Divinity: Original Sin Pre-Release Thread

[HiddenX]

Tell me the names and I will throw them out of tower to the wrath of the Red Imps ...

 

[deamento]

Myrthos

 

[HiddenX]

nice trick - didn't work

 

[evdk]

What is this, Death Note? Stop trying so hard.

 

[deamento]

What is this, Death Note? Stop trying so hard.

not really trying though

 

[felipepepe]

What is this, Death Note? Stop trying so hard.

not really trying though

It shows.

 

[deamento]

alright, if you say so

 

[Mangoose]

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and NWN-level moduleWORLD making capabilities.

FIXT!

Zep--

NWN modules sound more appealing. They are one of the few times that the modding community created a plethora of good content - and not graphix and texturezzz superficial shit, but gameplay content in the form of branching dialogues, interestingly scripted quests, etc., etc. "World making capabilities" make me think of superficial TES mods.

 

[evdk]

Also the edit kills the flow of the sentence.

 

[deamento]

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and NWN-level moduleWORLD making capabilities.

FIXT!

Zep--

NWN modules sound more appealing. They are one of the few times that the modding community created a plethora of good content - and not graphix and texturezzz superficial shit, but gameplay content in the form of branching dialogues, interestingly scripted quests, etc., etc. "World making capabilities" make me think of superficial TES mods.

agreed. also, world making capabilities sounds a bit dry

 

[Zeriel]

That said, "world" does encapsulate one massive difference between NWN 1 & 2 and D:OS. The area size. Neverwinter areas are fairly small even at the max size, and the max size with lots of placeables (esp trees) quickly starts behaving erratically, either corrupting itself in the toolset or not running properly or well in-game. At least as far as size goes, D:OS areas are massive and fairly contiguous. We'll have to see what it's capable of in terms of highly dense placeables and vegetation.

 

[deamento]

That said, "world" does encapsulate one massive difference between NWN 1 & 2 and D:OS. The area size. Neverwinter areas are fairly small even at the max size, and the max size with lots of placeables (esp trees) quickly starts behaving erratically, either corrupting itself in the toolset or not running properly or well in-game. At least as far as size goes, D:OS areas are massive and fairly contiguous. We'll have to see what it's capable of in terms of highly dense placeables and vegetation.

you have to remember that you're trying to sell the game, the customer will read the quotes, might get excited, buy the game, play the game, forget about the quotes and then maybe start modding

 

[HiddenX]

maybe

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and Terraforming capabilities.

or

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and modding capabilities.

 

[Infinitron]

The point is to compare it to another game so people have a frame of reference. "Hey, game X was awesome, and this game is like it! DAY ONE PURCHASE."

 

[Angthoron]

Pshaw. "It's like liquid sex where everyone gets a turn"

Put on the box, enjoy the massive spike (hurr) of sales in turn-based gaming segment.

 

[deamento]

maybe

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and Terraforming capabilities.

or

It's an Ultima VII inspired CRPG with Fallout-style turn-based combat and modding capabilities.

the 1st one doesn't really sound appealing
and the 2nd is more of a cut down version of the original
why are we trying to improve on it anyway? it sounds fine to me

 

[Mangoose]

That said, "world" does encapsulate one massive difference between NWN 1 & 2 and D:OS. The area size. Neverwinter areas are fairly small even at the max size, and the max size with lots of placeables (esp trees) quickly starts behaving erratically, either corrupting itself in the toolset or not running properly or well in-game. At least as far as size goes, D:OS areas are massive and fairly contiguous. We'll have to see what it's capable of in terms of highly dense placeables and vegetation.

Except, placeables and vegetation are again, superficial shit. If I wanted to explore a world with custom non-gameplay-effecting (relative to, say, a NWN module)combat, I've got TES and ARMA. What I am looking forward to is custom crafted content on a high level, where I feel like I'm almost playing a new game, rather than the same game with shit added on.

In other words, "world" is not a massive difference from NWN to D:OS - it is a technical large difference, but in terms of the realm of gameplay, it is not significant compared to all the scripting, writing, and all else that you can do with NWN modules and hopefully DOS.

 

[deamento]

That said, "world" does encapsulate one massive difference between NWN 1 & 2 and D:OS. The area size. Neverwinter areas are fairly small even at the max size, and the max size with lots of placeables (esp trees) quickly starts behaving erratically, either corrupting itself in the toolset or not running properly or well in-game. At least as far as size goes, D:OS areas are massive and fairly contiguous. We'll have to see what it's capable of in terms of highly dense placeables and vegetation.

Except, placeables and vegetation are again, superficial shit. If I wanted to explore a world with custom non-gameplay-effecting (relative to, say, a NWN module)combat, I've got TES and ARMA. What I am looking forward to is custom crafted content on a high level, where I feel like I'm almost playing a new game, rather than the same game with shit added on.

In other words, "world" is not a massive difference from NWN to D:OS - it is a technical large difference, but in terms of the realm of gameplay, it is not significant compared to all the scripting, writing, and all else that you can do with NWN modules and hopefully DOS.

but can't the surroundings help improve the quality of a mod?
i know they are one of the least important in a propper mod but they are still useful to a skilled modder

 

[Zep Zepo]

I like how an initial pretend "box blurb" fix turns into a real discussion.

Zep--

 

[Mangoose]

That said, "world" does encapsulate one massive difference between NWN 1 & 2 and D:OS. The area size. Neverwinter areas are fairly small even at the max size, and the max size with lots of placeables (esp trees) quickly starts behaving erratically, either corrupting itself in the toolset or not running properly or well in-game. At least as far as size goes, D:OS areas are massive and fairly contiguous. We'll have to see what it's capable of in terms of highly dense placeables and vegetation.

Except, placeables and vegetation are again, superficial shit. If I wanted to explore a world with custom non-gameplay-effecting (relative to, say, a NWN module)combat, I've got TES and ARMA. What I am looking forward to is custom crafted content on a high level, where I feel like I'm almost playing a new game, rather than the same game with shit added on.

In other words, "world" is not a massive difference from NWN to D:OS - it is a technical large difference, but in terms of the realm of gameplay, it is not significant compared to all the scripting, writing, and all else that you can do with NWN modules and hopefully DOS.

but can't the surroundings help improve the quality of a mod?
i know they are one of the least important in a propper mod but they are still useful to a skilled modder

NWN was an ugly piece of shit but I still loved playing custom modules all the time. There were maybe 1 or 2 modules that had interesting environment. Good writing can describe an beautiful setting without graphics.

 

[Angthoron]

Well, I can see a proper remake of U7 or IE games on Larian's new engine, at least if everything they've shown is to go by, with a lot of work, but still, doable, but think about how this would go with NWN. It'd take an insane amount of work, and the result would just make people wonder why not just replay the original anyway.

 

[deamento]

That said, "world" does encapsulate one massive difference between NWN 1 & 2 and D:OS. The area size. Neverwinter areas are fairly small even at the max size, and the max size with lots of placeables (esp trees) quickly starts behaving erratically, either corrupting itself in the toolset or not running properly or well in-game. At least as far as size goes, D:OS areas are massive and fairly contiguous. We'll have to see what it's capable of in terms of highly dense placeables and vegetation.

Except, placeables and vegetation are again, superficial shit. If I wanted to explore a world with custom non-gameplay-effecting (relative to, say, a NWN module)combat, I've got TES and ARMA. What I am looking forward to is custom crafted content on a high level, where I feel like I'm almost playing a new game, rather than the same game with shit added on.

In other words, "world" is not a massive difference from NWN to D:OS - it is a technical large difference, but in terms of the realm of gameplay, it is not significant compared to all the scripting, writing, and all else that you can do with NWN modules and hopefully DOS.

but can't the surroundings help improve the quality of a mod?
i know they are one of the least important in a propper mod but they are still useful to a skilled modder

NWN was an ugly piece of shit but I still loved playing custom modules all the time. There were maybe 1 or 2 modules that had interesting environment. Good writing can describe an beautiful setting without graphics.

yea you got me there, NWN looked like someone smeared a turd on my screen, but i was talking about D:OS, i think it looks incredible, especially in a forest.

 

[Roguey]

Roguey is incredibly consistent: whatever Sawyer says is what she's going to present as her beliefs. This is also why paying attention/arguing with her is utterly pointless. You're arguing in proxy with Sawyer, who isn't even aware/doesn't care.

There's nothing inconsistent here. I don't care about NPC schedules when they're not obnoxious. I'm expecting obnoxiousness from Larian, given their track record of doing things well.

 

[Mangoose]

Roguey is incredibly consistent: whatever Sawyer says is what she's going to present as her beliefs. This is also why paying attention/arguing with her is utterly pointless. You're arguing in proxy with Sawyer, who isn't even aware/doesn't care.

There's nothing inconsistent here. I don't care about NPC schedules when they're not obnoxious. I'm expecting obnoxiousness from Larian, given their track record of doing things well.

How obnoxious, that I can't go to the store at 4am.

 

[Angthoron]

I find your lack of consistency disturbing.

Roguey is incredibly consistent: whatever Sawyer says is what she's going to present as her beliefs. This is also why paying attention/arguing with her is utterly pointless. You're arguing in proxy with Sawyer, who isn't even aware/doesn't care.

Perhaps this is because... Roguey is really Sawyer?

Dun dun DUUUUUN.