Hate to be one of *THOSE* people, but...

[Gragt]

My vote is for The Witcher and Mask of the Betrayer.

 

[SimpleComplexity]

Play as CoMmaNdhar SHepharT.

 

[inwoker]

591 post? Deep shit, man.

 

[Nameless0ne]

VtM: Bloodlines and The Witcher

 

[Texas Red]

When you fight a demon with an Asian girl one of your responses is(paraphrased) "I bet you're happy he didn't have tentacles."

 

[Quigs]

Yeah, having an absolute blast with the vampire game. I enjoy the attention to detail, and how for a refreshing change of pace, the game assumes you the player has some intelligence, rather then hand holding. Getting directions is a perfect example. "Go to the parking garage, make a right, then a left, then head down to the pier.", rather then "Go east." and having a new icon pop up on your I can't find shit compass™

I thought I was half decent at combat, but then I faught the first boss. Was pretty tough. I'd like to think the combat system is a bit wonky, especially for melee, but odds are I just suck at it.

MotB... I dunno. Like I said, the whole 3.5 thing is dead to me. Possibly my favorite part of an RPG is character advancement. I love the feeling of my actions bettering my character, and to me, 3.5 completely fails in that regard. Classes are allright when your playing a strategy RPG, and have to juggle a dozen or more units, but when you've only got one character, it just seems so forced. I'm probably in the minority on this issue, and I earnestly don't mean to belittle the opinions of those who recommended the game, it's just I *personally* don't enjoy 3.5 anymore, and that's why I requested it be left out of the recommendations.

 

[Solohk]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

 

[Xor]

The Witcher and MotB were both amazing. Bloodlines was a blast, as well.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

Quigs? Play Mask of the Betrayer. Alright? Just do it. You'll like it. All the cool kids do. You wanna be cool, don't you?

Also seconding The Witcher (enhanced edition, but I enjoyed the unenhanced edition too).

 

[yes plz]

I was never a huge fan of DnD either (Hell, I still don't understand the majority of the rules), but MotB is still an excellent game. The incredible role playing bits of the game as well as the some of the best storytelling in a CRPG in a long while far out weigh the crappy ruleset and battle system.

 

[Zomg]

MotB... I dunno. Like I said, the whole 3.5 thing is dead to me. Possibly my favorite part of an RPG is character advancement. I love the feeling of my actions bettering my character, and to me, 3.5 completely fails in that regard. Classes are allright when your playing a strategy RPG, and have to juggle a dozen or more units, but when you've only got one character, it just seems so forced. I'm probably in the minority on this issue, and I earnestly don't mean to belittle the opinions of those who recommended the game, it's just I *personally* don't enjoy 3.5 anymore, and that's why I requested it be left out of the recommendations.

You can't possibly have a lower opinion of 3+ edition than me, and I enjoyed MotB.

The combat isn't great, but it's not debilitating.

 

[OSK]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

 

[Mefi]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

 

[Zhirzzh]

Look, everything you say about 3.5 is true, especially at epic levels, but MotB is really easy for most classes, and if it gets too hard for your class, just turn it down to easy. The system isn't the point and the combat isn't the point. It's all about the C&C, the lack of handholding, and the story.

 

[Ander Vinz]

Have you installed Wesp's Bloodlines patch, Quigs?

You may also try Gothic 3 with Community patch 1.7 when it's out or 1.6 for now.
Gothic 2 Gold is far better though, so if you haven't played it...

 

[mondblut]

Non hybrid?

I fear Spiderweb games is your only answer.

 

[Hazelnut]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

 

[Xor]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

Can we be done with this already?

 

[racofer]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

Can we be done with this already?

Only when the circle is complete.

 

[Ion Flux]

How do you make it go backward now? Someone show their forum Kung-fu.

 

[DraQ]

Well, its DnD, but Mask of the Betrayer is probably the best CRPG in recent memory.

Sheep.

 

[Hazelnut]

Baaaa.

 

[OSK]

Baaaa.

 

[DoppelG]

Stop drawing my weener.