Isometric??

[Hazelnut]

What Roqua, dagorkan, Dhruin, Astro and Fez said.

You forgot me...

In before retardo.

First time I've ever posted that meme I think, but then the thread deserved it!

 

[Claw]

I think it should be second person only. We need more second person view games.

What, more games like Oblivion?

"You have found the Darkfanthom Caves, you should go inside."

 

[Ivy Mike]

What Roqua, dagorkan, Dhruin, Astro and Fez said.

You forgot me...

God dammit! Let's do it again:
What Hazelnut, Roqua, dagorkan, Dhruin, Astro and Fez said.

And now, ladies and gentlemen, I'm breaking my in-before-retardo virginity:
In before retardo!

 

[Severian Silk]

Scroll down a little here for a more relevant comparison from game UFO:AI.

Much better. I find that orthographic view is more intuitive for grid-based games like AoD.

 

[denizsi]

Me too, but the assholes just can't discuss it without exhibiting their affliction of oversensitive-crybaby syndrome. They are still stuck in the arguement in the first very post, neglecting/ignoring further suggestions. Hear me, ye old fucks?

 

[jeansberg]

There's nothing wrong with your idea. It's just that I don't care whether the game is viewed ortographically or perspectively.

 

[Roqua]

I understand and respect what you guys are saying and your opinion, but it's kind of like my wife asking me about what shower curtain to buy. I truly don't give a fuck and it angers me that anyone thinks I should.

Lets put this in perspective: lets say I logged on to the biggest gaming site there is, and I gave one of my rpg rants. I wouldn't be suprised at all if people reacted the same we have here on this issue. I get that reaction from people that post on sites called RPGcodex and RPGwatch (sites where they are supposed to care) when I post my correctness. So at best, even if you posted on sites called Game-perspectivescodex and game-perspectiveswatch, you could still expect to get push back on this trivial issue. The audience who cares about actually talking about it is minimal. Probably dwarfed by even furries or people who think they are really vampires communities.

The only advice I have for all three of you is to start a website and spread the awareness, and by this time next year there might be 6 or 7 members and you guys could all complain about how everyone sucks because they don't understand the true nature of perspectives and how every game gets it wrong.

 

[Claw]

Well, there are really vampire communities. Or at least communities of people who like to think of themselves as vampires. Or cyberpunks.

 

[Jasede]

Here are two screenshots of GearHead 2:




As you can see, the orthographic one looks much better.

The second one looks MUCH better to me, leaps and bounds. I really hope AoD will have an option to enable a fixed camera perspective.

 

[Severian Silk]

Here is a list of isometric games. Notice that AoD does not appear on it.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Random internet posters, a.k.a. Wikipedia, are never wrong, so you win again.

 

[Fez]

I just looked at it and AoD is on it though.

 

[Fez]

Random internet posters, a.k.a. Wikipedia, are never wrong, so you win again.

Looks like it isn't random posters VD. I looked into it some more to see what was going on. Look at the talk section for AoD.

Isometric

This game is not isometric. It should not be listed as such. SharkD 22:53, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't know, it's listed as isometric by most websites I've examined eg [1] [2] [3] and iirc the creator has referred to it as isometric before. However this might have been only with respect to the initial version of the game. -- Solberg 23:32, 19 May 2007 (UTC)Solberg

I started a thread in the AoD discussion forum. We're waiting for the developer to change the website. SharkD 00:33, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

It was Mikail (SharkD) who removed it from the list of isometric games. He's using his own edit to back himself up. Pretty fucking lame. That only goes to show how unreliable Wikipedia is for this sort of thing.

 

[Severian Silk]

I just looked at it and AoD is on it though.

Somebody added it to the list after I made my post.

It was Mikail (SharkD) who removed it from the list of isometric games. He's using his own edit to back himself up. Pretty fucking lame. That only goes to show how unreliable Wikipedia is for this sort of thing.

I did no such thing.

 

[Fez]

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =131518652

So I guess someone hacked your PC to make that edit changing the first sentence? You've been editing the article for a while now and obviously have been arguing and editing in favor of this point of view. Smugly liking to an unreliable Wikipedia list was bad enough without that added to it.

 

[Severian Silk]

Certainly, I edited the first sentence. However, nowhere is there a list in the first sentence (like you said).

Random internet posters, a.k.a. Wikipedia, are never wrong, so you win again.

My point is that if your opinion is so widespread among the professional gaming industry, at least one random Internet person would have listed a game with a similar camera system to yours.

 

[Claw]

So you're going to discount all other sources to rely on what a "random Internet person would have" done.

 

[Fez]

My point is that if your opinion is so widespread among the professional gaming industry, at least one random Internet person would have listed a game with a similar camera system to yours.

That is the most retarded idea you've had yet, Mikail.

Certainly, I edited the first sentence. However, nowhere is there a list in the first sentence (like you said).

These articles are what generates the list, you weasel. If it isn't marked as isometric then it doesn't show up on that other list. You've been editing it and arguing on the talk pages for it. Random editors there that could be yourself editing to push this or anyone else because the whole thing is untrustworthy and is a pathetic way to back up your claims. You may as well smugly quote your own forum posts here next time and claim that is your source of authority.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Being a simple country bumpkin, I naively define isometric as something that's neither first-person, nor second person (ok, I'm kidding about this one), nor third person, nor top-down view.

Well, Vault Dweller seems to be agreeing with me and he's one of the developers, so I win!

 

[Elhoim]

I know! Let´s call it 3/4 Top Down View!

 

[Severian Silk]

I know! Let´s call it 3/4 Top Down View!

I have no objections against that.

 

[Jasede]

Let's call it Shut The Fuck Up And Discuss More Important Things view.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Catchy name.

 

[Fez]

This kind of thing is why Wikipedia sucks.

 

[Elhoim]

Let's call it Shut The Fuck Up And Discuss More Important Things view.

The STFUADMIT view!