I went insane and am thinking

[dr. one]

This is my list now.

i´ve no experience with Antediluvian Secrets, but you seem to be missing TR Morrowind Map1: Telvannis which i thought it requires.

as for Sabregirl´s Ecology, as i said, i mainly dislike it for its added creatures which have very noticeable animation issues. it´s also supposed to add herds of guars etc around the map and one time i used it i ended up with overkill clusterfucks of them, but admittedly that might have been due to me handling modlist machinations improperly, though i tend to think otherwise.

and yeah, play as an ostrich is the best.

 

[SCO]

TR 1 is in TR 2, a updated buggy less version even. I only activated that one since 2 supposedly has no quests yet (and conflicts with moon spawn).
mlox is good to find these conflicts, though i found 3 false positives.

 

[dr. one]

aha, didn´t know that.

previously i forgot to add that imo Creatures X fixes the ecology quite sufficiently, making some creatures gradually less aggressive and potentially replacing an aggressive spawn with one of its non-aggressive-by-defaults. guars seem to be rarely aggressive as well.
the only problem i´ve found with the mod is that it adds some vermin in towns which can quite grow in numbers unless disposed of, so i edited that part out for my game.

 

[DraQ]

moon spawn

Wuts dat.


(Must be shit if conflicts with TR.)

 

[SCO]

It's old. A flying dwemer fortress/dungeon.

Anyway i was going to try Sobitur complete, but can't even get it to install in wrye smash without retarded workarounds (because some author thought it funny to pseudonym herself with a utf-8 glyph in the name - either/and wine, zip or python chokes on it. I suspect python).

Going to update the zip and try again.

 

[SCO]

It's fixed. Wrye smash is actually fundamental to fixing it since it allows one to change the dependencies of the ESP and ESM files. I then updated the zip with the new file. While i was at it i updated the mods that had the old morrowind dependency (before patch).

Edit: actually it is not fixed. Sovanbitch uploaded a version with loading errors.

I refuse to believe xbox users can use these mods. The "community" is also ass-backwards. At least update the mod to not require a specialized tool to work.

 

[DraQ]

It's old. A flying dwemer fortress/dungeon.

Sounds like a no-brainer. Even beta TR with no quest will provide much more fun and content, including dungeons.

 

[SCO]

It doesn't conflict with map 1. I'd rather not spoil myself now.

 

[SCO]

as for Sabregirl´s Ecology, as i said, i mainly dislike it for its added creatures which have very noticeable animation issues. it´s also supposed to add herds of guars etc around the map and one time i used it i ended up with overkill clusterfucks of them, but admittedly that might have been due to me handling modlist machinations improperly, though i tend to think otherwise.

http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Mash.html#Doubling
Seems like it's this. I would use the wrye mash save game repair.

 

[SCO]

surprisingly no (not false positives) conflicts.
List is now:

_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.5-BETA.esm
_005_ Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
_006_ Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
_007_ Better Heads.esm
_008_ Book Rotate.esm
_009_ SG-MW-ecology-WW.esm
_010_ GDR_MasterFile.esm
_011_ TR_Data.esm
_012_ TR_Map1.esm
_013_ BT_Whitewolf_2_0.esm
_014_ Aexa's Dwemer Alchemy V2 (EN).esm
_015_ abotWaterLife.esm
_016_ Rise of House Telvanni.esm
_017_ LadyD_Reduced_Commentary.esp
_018_ WeatheredSigns.esp
_019_ Lgnpc_SN.esp
_020_ entertainers.esp
_021_ AreaEffectArrows.esp
_022_ LeFemmArmor.esp
_023_ AdamantiumArmor.esp
_024_ EBQ_Artifact.esp
_025_ Moons_Spawn_V1.3.3_Non_Patched.esp
_026_ CowardlySlaughterfish_0805.esp
_027_ Ald_Ruhn_TG_Devil_Tanto_Tweak.esp
_028_ Seekers Faction v2.0.esp
_029_ No CharGen MessageBoxes.esp
_030_ Siege at Firemoth.esp
_031_ Healers.esp
_032_ LGNPC_NoLore_v0_83.esp
_033_ Wilderness Sounds T & B.esp
_034_ CM_Assassin_5.esp
_035_ Hircine Ring Fix.esp
_036_ Adj_Magicka Regen (0.25%).esp
_037_ SQD_Vile_VampHider.esp
_038_ were-betterer.esp
_039_ Divine_domina_part_1.esp
_040_ Divine_domina_part_2.esp
_041_ Thief's Disguise Kit.esp
_042_ Divine_domina_part_3_Tribunal.esp
_043_ Werewolf Forget.esp
_044_ Better Bodies.esp
_045_ DB_Attack_Mod.esp
_046_ Divine_domina_part_4.esp
_047_ Meteor.esp
_048_ Divine_domina_part_5.esp
_049_ SG-BB-for-beasts.esp
_050_ Yagrum Advanced 2.0.esp
_051_ Madd Leveler - Base.esp
_052_ Madd Leveler - Sederien Skills.esp
_053_ Vivec Signposts.esp
_054_ Windows Glow.esp
_055_ Clean Combat Angle Adjustment.esp
_056_ Indybank-NoHouses.esp
_057_ Reflective Gold.esp
_058_ BetterBooks_AlchFormfix.esp
_059_ Amulet of Scrye.esp
_060_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
_061_ Nevena's Twin Lamps & Slave Hunters 1.5.esp
_062_ Mournhold Clockmaker 1.0.esp
_063_ AshlanderTent.esp
_064_ SG-MW-ecology-WW-plugin.esp
_065_ DW_assassination.esp
_066_ Galur_Rithari_TRotS_v3.esp
_067_ Vampire_dreams_reduction.esp
_068_ k_weather.esp
_069_ abotGuars.esp
_070_ Improved_No_Glow_v1-MW_Trib_Blood.esp
_071_ abotWaterLifeTRaddon.esp
_072_ Vampire Alchemist.esp
_073_ Wanderers of Solstheim.esp
_074_ frostmoth_repaired_v0_31.esp
_075_ Map - Deluxe.esp
_076_ abotSextants.esp
_077_ Mannequins for Sale.esp
_078_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
_079_ Librarian with Jackets & Rotate BM Trib.esp
_080_ SOLcodebook.esp
_081_ Enchantable Gloves of the Bal Molagmer (uber).esp
_082_ Less_Generic_Bloodmoon.esp
_083_ LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp
_084_ LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
_085_ LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
_086_ Dark Uvirith Exterior.esp
_087_ DN-GDRv1.esp
_088_ Westly's Master Headpack X.esp
_089_ LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
_090_ Ice's Glass Cuirass.esp
_091_ Ice_FemaleSteelCuirass.esp
_092_ Ice's BM Ice & NordicMail.esp
_093_ Ice_Wolf_Cuirass_Mod.esp
_094_ Vality's Bitter Coast Addon.esp
_095_ CliffRacerExterminator.esp
_096_ LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
_097_ LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
_098_ IceNioLivRobeReplacerPLUS.esp
_099_ LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp
_100_ LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp
_101_ LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp
_102_ LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp
_103_ LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20_UI.esp
_104_ LGNPC_SecretMasters_v1_30.esp
_105_ LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
_106_ LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp
_107_ Less_Generic_Nerevarine.esp
_108_ LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
_109_ LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
_110_ Bloated Caves.esp
_111_ Graphic Herbalism.esp
_112_ Graphic Herbalism Extra.esp
_113_ BT_Lokken_child1.esp
_114_ Less Generic Tribunal.esp
_115_ almalexia armor.esp
_116_ Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
_117_ Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
_118_ Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
_119_ Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
_120_ Animated Morrowind 1.0.esp
_121_ The Imperial Legion Badge.esp
_122_ DA_Sobitur_YA_Compatibility.ESP
_123_ Building Up Uvirith's Legacy1.1.ESP
_124_ RoHT TLSH Patch.esp
_125_ DA_Sobitur_Facility_Clean.ESP
_126_ DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_1 Clean.esp
_127_ DA_Sobitur_Quest_Part_2 Clean.esp
_128_ DA_Sobitur_Repurposed_1.ESP
_129_ Books of Vvardenfell.esp
_130_ Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp
_131_ quarraclan.esp
_132_ MW_Public_Library.esp
_133_ UL_AshArmor_DivineDomina.esp
_134_ Uvirith's Legacy Book Jackets Add-on.esp
_135_ UL_chess_addon.esp
_136_ NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
_137_ NX9_Guard_LGTrib_patch.ESP
_138_ NX9_Guard_LGRedoran_Patch.ESP
_139_ UL_RoHT_1.4_Compatibility.esp
_140_ LightTheWayScriptBM.esp

 

[.Sigurd]

Those snake dudes had a tail instead of legs, and this was "lore accurate", according to everyone, so I assumed it was correct.

ah, found pics

It's only a myth, you can fight against their skeletons on Oblivion. Also, akavirians like Gaiden Shinji are pretty much humanoids for me.

 

[dr. one]

http://wryemusings.com/Wrye%20Mash.html#Doubling
Seems like it's this. I would use the wrye mash save game repair.

yeah, i know, though it must´ve been one of the mentioned exceptions because i never change load order once i start to play, probably a merged leveled list thing. this happened about four years ago, too late for repair now . hopefully you won´t need it either.

anyway, solid list.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

So, assuming TR = Tamriel Rebuilt, am I supposed to use it? I don't like the idea of a huge place without quests, I think it'll feel unfinished.


EDIT: Is there a reason modders don't always put their textures and the like into tidy "Morrowind/Textures/MyMod" folders, or is it the usual craziness? If I want to remove said mod later, I have to hunt down each one.

 

[SCO]

It's only map 2 that is unfinished. But you need to download the release 2 (that includes map 1 - the other has old bugs).

Anyway my list has changed AGAIN, since i found out that the ecology mod doesn't make slaughterfish not hostile. THIS WILL NOT STAND! I prefer to lose a few logic things than to be attacked constantly while swimming. Instead i now use rational wildlife + were realism as a replacement for 2 there.

I found the REAL best mod ever too: quick char, replaced no chargen messages with it.

I wish i could use MWSE. Keyring looks essential now that i know about it.

EDIT: SHiiit rational wildlife did nothing too. I suspect they are fish added by another mod or tamriel rebuild.

 

[Lim-Lim]

"--i don't want to install 3000 mods if i can help it."

It seems you couldn't.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

HEY DRAQ

Are the Code Patch changes contained on the .exe? It checks for the original .exe, but I'd like to use my no-cd one.

 

[DraQ]

HEY DRAQ

Are the Code Patch changes contained on the .exe? It checks for the original .exe, but I'd like to use my no-cd one.

It seems so, just make yourself a cd image and mount it, it's not really protected in any meaningful manner.

 

[Ruprekt]

I can upload the morrowind mini-image I made if you like.

 

[SCO]

Don't forget to merge the level lists. See the readme for wrye mash if you're using it.

Game ridiculously needs a big world project kind of thing. Outdated mod installers, wrong packaging, wrong file dates, lots of incompatibilities etc.

 

[Vagiel]

Will someone please liberate me me from the endless circle of mod and unmod and offer me gaming nirvana by suggesting or uploading an already playable and well modded game. Well to be more frank i never really understood Internet altruism so guys for this one time if someone is prepared to upload a data file with a playable list i am prepared to do anything asked in return.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I can upload the morrowind mini-image I made if you like.

That'd be awesome, mediafire it up. My laptop is kinda bloated right now so I don't want to go back to using a image.

Edit: Hey cool, my no-cd says it works after you apply the Code Patch, too. But I want the mini image, regardless.

Vagiel: http://btb2.free.fr/morrowind.html

List crafted with the intent of avoiding conflicts. You can even skip the graphical enhancement ones so you don't feel tempted to replace every single thing in the game.

 

[Ruprekt]

http://www.mediafire.com/?0spf8h4cga4gm3y

mini image of morrowind goty

 

[Clockwork Knight]

This better not be just a zip full of trollfaces Hey, thanks!

 

[Vagiel]

Thank you thats appears to be a very good and detailed site, i assume install order is the order of presentation. If i take the plunge i will back up the game with that list and then start adding quest mods which in my opinion is what is needed for a new experience, unfortunately choosing the correct mods and installing them in the right order is the most difficult part. Discerning between mob trash and genuine lore friendly well written content is akin to dig into the mud for diamonds, thats way i hoped someone else already dirty would spare us our sanity. Alas the mud awaits. Farewell,

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Installing order isn't really important, load order is. And you can use Mlox for that. You can cherry pick quest mods later since they usually don't add big stuff.