on the left in the new one make me think that either there won't be a paperdoll at all, or if there will be one, there'll be some huge inventory screen that takes you out of the tactical screen entirely and interrupts the flow of the game.

 

[MetalCraze]

3D screenshot looks terrible.

Really why bother if you have a shitty 3D engine?

 

[SoupNazi]

Well the UI is really bad on the remake, I'll admit. But graphically, both feel pretty much the same to me, with bonus points to the 3D screenshot for giving a hint of the equipment etc. actually showing up on your mercs.

On the other hand, the portraits and generally the UI looks so unfriendly and unfamiliar. Especially the portraits sort of distance the player from his mercs.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

The 3D screen looks pretty sharp and nice. I don't see any blurred stuff.

 

[MetalCraze]

The bad thing is that looks don't really matter. The gameplay will suck compared to JA2 (even without 1.13). It took Sir-Tech many years of getting experience to come up with something like JA2, it took Nival many years of getting experience to clone JA2 at an acceptable (even good) level.

I have absolutely no confidence in noname devs from some Shitburg. What they did to GUI and portraits already shows.

 

[SoupNazi]

Yeah I don't really expect the gameplay to be good as well and I'm not very optimistic, but as far as looks go, I just didn't think that 3D looked so bad.

 

[Burning Bridges]

The artistic touch of JA2 is totally missing. UI looks shit. What a stupid idea to kick out JA2s UI for moar 3D graphics.

On the other hand, given that they produce a decent engine, it may be that it will become playable in one way or the other. Perhaps they really make a sequel, or someone will be able to mod it.

In any case it's good news something happens at all.

I have absolutely no confidence in noname devs from some Shitburg. What they did to GUI and portraits already shows.

Yep.

 

[ricolikesrice]

Germans making it? Wonder what their countries censorship will do.

http://www.pcgames.de/Jagged-Allian...assikers-von-1999-in-unserer-Vorschau-768684/

Außerdem wurden bei den Charakteren einige Dinge entfernt, die recht rassistisch waren und heute möglicherweise anstoßend wirken.

roughly translated this wonderful sentence means:

Also they removed some things from the characters that were quite racist and might be considered insulting nowadays

... isnt that lovely ?

 

[Burning Bridges]

we are making a p.c. game

 

[deuxhero]

Germans making it? Wonder what their countries censorship will do.

http://www.pcgames.de/Jagged-Allian...assikers-von-1999-in-unserer-Vorschau-768684/

Außerdem wurden bei den Charakteren einige Dinge entfernt, die recht rassistisch waren und heute möglicherweise anstoßend wirken.

roughly translated this wonderful sentence means:

Also they removed some things from the characters that were quite racist and might be considered insulting nowadays

... isnt that lovely ?

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I'm thinking, but beyond the stealing Mexican accented airport guy, I can't think of anything that fits that.

Some of the mercs themself are categorized as bigoted and or nationalist (Steroid not working with Igor and Ivan, Bubba), but I still can't figure out anything. (It's not like Ivan is perpetually drinking Vodka)

 

[Burning Bridges]

There was a lot a p.c. person would dislike. If you don't live in a country like Germany you don't know how p.c. they are. They will remove a lot of what made JA2 worthwile.

 

[Haba]

There was a lot a p.c. person would dislike. If you don't live in a country like Germany you don't know how p.c. they are. They will remove a lot of what made JA2 worthwile.

They will remove the merc personalities altogether.