Arkane Dishonored 2 - Emily and Corvo's Serkonan Vacation

[Siel]

 

[Beowulf]

AI is also sharper (at least on hard)

Can the AI spot you when you are leaning?

 

[Siel]

AI is also sharper (at least on hard)

Can the AI spot you when you are leaning?

Yes. Slowly on Normal. Quicker starting Hard.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

AI is also sharper (at least on hard)

Can the AI spot you when you are leaning?

Yes. Also when you stand up and make a single step, they're immediately alerted. Also hiding in a dumpster doesn't help, they'll spot you if they get too near. Guards also take flight if they're hurt badly, but can be catched up and stabbed dead if they run out of breath. Overall, messing with them is more "messy" than in D1. Clean stealth gameplay is now more challenging (at least on hard and up).

 

[vortex]

You shouldn't be blaming engine for dev shortcomings. UE3 games from the previous gen weight a lot more than other games (Dishonored GOTY - 15 Gb, New Vegas GOTY - less than 10). It's just that the console games are currently distributed via blu-ray discs, and devs feel like they should take as much free space as they can. That's why this gen games weight so much.
In other words, I have doubts about UE4 performing better in this case, but Zenithesda is too busy pushing id Tech for all projects made in their internal studios anyway, so it won't happen.

Ok, I don't know exactly how this works but I disagree with you in one point. Definetely, previous gen had smaller sized textures but not Idtech. There is something in a way how Id bakes light into textures but I don't know how does this works. Compared to Unreal and Cryengine which render light dynamically. So, even this gen console to PC port could have smaller size in Unreal and Cryengine.
But, don't quote me on this 'cause I don't understand how Idtech is rendering.

 

[racofer]

Unreal engine worked just fine and it has lower system requirements. Changing to an ID engine was a stupid decision.

 

[Makabb]

Unreal engine worked just fine and it has lower system requirements. Changing to an ID engine was a stupid decision.

As Bethesda owns ID, it was probably cheaper to have engine which they already own. So the only reason was money.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Unreal engine worked just fine and it has lower system requirements. Changing to an ID engine was a stupid decision.

As Bethesda owns ID, it was probably cheaper to have engine which they already own. So the only reason was money.

Or the fact that UE4 wasn't available yet when they started developing D2.

 

[Latelistener]

Remove some dynamic shadows and you won't be able to tell the difference between this and the first game.

Spoiler

 

[Siel]

Remove some dynamic shadows and you won't be able to tell the difference between this and the first game.

Spoiler

Ok but then what about the more detailed object modelisation, more detailed vegetation, lightning, shadow quality, texture quality?

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

D2 looks a hell lot better ingame than what the screenshots suggest. Also the level design is complexer, areas vaster, more characters, better AI, Physics and sound. Overall a better experience than D1, wasn't it for the wonky performance.

 

[vortex]

 

[Ivan]

complexer

 

[Latelistener]

Ok but then what about the more detailed object modelisation, more detailed vegetation, lightning, shadow quality, texture quality?

On this I will tell you that it still looks subpar compared to some other modern titles that even run better.

Btw:

 

[Siel]

For people here having performance issues, you can revert your nvidia drivers to 373.06.
Worked for me.

 

[Heretic]

- Technical issues
- Sound bugs (direction and volume are often off)

+ Great level design
+ OK AI with limited senses
+ Very good story

 

[Darth Slaughter]

I played a little with corvo, its going ok. The only irritating thing is when framerate drops, the mouse speed changes, but it doesn't happen too often, fortunatelly. Gameplay is identical to dishonored 1, and visually it looks like the same game - asset-wise and the layout of a map with a main street and various routes between right and left buildings.

The graphics improvements are only texture-wise on characters, because enviroment texture reminds me of rage/wofenstein TNO engine, which had blurry textures up close - but of course here it's not THAT blurry. And it has better lighting. But in the end it even looks like it's running in the same engine as the previous one, except for the fact it's badly optimized.

I am having fun with it and only stoped playing because after 3 hours playing it crashed.

 

[Siel]

I played a little with corvo, its going ok. The only irritating thing is when framerate drops, the mouse speed changes, but it doesn't happen too often, fortunatelly. Gameplay is identical to dishonored 1, and visually it looks like the same game - asset-wise and the layout of a map with a main street and various routes between right and left buildings.

The graphics improvements are only texture-wise on characters, because enviroment texture reminds me of rage/wofenstein TNO engine, which had blurry textures up close - but of course here it's not THAT blurry. And it has better lighting. But in the end it even looks like it's running in the same engine as the previous one, except for the fact it's badly optimized.

I am having fun with it and only stoped playing because after 3 hours playing it crashed.

Have you reached Karnaka yet?

 

[Darth Slaughter]

I played a little with corvo, its going ok. The only irritating thing is when framerate drops, the mouse speed changes, but it doesn't happen too often, fortunatelly. Gameplay is identical to dishonored 1, and visually it looks like the same game - asset-wise and the layout of a map with a main street and various routes between right and left buildings.

The graphics improvements are only texture-wise on characters, because enviroment texture reminds me of rage/wofenstein TNO engine, which had blurry textures up close - but of course here it's not THAT blurry. And it has better lighting. But in the end it even looks like it's running in the same engine as the previous one, except for the fact it's badly optimized.

I am having fun with it and only stoped playing because after 3 hours playing it crashed.

Have you reached Karnaka yet?

Nope. I'm looking to every nook and cranny...

 

[Great Deceiver]

D1 was designed for PC. D2 is a port. I think here lies the problem.

What makes you say that? Dishonored 1 was developed simultaneously for all platforms, exactly like Dishonored 2.

 

[Siel]

I played a little with corvo, its going ok. The only irritating thing is when framerate drops, the mouse speed changes, but it doesn't happen too often, fortunatelly. Gameplay is identical to dishonored 1, and visually it looks like the same game - asset-wise and the layout of a map with a main street and various routes between right and left buildings.

The graphics improvements are only texture-wise on characters, because enviroment texture reminds me of rage/wofenstein TNO engine, which had blurry textures up close - but of course here it's not THAT blurry. And it has better lighting. But in the end it even looks like it's running in the same engine as the previous one, except for the fact it's badly optimized.

I am having fun with it and only stoped playing because after 3 hours playing it crashed.

Have you reached Karnaka yet?

Nope. I'm looking to every nook and cranny...

I think level design gets really more interesting after that.

 

[vortex]

What makes you say that? Dishonored 1 was developed simultaneously for all platforms, exactly like Dishonored 2.

I got that impression because it didn't feel as such performance-wise. I hope they'll fix lag issues tomorrow.

 

[Great Deceiver]

- Technical issues
- Sound bugs (direction and volume are often off)

+ Great level design
+ OK AI with limited senses
+ Very good story

What's up with all the contrived metaphors? Fucking millenials.

 

[Raghar]

I seen Z fighting, and shadow flickering over texture. Basically, GFX problems.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]