KickStarter BATTLETECH - turn-based mech combat from Harebrained Schemes

[KoolNoodles]

Probably going to restart and bump up the difficulty. I think that will help with the feel of managing mercs. Less money, more downed Mechs/Pilots, more rotation of Mechs/Pilots.

what changes do you have in mind?

Gonna try modding contracts to allow for more enemy mechs, possibly.

Found somebody did this, so who knows. Just gonna look inside and see what I can tweak.

MaxContractsPerSystem

ContractRenewalPerWeek

in the SimGameConstants.json file, I set it to 10 and I get 10 contracts.

 

[Jenkem]

The game is good and a lot better than most of the dreck that gets pushed out in the name of Battletech or even tacticool games tbqh... It is damn good and it is a damn shame that we have people on here spouting vicious hyperbole about the gameplay. Also whinging about an optional pronoun choice that literally never appears in the game past the character creation... smh

 

[fantadomat]

Sooo can you change sides in the campaign?

Think sjws would allow you to turn against the stronk wymmyn lead character?

It's a mess. In the intro/tutorial, we are shown that the Directorate are cartoon villain usurpers betray their kin with underhanded tactics and replace a more decentralized feudal-vassal setup ("good") with a centralized autocracy ("bad"). Victoria in particular is depicted without the gravitas of a righteous cause, as a vader killing an obiwan. And worst of all, the Directorate commit the grave sin of incompetence since they let Arano escape and covered it up. The intro monologue explicitly calls you a Hero for getting rid of these Bad Guys. The only morally grey element of your act is that you may have been paid for it, but otherwise you were on the side of Justice and Freedom.

But read differently, you are asked to bleed for a naive and sheltered Arano princess without the finesse to keep the peace, without the insight to see through her kin's deception, and who has sold out to a foreign power (the matriarchs) ... Against the Directorate, which at least claims to have its own nation's interests at heart, explicitly against the sort of foreign meddling that Arano is party to. Though we are told by them, not shown directly, that the Arano regime was weak and deserving of overthrow, the fact is that the previous Arano king failed to de-escalate tensions with the Espinosa faction, failed to ensure a smooth succession for his heir, failed to prevent a civil war, basically failed at all the important parts of kingship. The player character, depending on the background chose, can also a victim of said misrule, since your family could have been bankrupted by its corruption, murdered bc the lack of rule of law etc.

>2018
>Not supporting women ascending to the head of incompetent hereditary monarchies

Pick one, shitlord.

Great post though. It's genuinely hilarious to see the cognitive dissonance that occurs with these people when they have to construct a Weltanschauung that goes beyond the first principle that 'oppressed class = perfect'. Protagonist is a woman of colour, ergo flawless. Woman of colour is heir to a failing monarchy, ergo monarchy very good indeed. It's the Daenerys phenomenon; your character can basically commit genocide if they tick the correct oppressed class boxes I'm convinced you could write a show about the massacre of white farmers in South Africa from the perspective of a roving rape gang and get thousands of 'The new Netflix show you HAVE to binge this weekend' articles thrown at it.

I spent the first mission wishing that I was playing a game where you could side with the traitorous uncle. A practical man who saw his kingdom mismanaged time and again. When his efforts to improve it were rebuffed; he decided to arrest the decay. He sincerely cares about the kingdom. That's the core of an interesting character. You could juxtapose that against an earnest but immature princess who can command the love of her people (Ashe from FF12 is a good example) and let the player decide whether they like Machiavellianism. Instead, you're railroaded into allying with this petulant 'muh birthright' cardboard cut out.

The plot form the first few missions is very sjw. Wymyn good,people of colour good,islam good,multiculturalism good,foreign propaganda and intervention good,equality and degeneracy good. White people bad,nationalism bad,authoritarianism bad unless ruled by wymyn,pragmatism bad. Ughhh by the end of the tutorial mission i was vomiting rainbows. The next two missions were even worst. It is amusing to see SJWs like Jenkem ,focus only on the pronoun complaints and ignore all the other legit complaints. The good thing is that they don't buy the game.

 

[veevoir]

Hmm.. finally got someone ded and it turns out - apparently this seems to be a recurring theme among the player base. AI hates this guy.

Kudos for kicking the head clean off in melee (on an otherwise untouched mech). Apparently when enemy mechs loses the last weapon - it becomes more dangerous than ever.

 

[Stavrophore]

This game will be a contestant to a biggest crap of 2018. So far i've dropped "kamea to dropship", holy hell what a snoozefest, simpleton shitty gameplay that was, UI doesnt tell much and tries to mimick XCOM failing hard. Select mech, select enemy, bam shits gone. It's like taking a most virulent scab from Total Biscuit anus and making a game around it, with unity engine that is somewhat a hallmark of bad developers.

 

[Jenkem]

The plot form the first few missions is very sjw. Wymyn good,people of colour good,islam good,multiculturalism good,foreign propaganda and intervention good,equality and degeneracy good. White people bad,nationalism bad,authoritarianism bad unless ruled by wymyn,pragmatism bad. Ughhh by the end of the tutorial mission i was vomiting rainbows. The next two missions were even worst. It is amusing to see SJWs like Jenkem ,focus only on the pronoun complaints and ignore all the other legit complaints. The good thing is that they don't buy the game.

Where in the missions are these things? "wymyn good, people of colour good" yes the game features a woman and a person of color that are present in the story, where does the game say they are good solely for their gender or race? Where does it say white people are bad? Where does it say nationalism is bad? Where does it say any of the shit you are claiming it does?

Since you claim this shit to be explicit in the text or dialogue of the game, please provide evidence and examples of these things.. Oh wait, you won't be able to because you are projecting. I dare anyone here to watch the tutorial mission and see if you get as triggered as this moron and start "vomiting rainbows."

You call me an SJW, yet I am not the one constantly projecting my own fears and inadequacies onto a work of fiction and then whining about it in post after post on the internet. Yet here you are, triggered as fuck and spending an exorbitant amount of time perseverating on your own anxiety. Really activates the almonds.

PLOT FROM THE FIRST TWO MISSIONS - You help to escort a political leader, her uncle performs a coup and the forces turn on her and subsequently you. You fight them off as you escort her to a ship. Your mech gets fucked up because it was sabotaged by the insurgents prior to your battle. The ship flies off and is said to be shot down and the leader killed.

Three years later you are part of a merc group, you get hired to do a job, you do the job and the people who hired you double cross you so you destroy them.

wow such SJW wow wow wow I CAN'T EVEN RIGHT NOW!!!!11

 

[PorkBarrellGuy]

dude you're getting triggered by fantadomat

you lose the game, sorry

 

[Cael]

TLDR (for you retards); This is not a RPG, stop expecting RPG stuff from it. It was clear from start this was Xcom with robots.

No. It was clear from the start that it was BTech. HBS billed it as BTech, not XCom. They are completely different games.

Then HBS FUCKED IT UP BECAUSE they wanted to make XCom.

 

[fantadomat]

The plot form the first few missions is very sjw. Wymyn good,people of colour good,islam good,multiculturalism good,foreign propaganda and intervention good,equality and degeneracy good. White people bad,nationalism bad,authoritarianism bad unless ruled by wymyn,pragmatism bad. Ughhh by the end of the tutorial mission i was vomiting rainbows. The next two missions were even worst. It is amusing to see SJWs like Jenkem ,focus only on the pronoun complaints and ignore all the other legit complaints. The good thing is that they don't buy the game.

Where in the missions are these things? "wymyn good, people of colour good" yes the game features a woman and a person of color that are present in the story, where does the game say they are good solely for their gender or race? Where does it say white people are bad? Where does it say nationalism is bad? Where does it say any of the shit you are claiming it does?

Since you claim this shit to be explicit in the text or dialogue of the game, please provide evidence and examples of these things.. Oh wait, you won't be able to because you are projecting. I dare anyone here to watch the tutorial mission and see if you get as triggered as this moron and start "vomiting rainbows."

You call me an SJW, yet I am not the one constantly projecting my own fears and inadequacies onto a work of fiction and then whining about it in post after post on the internet. Yet here you are, triggered as fuck and spending an exorbitant amount of time perseverating on your own anxiety. Really activates the almonds.

Meh,quite the tirade there mate,chill out a little. I do like trolling you,but would feel bad if you pop a vein. Of course it is not written black on white. It is clearly implied by visuals,stature and word selection. Have you even heard the phrase "Read between the lines." ? And yes,i have very low tolerance for SJW scum by now. Believe it or not i was liberal a few years back,but thanks to people like you i have seen the insanity that is liberalism.

Also i am leaving this wikipedia quote for your basic education,i hope that it will help you in your struggle against the evil patriarchy .

Reading comprehension is the ability to process text, understand its meaning, and to integrate it with what the reader already knows. Fundamental skills required in efficient reading comprehension are knowing meaning of words, ability to understand meaning of a word from discourse context, ability to follow organization of passage and to identify antecedents and references in it, ability to draw inferences from a passage about its contents, ability to identify the main thought of a passage, ability to answer questions answered in a passage, ability to recognize the literary devices or propositional structures used in a passage and determine its tone, to understand the situational mood (agents, objects, temporal and spatial reference points, casual and intentional inflections, etc.) conveyed for assertions, questioning, commanding, refraining etc. and finally ability to determine writer's purpose, intent and point of view, and draw inferences about the writer (discourse-semantics)

 

[Infinitron]

It's a mess. In the intro/tutorial, we are shown that the Directorate are cartoon villain usurpers betray their kin with underhanded tactics and replace a more decentralized feudal-vassal setup ("good") with a centralized autocracy ("bad").

Joke: BattleTech is a SJW game where you're made to assist a strong woman against the patriarchy

Woke: BattleTech is a neoreactionary game where you're made to assist the rightful noble heir to the ancien regime against a coup by the Marxist managerial state

 

[fantadomat]

dude you're getting triggered by fantadomat

you lose the game, sorry

Shush you,don't tell him! You are taking away the only entertainment i have from this game.

 

[Cael]

Well some mercenaries were loyal,others were not. As a whole mercs were know for not being trust worthy. Also i am not talking about betrayal,more about switching sides.

That's why Comstar set up the Mercenary Review Board at Galatea and later, Wolf's Dragoons set up their version on Outreach. It is to prevent mercs from going rogue, or at least tell prospective employers about merc units with bad rep.

 

[Cael]

Where in the missions are these things? "wymyn good, people of colour good" yes the game features a woman and a person of color that are present in the story, where does the game say they are good solely for their gender or race? Where does it say white people are bad? Where does it say nationalism is bad? Where does it say any of the shit you are claiming it does?

I am sure that you would be super happy with Hexxat in the BG2:EE game, then. I mean, no way a black lesbian vampire ninja is a special snowflake inserted into a game that had none of the above was done to push a sjw agenda, right? I mean, no one said it directly *nudgenudgewinkwink*

Grow up!

 

[Jenkem]

Continue to call me an SJW with no proof other than your own fallacies. Merely state that the evidence of your argument is "between the lines" (meaning up to your subjective interpretation) and fail to offer any evidence to your position. Instead, you fall back on ad hominem attacks and strawmen, so I have no doubt you are being honest about being a liberal a few years back, since your argumentation skills are in line with such an ilk. And it's awfully rich to hear someone who constantly posts erroneous information after playing a game for five minutes because they can't bother to read tutorials talk about reading comprehension.

 

[fantadomat]

It's a mess. In the intro/tutorial, we are shown that the Directorate are cartoon villain usurpers betray their kin with underhanded tactics and replace a more decentralized feudal-vassal setup ("good") with a centralized autocracy ("bad").

Joke: BattleTech is a SJW game where you're made to assist a strong woman against the patriarchy

Woke: BattleTech is a neoreactionary game where you're made to assist the rightful noble heir to the ancien regime against a coup by the Marxist managerial state

I am really tired of all the politics in games shit. It is pretty obvious when they try to shove some shit in it. I miss games like this:

A game about a black woman cop slide kicking criminals,cults,exploding robots people and demons. Great fun,a lot of exploration and ton of hidden shit. No forced political shit,just fun game.....with terrible ps controls . I really want for the industry to return to making fun games.

 

[KoolNoodles]

Probably going to restart and bump up the difficulty. I think that will help with the feel of managing mercs. Less money, more downed Mechs/Pilots, more rotation of Mechs/Pilots.

what changes do you have in mind?

Gonna try modding contracts to allow for more enemy mechs, possibly.

Found somebody did this, so who knows. Just gonna look inside and see what I can tweak.

MaxContractsPerSystem

ContractRenewalPerWeek

in the SimGameConstants.json file, I set it to 10 and I get 10 contracts.

That seems like it would make the game easier, not harder. You get more options to pick and choose from instead of being forced to pick between bad options.

Was more pointing out if they can change that with some text editing then perhaps I can fiddle with other stuff just as easy.

 

[Jenkem]

I am sure that you would be super happy with Hexxat in the BG2:EE game, then. I mean, no way a black lesbian vampire ninja is a special snowflake inserted into a game that had none of the above was done to push a sjw agenda, right? I mean, no one said it directly *nudgenudgewinkwink*

Grow up!

Why can't you edgelords just give evidence to your argument and behave rationally instead of getting all emotional?

Grow up.

 

[Cael]

The fact that he calls the Taurian Concordant a "noble regime" is hilarious. The Calderon family is noted for its psycho leader with a sjw-style hate for Davion, and the entire Concordant is noted for its xenophobia with regards to the Inner Sphere (Davion in particular, see a theme?).

In other words, they are the classic insular bigots of the setting, the small Mid-West town who looks upon furringners with suspicion and loathing. "Noble regime", my ass.

 

[Cael]

I am sure that you would be super happy with Hexxat in the BG2:EE game, then. I mean, no way a black lesbian vampire ninja is a special snowflake inserted into a game that had none of the above was done to push a sjw agenda, right? I mean, no one said it directly *nudgenudgewinkwink*

Grow up!

Why can't you edgelords just give evidence to your argument and behave rationally instead of getting all emotional?

Grow up.

I think we have found mnkgrll's Codex partner: I am refuting your irrefutable facts, nigga. What'chu gonna do about that? Holy shit, the self-defence mechanisms! (while ignoring the evidence presented)

 

[fantadomat]

Continue to call me an SJW with no proof other than your own fallacies. Merely state that the evidence of your argument is "between the lines" (meaning up to your subjective interpretation) and fail to offer any evidence to your position. Instead, you fall back on ad hominem attacks and strawmen, so I have no doubt you are being honest about being a liberal a few years back, since your argumentation skills are in line with such an ilk. And it's awfully rich to hear someone who constantly posts erroneous information after playing a game for five minutes because they can't bother to read tutorials talk about reading comprehension.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you are still butthurt about that shit "Surviving mars" . Well some games are not worth more than a few hours of my life,there is no need to finish a game to know what are its cones and props. Also who the fuck needs tutorial for such simple games?! Oh and i finished both frostpunk and Surviving mars. I must say that i really felt bad for the SV game,after all it was made by Bulgarians and i am kind a nationalist . But the game is not good,even steam reviews agree with me,it is like concept demo.

From my point of view you are doing the strawman magic. You talk about something that is pretty obvious and say that if it is not written black on white,then it is not true. What evidence do you need? A dialogue option that reads something like "Kill all white men because they are authoritarian scourge on our galaxy!"? Get real mate and stop beating around the bush! So are you telling me that YOU don't see any progressive liberal advocacy in this game??? And please don't dodge the question,it is a simple yeas or no one,don't be like glorious reptilian cyborg Zucky.

 

[KoolNoodles]

Lance got a little dinged up.

Spoiler

 

[KoolNoodles]

I think what the game also needs now, after playing a bit, is a sense of urgency. The money/loan for storyline/management stuff is all fine, but you can also sit in a system for a month to heal up/repair with no consequences other than a bill. And money is easy enough to come by as long as missions aren't disasters.

Like in NuXcom there's the threat of the game ending if you just sit there and do nothing. This game needs something like that, even if it is just harsher financials.

 

[Jenkem]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA you are still butthurt about that shit "Surviving mars" . Well some games are not worth more than a few hours of my life,there is no need to finish a game to know what are its cones and props. Also who the fuck needs tutorial for such simple games?! Oh and i finished both frostpunk and Surviving mars. I must say that i really felt bad for the SV game,after all it was made by Bulgarians and i am kind a nationalist . But the game is not good,even steam reviews agree with me,it is like concept demo.

From my point of view you are doing the strawman magic. You talk about something that is pretty obvious and say that if it is not written black on white,then it is not true. What evidence do you need? A dialogue option that reads something like "Kill all white men because they are authoritarian scourge on our galaxy!"? Get real mate and stop beating around the bush! So are you telling me that YOU don't see any progressive liberal advocacy in this game??? And please don't dodge the question,it is a simple yeas or no one,don't be like glorious reptilian cyborg Zucky.

1. Me using evidence of your poor reading comprehension is not me being "butthurt." Again, you disregard any rational explanation and delve head first into emotions. Typical SJW trait.

2. Yes there is some progressive liberal advocacy in the game, it is made by HBS. The thing is though even though I disagree with stuff, I don't cry and get all emotional about it because I'm not a cuck who cries when he catches feels over politics in a video game.

 

[Cael]

[/spoiler]

When I see people put so many things in the CT (6 med lasers from another screenshot before), all I can think of is "crit padding". There is a good reason why the CT has a special TAC and that you can only put 2 slots worth of items in it (disabling via gyro and engine hits become easier than coring or going nova). This is another HBS fuck up, which necessitated more patching to the changes to balance out.

 

[Cael]

I think what the game also needs now, after playing a bit, is a sense of urgency. The money/loan for storyline/management stuff is all fine, but you can also sit in a system for a month to heal up/repair with no consequences other than a bill. And money is easy enough to come by as long as missions aren't disasters.

Like in NuXcom there's the threat of the game ending if you just sit there and do nothing. This game needs something like that, even if it is just harsher financials.

Unfortunately there's no easy way to implement a time limit or deadline, and increasing loan interest is just grindy. What the game really needs to tighten up the economy is for the tactical combat to get brutal. At default settings the AI is actually crippled against you and only challenge comes from facing bigger mechs in bigger numbers. Making the AI both ruthless and interesting to play against seems a bit tricky, though.

Well, the problem is the whole salvage thing.

3 pieces for 1 'mech fully built is ludicrously generous. If you make it so that players had to BUY 'mechs (costing millions, natch, not just a few hundred k) rather than easily salvaging them to the point of never needing to buy, then you start cooking with gas. Then you add in a MARKETPLACE style list of what 'mechs you can buy. One day, you can buy an Atlas, the next day, someone has bought it and it is gone. You are left with a Centurion. One day you might have a couple of LosTech SRM2-Inferno launchers on sale, but if you dither, they are gone. Too bad, so sad. On another day, the price of PPCs go through the roof or becomes non-available due to a defect and factory recall of said PPCs. This is something that MW2M did back in the day. When MW does something better than what is supposedly a TT game, YOU'VE DONE THINGS WRONG!

C-Bills represent a constraint on the merc unit that should be utilised to the full. Forget loans and interests and things like that. Just make it so that you have to husband what you have for fear of losing what you've got. Stop throwing cash at the players and then TELLING players that, yes, the game is easy. They just have to mod it to make it harder. WTF is with that kind of shit?