Dragon Age: There Goes The Neighborhood

[Castanova]

Dragon Age confirmed for consoles one year from now:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/920/920 ... Sid=920670

 

[Deleted member 7219]

I bet EA decided this, to maximise revenue.

 

[Shannow]

Wait. There was doubt about this?

 

[Mister Arkham]

No real surprise.

 

[DemonKing]

This has been known about for some time and was probably inevitable once EA took over.

Let's hope that future DA titles continue to be developed first on PC rather than being console ports...although I won't keep my hopes up.

 

[Drakron]

Dragon Age was in development hell, I think if it was released as a screensaver it would be victory of some kind.

Of Spore was in development hell as well and ... well we seen what come out of it.

 

[Chefe]

Who cares? The only good game Bioware ever created was KOTOR, and that fell apart half way through the story. NWN was a toolkit, so I don't count that as a "game".

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Who cares? The only good game Bioware ever created was KOTOR, and that fell apart half way through the story. NWN was a toolkit, so I don't count that as a "game".

I thought Jade Empire and Mass Effect were good too. Slightly unfair to dismiss them totally, anyway.

 

[Chefe]

I've claimed to fall asleep during many dull games, but Mass Effect was the only one where I ever actually passed out.

 

[SuicideBunny]

I thought Jade Empire and Mass Effect were good too. Slightly unfair to dismiss them totally, anyway.

jade empire constantly promised leet shiznit without delivering (oh but the open palm and closed fist are not simply good and evil... it's about intent! intent i tellz ya! wait, you want to tell me why you did that? i don't care go fuck yourself.), spoiled the most critical element of the story in the first five minutes, and effectively was a westernized superficial scrapping of quasi-asian mythology without any depth whatsoever, which is sad, because it could have been awesome. mass effect on the other hand was just a mediocre game full of jrpg-yes-no-styled but more elaborate quasi-choices without any significant consequences.
not to mention that both are chosen one must kill teh foozle games. meh.

if da is anything like them, it can rot in console hell for all i care.

 

[Deleted member 7219]

They may have been lacking as RPGs, but they were still enjoyable to play through as video games.

 

[Skankster]

The Baldurs gate games were pretty good, and had some toughish battles. Apart from that the rest have been far too easy in that aspect. Some of the content included in all the games has been good.

If only they were a bit more challenging and tactical.

 

[SuicideBunny]

They may have been lacking as RPGs, but they were still enjoyable to play through as video games.

hm, good point. the fact that i finished both means they weren't total failures.. but still.. so much fucking potential wasted.

 

[Drakron]

I thought Jade Empire and Mass Effect were good too. Slightly unfair to dismiss them totally, anyway.

I know someone already had a kick at this but ...

Jade Empire starts relative well and then falls apart, its a very flawed game that I would not call "good"... in order to be good it would have to undergo a complete redesign in pretty much all fields.

Mass Effect is pretty much the standard BioWaring RPG ... except its far too much "strait to DVD/TV movie" B Movie and its full of awkward moments, not to say I am getting tired of the whole "power of 3" that BioWare is having going since NwN (yes, even JE had it ... the Spirit Monk amulet).

 

[Annonchinil]

By some reason I have this feeling that the Dragon Age forums have gotten more retarded as the game was unveiled.

 

[DemonKing]

Jade Empire starts relative well and then falls apart, its a very flawed game that I would not call "good"... in order to be good it would have to undergo a complete redesign in pretty much all fields.

Mass Effect is pretty much the standard BioWaring RPG ... except its far too much "strait to DVD/TV movie" B Movie and its full of awkward moments.

I'm not sure I agree with you. Apart from the combat, which I found to be rather lacking in both games, I found them both to be enjoyable romps with decent stories albeit heavily based on the KOTOR model rather than the BG one. Sure they had some B movie momments but overall they were "epic" in a good way, IMO.

 

[SuicideBunny]

decent stories

what exactly was decent about me's "let's promote racism with a chosen one kills the incredibly ancient incredibly evil foozle plot" story?

 

[DemonKing]

decent stories

what exactly was decent about me's "let's promote racism with a chosen one kills the incredibly ancient incredibly evil foozle plot" story?

Not sure if you're refering to JE, ME or both...

In any event, I thought the storytelling was one of the strong points of both games. It was certainly better than the combat, mingames, vehicle sections and inventory systems.

Maybe the plots themselves were not the most original but the delivery, style and characterisation used to present the stories were pretty decent.

 

[inwoker]

Who cares? The only good game Bioware ever created was Baldur's Gate 2.

fixed

 

[Deleted member 7219]

Who cares? The only good game Bioware ever created was Baldur's Gate 2.

fixed

Yeah if you like lots of isometric sprite-based combat...

 

[Lesifoere]

spoiled the most critical element of the story in the first five minutes, and effectively was a westernized superficial scrapping of quasi-asian mythology without any depth whatsoever, which is sad, because it could have been awesome.

This. An RPG set in Chinese-derivative setting could have been so good--if the writers bothered to do any research, to get acquainted with the actual culture... but no. I imagine the only research they did was watching Mulan. If that.

mass effect on the other hand was just a mediocre game full of jrpg-yes-no-styled but more elaborate quasi-choices without any significant consequences.

Worse, they ripped off much better sci-fi with a zest I find astounding even for Bioware. Firefly, Farscape, and probably a bunch of other things.

 

[J1M]

spoiled the most critical element of the story in the first five minutes, and effectively was a westernized superficial scrapping of quasi-asian mythology without any depth whatsoever, which is sad, because it could have been awesome.

This. An RPG set in Chinese-derivative setting could have been so good--if the writers bothered to do any research, to get acquainted with the actual culture... but no. I imagine the only research they did was watching Mulan. If that.

mass effect on the other hand was just a mediocre game full of jrpg-yes-no-styled but more elaborate quasi-choices without any significant consequences.

Worse, they ripped off much better sci-fi with a zest I find astounding even for Bioware. Firefly, Farscape, and probably a bunch of other things.

No, not really. Asian mythology is pretty shitty. Norse or Celtic alone is a much better place to draw from than all of Asia.

 

[SuicideBunny]

No, not really. Asian mythology is pretty shitty. Norse or Celtic alone is a much better place to draw from than all of Asia.

it comes down to taste. norse mythology is boring me to hell because of the similarities to modern greek mythology, which has been so fucking overdone in both pnp and computer rpgs that it hurts, and the fact that it's the source of a great deal of cliche fantasy monsters and races, while celtic mythology seems the same flavour as shinto to me, and, contrary to shinto, has been quite overdone in jrpgs.

 

[Silellak]

Who cares? The only good game Bioware ever created was Baldur's Gate 2.

fixed

Yeah if you like lots of isometric sprite-based combat...

Are there people here who don't?

 

[KevinV12000]

The thing about idiocy is that it is not content to simply leave its massive empire alone.

It's not enough that console gaming has wiped out PC gaming. The market must be sure by wiping out even the possibility of an alternative.

That's the great thing about being a moron: you never, ever lose.