Flying Spaghetti Monster: As much as I hate christfags and jewfags and muhammedfags...
Flying Spaghetti Monster: it just gets boring after awhile
Disco Strategist: well the truth is, Losh
Disco Strategist: if religion was to be eliminated on Earth
Disco Strategist: we would have much LESS wars
Disco Strategist: let alone other crimes
Flying Spaghetti Monster: I also don't buy that argument, Skyway
Flying Spaghetti Monster: wars are never fought over religion
Disco Strategist: lulz
Flying Spaghetti Monster: they're just one of many ways to split people
Flying Spaghetti Monster: wars are fought over resources
Disco Strategist: tell that to crusaders or muslims who fly planes into skyscrapers
raw: nonsense FSM
Disco Strategist: allah akbar
raw: wars are fought for FREEDOM
Disco Strategist: no no FSM means
Disco Strategist: resources like
Disco Strategist: 72 virgins
Flying Spaghetti Monster: that's bullshit
Disco Strategist: or kingdom of heaven
Flying Spaghetti Monster: and a terrorist act = war?
Losh: christianity is also a religion spread by the sword
Flying Spaghetti Monster: and the crusades were DEFINITELY fought over resources
Disco Strategist: muslims blow up each other even FSM
Phage left chat.
Flying Spaghetti Monster: okay... how is that a war?
Disco Strategist: crusades were not fought over resources
Flying Spaghetti Monster: bullshit
Flying Spaghetti Monster: stop the lies, start the truths
Flying Spaghetti Monster: religion has been the rallying cry for a lot of wras
Flying Spaghetti Monster: *wars
Disco Strategist: if you didn't go to christian school and went to a public school instead
Flying Spaghetti Monster: but never the cause
Disco Strategist: you would know about crusades
Disco Strategist: in fact it isn't too late
Losh: chat is inclining
Disco Strategist: you can read up on them
Disco Strategist: and how fucked up they were
Flying Spaghetti Monster: I know how fucked up they were
Losh: how fucked up were they?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: not a shining moment in western history
Disco Strategist: so tell me which resources were there for christians to get on christian lands
Disco Strategist: which they burned for lulz?
Losh: no body answered my question
Flying Spaghetti Monster: ummm... Jerusalem and the surrounding regions were extremely wealthy at the time
Disco Strategist: because one of crusades ended up with all crusaders attacking a christian castle for teh lulz
Disco Strategist: they never even reached muslim land
Flying Spaghetti Monster: the 4th crusade?
Disco Strategist: for one
Flying Spaghetti Monster: where the Venetians sacked Constantinople and installed a pretender on the throne?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: why do you think they did that?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: could it be... the wealth of the Byzantine Empire?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: if anything, that hurts your argument rather than helps it
Disco Strategist: what was the main objective of the crusade?
Disco Strategist: because the Pope sure as hell didn't like how it ended up being
Flying Spaghetti Monster: ostensibly to take over Jerusalem again
Losh: justin is such a bad ass
Flying Spaghetti Monster: okay? what is your point?
Disco Strategist: "a tragedy! a believer attacking a believer!"
Disco Strategist: my point is that the whole reason why crusades began
Disco Strategist: was pope saying
Disco Strategist: DEUS VULT motherfucker
Flying Spaghetti Monster: okay... and the Popes were politicians more than religious zealots
Flying Spaghetti Monster: if you think otherwise, you're pretty silly
Disco Strategist: there are no religious people working at churches - news at 11
Flying Spaghetti Monster: please, you know what I mean
Disco Strategist: who gives a shit about Pope?
Disco Strategist: all the retards went there
Disco Strategist: because Deus Vult
Flying Spaghetti Monster: really?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: no, some went there for that reason
Flying Spaghetti Monster: others were opportunists
Disco Strategist: are you saying bydlo that had to murder each other got some of those "resources"?
Disco Strategist: Deus Vult, bro
Flying Spaghetti Monster: the Knights Templar became hugely wealthy due to the Crusades
Disco Strategist: of course, when you rob people
Disco Strategist: you eventually end up wealthy
Flying Spaghetti Monster: religion is only one of many ways to color the jerseys of the sides
Losh: christianity is a warring religion
Losh: it spreads by conquest
Disco Strategist: and even then - the leaders became wealthy
Disco Strategist: not bydlo
Flying Spaghetti Monster: okay?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: dude, you're fucking obtuse
Flying Spaghetti Monster: my argument is that it's one of many ways to color the teams
Flying Spaghetti Monster: like nationalism
Flying Spaghetti Monster: like communism
Flying Spaghetti Monster: like any other ideology
Disco Strategist: now if there were no religions - what bullshit would kings use to attack some country?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: religion is at the core no different
Flying Spaghetti Monster: they'd think of something, they always do
Disco Strategist: this may come to you as a surprise but people don't like to die for no reason
Flying Spaghetti Monster: yeah, but they still do
Disco Strategist: no
you need a reason
Flying Spaghetti Monster: look at the wars of the 19th and 20th centuries
Disco Strategist: otherwise you lose wars
Flying Spaghetti Monster: not religious conflicts
Flying Spaghetti Monster: dude, no shit there is a reason
Disco Strategist: look at the wars of previous millenias?
Flying Spaghetti Monster: and religion is often used as the reason
Disco Strategist: all religious shit
Disco Strategist: and even modern wars
Disco Strategist: are religious
Flying Spaghetti Monster: really?
Disco Strategist: any muslim war
Disco Strategist: is purely religion-driven
Flying Spaghetti Monster: nope
Disco Strategist: yep
Flying Spaghetti Monster: it's not and you're stupid for being so gullible
Flying Spaghetti Monster: it's the reason given to the masses
Flying Spaghetti Monster: but never the reason for war
Disco Strategist: "Flying Spaghetti Monster: it's the reason given to the masses"
exactly
Disco Strategist: and thus the reason for wars
Disco Strategist: masses fight wars
Disco Strategist: not leaders
Flying Spaghetti Monster: jesus, I forget how impossible it is to speak to you
Flying Spaghetti Monster: done
Flying Spaghetti Monster left chat.
Disco Strategist: lulz
Losh: waaaaaaaaagh
Losh: YOU FUCKING NIGGER
Losh: WHAT DID YOU DO
Losh: someone call the waaahbulance
LundB: hahahahaha
Losh: that was silly
Berekän: What?
LundB: skyway scared someone away
Berekän: Did he really ragequit?
Losh: ya
LundB: lol
Losh: jesus, i forget how impossible it is to force my opinion on you