Grimoire Thread

[Tigranes]

For people waiting - if you're waiting for the 'enhanced edition' equivalent with a lot of balance passes and everything, and you're the kind of guy that waits to play the complete version, sure. If you'r eafraid of savegames being destroyed or game-ending bugs, that really hasn't been the case since the first few days.

Frankly I had the urge to start last night but with the so-called DRM patch coming up I am a bit worried. Even without that Cleve's lowering requirements for Pirate/Assassin/Jester so I figure maybe that will be worth waiting on. I wanna encounter some ?RUDE CHAPS? in a dark alley somewhere and fight ?SQUIRRELS?

I think in many cases all the things we're worried will spoil our experience and all the things we think we might be missing out on, we spend more time reading and worrying and delaying when half the time you could just fire up the game and realise you're having plenty of fun. (Or if you're not, you'll realise much faster.) Just like the guy that spends 10 hours making sure he will play the game exactly right to get Macguffin Sword Easter Egg because he's worried he will waste 50 hours restarting or being gimped without it, when he could just have played normally, not got the sword, and never noticed a thing.

If you want to play, just play, it's not like the game's super broken. You'll realise pretty quick whether it's not for you one way or another.

 

[mondblut]

Well color me surprised. I had no idea. I just thought it was funny.

Also, I couldn't grab the fish with my bard (highest speed stat) but after he turned into a duck he was able to grab the fish with no problem?

The acme machine you can slip to in animal form sells haste potions which can probably be used to catch the fish too.

 

[mondblut]

DO NOT give Steam keys for free out to these dregs.

Misread it as Drogs.



Whew.

You weren't wrong.

Also, where is the video?

 

[Drog Black Tooth]

Still I take from the review that he likes the genre, and noticed what the game offers / could offer ("it could be a really good old-school game").

There's breakdown on third page of his review, the only thing he rates 5/5 is complexity.
According to this man, everything else is shit:

PRÄSENTATION 1/5
GAMEDESIGN 2/5
BALANCE 1/5
ATMOSPHÄRE 2/5

Sascha is a man? Thought it is a girl name, oops, well sissy he is

This is apparently one of the Pathfinder: Kingmaker developers, according to Wikipedia. Infinitron?

 

[Infinitron]

Oh, it's that BerserkerKitten guy. Yeah, he's some kind of community manager/UI design dork on Pathfinder.

 

[mondblut]

Oh, it's that BerserkerKitten guy. Yeah, he's some kind of community manager/UI designer dork on Pathfinder.

I sure hope that UI design is the only thing he is responsible for, because if his list of "what Grimoire did all wrong" is indicative of what their game is going to do "right", that's one game not to look forward to for certain.

 

[Dorateen]

Glad I didn't back Pathfinder.

 

[vonAchdorf]

This is apparently one of the Pathfinder: Kingmaker developers, according to Wikipedia. Infinitron?

 

[vdweller]

Too optimistic there Baff...unless it's flogged in a dollar bundle with a couple of good games(since people won't buy the tier for it) 5k is the most he can hope for. 90% of the audience for this has already bought it with it hovering around 2k so chances of it limping to even 5k is dependent on a very long and slow drip feed, and given the fact the game is ignored everywhere but here, exposure awareness about its existence is virtually nil. Cleve's tales of sales you can take with a big grain. If he counts sales like he counts gameplay hours, then it's overstated by a factor of 6 at least! Steamspy may not be accurate, but the fact that reviews have virtually dried up in the last week show that it pretty much stopped selling.

Poor Cleve..living like a bum for 20 years in the hope he'd be able to retire in glory and now this...

From personal experience, the game could sell another 1-3k within the next 12 months.

Even statistically speaking it's not hard to find a couple thousand more folks who like blobbers, although many of them could have real lives and/or access to some real pussay and thus not have to prove something on the internet by coughing up $40 and then optionally writing a short manifesto about it.

But since the creator himself has stated that he doesn't care about generic exposure or discounts, I don't see how such a discussion is even relevant my dear comrade.

I have to say that if I was less income-dependent on making games than I currently am, I would openly express some of Cleve's attitude towards some "customers". It is a lifelong dream to be able to tell someone "Kindly fuck off, this game is not for you, move along".

 

[Infinitron]

Oh, it's that BerserkerKitten guy. Yeah, he's some kind of community manager/UI designer dork on Pathfinder.

I sure hope that UI design is the only thing he is responsible for, because if his list of "what Grimoire did all wrong" is indicative of what their game is going to do "right", that's one game not to look forward to for certain.

I'm sure you wouldn't like the game even if all of the developers were Grimoire fanboys. Entirely different kind of thing.

But yeah, this guy isn't important. The creative lead behind Kingmaker is Russian ubergrognard Alexander Mishulin.

 

[Tarrant]

For people waiting - if you're waiting for the 'enhanced edition' equivalent with a lot of balance passes and everything, and you're the kind of guy that waits to play the complete version, sure. If you'r eafraid of savegames being destroyed or game-ending bugs, that really hasn't been the case since the first few days.

Frankly I had the urge to start last night but with the so-called DRM patch coming up I am a bit worried. Even without that Cleve's lowering requirements for Pirate/Assassin/Jester so I figure maybe that will be worth waiting on. I wanna encounter some ?RUDE CHAPS? in a dark alley somewhere and fight ?SQUIRRELS?

If you buy the game why are you worried about DRM? And if you want to play now then do it. The game is completely playable and totally enjoyable even without advanced classes.

I got a good laugh out of this. I mean, first it's the manual -- Grimoire doesn't have one, so manuals are no big deal. Now Grimoire has solved the DRM controversy, since if you, like, own the game, you totally shouldn't have any issue with it.

If every time Grimoire started Cleve materialized and took a dump on the carpet, there would be people here linking to steam cleaner rentals and telling people to quit their bitching.

It's remarkable.

 

[ga♥]

Can we assume that is the guy who banned Quantomas because he oppressed trannies on the pathfinder VG forums since "community manager" popped up?

 

[Infinitron]

Can we assume that is the guy who banned Quantomas because he oppressed trannies on the pathfinder VG forums?

Yep, that's the guy.

 

[vdweller]

Can we assume that is the guy who banned Quantomas because he oppressed trannies on the pathfinder VG forums?

Yep, that's the guy.

Can you define "oppressed"?

 

[buru5]

For people waiting - if you're waiting for the 'enhanced edition' equivalent with a lot of balance passes and everything, and you're the kind of guy that waits to play the complete version, sure. If you'r eafraid of savegames being destroyed or game-ending bugs, that really hasn't been the case since the first few days.

Frankly I had the urge to start last night but with the so-called DRM patch coming up I am a bit worried. Even without that Cleve's lowering requirements for Pirate/Assassin/Jester so I figure maybe that will be worth waiting on. I wanna encounter some ?RUDE CHAPS? in a dark alley somewhere and fight ?SQUIRRELS?

If you buy the game why are you worried about DRM? And if you want to play now then do it. The game is completely playable and totally enjoyable even without advanced classes.

I got a good laugh out of this. I mean, first it's the manual -- Grimoire doesn't have one, so manuals are no big deal. Now Grimoire has solved the DRM controversy, since if you, like, own the game, you totally shouldn't have any issue with it.

If every time Grimoire started Cleve materialized and took a dump on the carpet, there would be people here linking to steam cleaner rentals and telling people to quit their bitching.

It's remarkable.

Assumptions are a sign of extreme stupidity.

Do you have any evidence that I was anti-DRM at any time? If anything I have defended it in the past and constantly shit on piracy as I'm not a poorfag or socialist scum. So before you use my post as an example of some sort of hypocrisy, make sure you can back it up. Oh, and kill yourself.

 

[PEACH]

I got a good laugh out of this. I mean, first it's the manual -- Grimoire doesn't have one, so manuals are no big deal. Now Grimoire has solved the DRM controversy, since if you, like, own the game, you totally shouldn't have any issue with it.

If every time Grimoire started Cleve materialized and took a dump on the carpet, there would be people here linking to steam cleaner rentals and telling people to quit their bitching.

It's remarkable.

Well you'll hardly find me slaving over posts about manuals or DRM but ultimately all I care about is whether it's a good game and if it works. 1/3 through it I think it's outstanding and I haven't seen a bug in weeks so as long as nothing changes that I couldn't give a fuck less what he does.

Cleve will be Cleve and the only options are to love it live with it or leave it. Considering the quality of the game itself I make no bones about my stance on the matter.

 

[Tarrant]

For people waiting - if you're waiting for the 'enhanced edition' equivalent with a lot of balance passes and everything, and you're the kind of guy that waits to play the complete version, sure. If you'r eafraid of savegames being destroyed or game-ending bugs, that really hasn't been the case since the first few days.

Frankly I had the urge to start last night but with the so-called DRM patch coming up I am a bit worried. Even without that Cleve's lowering requirements for Pirate/Assassin/Jester so I figure maybe that will be worth waiting on. I wanna encounter some ?RUDE CHAPS? in a dark alley somewhere and fight ?SQUIRRELS?

If you buy the game why are you worried about DRM? And if you want to play now then do it. The game is completely playable and totally enjoyable even without advanced classes.

I got a good laugh out of this. I mean, first it's the manual -- Grimoire doesn't have one, so manuals are no big deal. Now Grimoire has solved the DRM controversy, since if you, like, own the game, you totally shouldn't have any issue with it.

If every time Grimoire started Cleve materialized and took a dump on the carpet, there would be people here linking to steam cleaner rentals and telling people to quit their bitching.

It's remarkable.

Assumptions are a sign of extreme stupidity.

Do you have any evidence that I was anti-DRM at any time? If anything I have defended it in the past and constantly shit on piracy as I'm not a poorfag or socialist scum. So before you use my post as an example of some sort of hypocrisy, make sure you can back it up. Oh, and kill yourself.

Settle down, turbo. I apologize for triggering the hell out of your delicate sensibilities, but it's not healthy to blow your top over somebody on the internet misinterpreting a post. If you want to talk about it or just need somebody to listen, you're welcome to PM me. I'm here for you.

 

[buru5]

I think you missed the last sentence of my previous post.

 

[Tarrant]

I got a good laugh out of this. I mean, first it's the manual -- Grimoire doesn't have one, so manuals are no big deal. Now Grimoire has solved the DRM controversy, since if you, like, own the game, you totally shouldn't have any issue with it.

If every time Grimoire started Cleve materialized and took a dump on the carpet, there would be people here linking to steam cleaner rentals and telling people to quit their bitching.

It's remarkable.

Well you'll hardly find me slaving over posts about manuals or DRM but ultimately all I care about is whether it's a good game and if it works. 1/3 through it I think it's outstanding and I haven't seen a bug in weeks so as long as nothing changes that I couldn't give a fuck less what he does.

Cleve will be Cleve and the only options are to love it live with it or leave it. Considering the quality of the game itself I make no bones about my stance on the matter.

Yeah I largely agree, and I'm going to play like a bastard after the next patch or two. It's just the rabid, wild-eyed defense of obvious missteps on Cleve's part that I find hilarious.

 

[Tarrant]

I think you missed the last sentence of my previous post.

Assumptions are a sign of extreme stupidity. :D

 

[buru5]

Assumptions are a sign of extreme stupidity. :D

That's the first sentence you fucking retard

 

[Tarrant]

Assumptions are a sign of extreme stupidity. :D

That's the first sentence you fucking retard

You're *so* mad right now. ;x I feel bad.. heh.

Can we take this to PMs until you calm down? I don't wanna keep muddying up the thread.

 

[:Flash:]

The biggest German gaming magazine published a review of Grimoire today. They gave it a 30/100, but the author found a lot to like buried under a bad UI, missing manual and non existing balancing.

http://www.gamestar.de/artikel/grim...r-retro-masochismus-fuer-37-euro,3318816.html

Haha, they have an infobox titled "Why do the Screenshots look so strange", where they explain to their readers that 16:9 was not always the standard and Grimoire uses some long forgotten aspect ratio.

 

[buru5]

You're *so* mad right now. ;x I feel bad.. heh.

Can we take this to PMs until you calm down? I don't wanna keep muddying up the thread.

You know you're a fucking retard but I guess the illusion that you actually have an emotional effect on people over the internet is what keeps you going, and I'll entertain that for your sake. But you've been muddying up every Grimoire thread with your presence for awhile now so I don't see the need to stop. Our exchange is actually more insightful than any of your on topic posts so far.

 

[Tarrant]

You're *so* mad right now. ;x I feel bad.. heh.

Can we take this to PMs until you calm down? I don't wanna keep muddying up the thread.

You know you're a fucking retard but I guess the illusion that you actually have an emotional effect on people over the internet is what keeps you going, and I'll entertain that for your sake. But you've been muddying up every Grimoire thread with your presence for awhile now so I don't see the need to stop. Our exchange is actually more insightful than any of your on topic posts so far.

;-x