Aliens: Colonial Marines

[Wirdschowerdn]

http://www.destructoid.com/developer-gearbox-lied-to-sega-2k-over-colonial-marines-245986.phtml

Gearbox lied to both Sega and 2K.

Spoiler

 

[Zewp]

Lol.

 

[bonescraper]

From the comments:

This was before the big art style change happened on Borderlands

You mean before they stole the art style from Codehunters

http://savenload.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/borderlands-more-than-inspired-by-codehunters/

Wow, Gearbox, just wow...

 

[dnf]

Simon Ludgate​

19 Feb 2013 at 8:06 am PST​

"Nobody wants to enter a room of breathless, hopeful people who clearly represent an entire team of hardworking people and be the jerk asking the hard questions. Why would you want to be that jerk so early in the dev process? What's the point?"​

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I would. I would totally be that guy. The guy that calls their bluff and pokes holes in their curtains. The guy that calls their bluff. The guy that makes them realize that the idea they thought was so good might not be so good after all. The guy probing for problems when there's still a shred of hope of being able to fix them. The guy asking the hard questions that makes them stop and realize "we didn't think about that..." Yeah, I'd gladly be that guy.​

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Jay Anne​

19 Feb 2013 at 9:19 am PST​

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They wouldnt invite you again.​

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Because a invitation is better than personal ethics right​

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Also, article is written by the dumb bitch Leigh Alexander. She probaly is too busy riding the publisher cock to care about ethics​

 

[Average Manatee]

It's like when you've noticed your boss doing something illegal but start rationalizing why there's no reason for you to do anything about it since you'll just get fired and not change anything.

 

[Psquit]

It's like when you've noticed your boss doing something illegal but start rationalizing why there's no reason for you to do anything about it since you'll just get fired and not change anything.

or killed... just saying.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

http://www.destructoid.com/developer-gearbox-lied-to-sega-2k-over-colonial-marines-245986.phtml

Gearbox lied to both Sega and 2K.

http://www.destructoid.com/gearbox-looking-at-an-explanation-for-colonial-marines-245968.phtml

 

[Hamziz]

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations."
-George Orwell, Original Codexian

 

[dnf]

 

[Zewp]

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations."
-George Orwell, Original Codexian

Publishers and developers should be licking journalists' asses in the hopes they don't slam their games, not the other way around.

 

[Dexter]

Publishers and developers should be licking journalists' asses in the hopes they don't slam their games, not the other way around.

Well, they're all a bunch of docile bitches who are at the beck and call of their publisher overlords (literally, they get called to events and shit and get the trip and food paid and they go there). Another egregious circumstance is all this "embargo" crap. If they'd all collectively take a shit on it and write what they want when they want all the publishers and developers would have no power over them, instead they're all being docile sheep signing contracts not to mention certain things in their Previews/Reviews and wait dutifully for the publisher-set "embargo" to drop, even when they know something is utter shit and they should warn people about it.

 

[DalekFlay]

It really all boils down to desperately wanting access to the games at the same time everyone else does because they assume (probably correctly) no one wants to read late reviews/previews.

 

[DemonKing]

Let's be honest - the chances of making an Aliens game that actually satisfied the fanbase is probably not worth taking the risk. The whole point of the original Alien (and to a lesser extent the sequels) was that the fear of the Aliens was because they were never fully revealed. Now they've been so over exposed in movies, games, comics etc that it is impossible to actually scare people with them any more.

I haven't played ACM but I can't help thinking that they knew it was a stinker, but pooped it out anyway in the knowledge that a lot of people would preorder on the basis of hype and they could make their money anyway even though they're burning the fans in the process. Short-term I guess this seemed like good buisness sense but hopefully it will mean people will be a lot more circumspect in commiting cash to any future Gearbox titles until the reviews are out.

 

[RK47]

....what? AvP proved it can be done.
Now with all the benefits of modern grafix tech, it's all down to the devs to do the 'non tech' part of the game which meant gameplay and art design like animation.
So yeah. What the fuck happened? Incompetence.

 

[Oesophagus]

Publishers and developers should be licking journalists' asses in the hopes they don't slam their games, not the other way around.

To be fair in this instance, the demo that was shown really looked much better than the released game, so I wouldn't put this one on the journo's backs.

Not saying that journos and devs aren't one big circlejerk though

 

[Zewp]

It really all boils down to desperately wanting access to the games at the same time everyone else does because they assume (probably correctly) no one wants to read late reviews/previews.

Yeah, but if the entire gaming journalism scene simply stood up and decided to stop adhering to publishers' every whim and actually gave reviews accurate scores, it would be a month at most and the entire power balance would have shifted. Journalists would hold all the power over publishers while publishers tried their utmost best to keep them happy.

Yet that probably won't happen. Ever.

 

[RK47]

If the entire gaming journalism doesn't revolve around publishers' ads on their rags to pay their staff and continued existence, yeah, maybe.

 

[DalekFlay]

Yeah, but if the entire gaming journalism scene simply stood up and decided to stop adhering to publishers' every whim and actually gave reviews accurate scores, it would be a month at most and the entire power balance would have shifted. Journalists would hold all the power over publishers while publishers tried their utmost best to keep them happy.

Yet that probably won't happen. Ever.

That will happen at the same time as citizens in democracies band together to give a shit and vote in real people rather than corporate mouthpieces.

 

[Konjad]

It really all boils down to desperately wanting access to the games at the same time everyone else does because they assume (probably correctly) no one wants to read late reviews/previews.

Yeah, but if the entire gaming journalism scene simply stood up and decided to stop adhering to publishers' every whim and actually gave reviews accurate scores, it would be a month at most and the entire power balance would have shifted. Journalists would hold all the power over publishers while publishers tried their utmost best to keep them happy.

Yet that probably won't happen. Ever.

If there's one species of a tree in forest (and usually even if there are many different) they are of the same height.
Trees would actually benefit from being short, because they would waste less resources growing so tall and having to keep alive more of their body. However they are high and waste these resources.
If a tree in a forest grows taller than the rest, other trees surrounding it have to do as well, to survive, creating a butterfly effect, after some time the whole forest will be higher. In the end no one will have gained anything, everyone lose having to use more resources.
If a tree grows shorter than the rest of the trees, it will die because of lack of the sunlight.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations."
-George Orwell, Original Codexian

Publishers and developers should be licking journalists' asses in the hopes they don't slam their games, not the other way around.

Journalists need readers. Oh, you're an angry cunt? No exclusive interview / preview copy / early access for you!

 

[evdk]

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed: everything else is public relations."
-George Orwell, Original Codexian

Publishers and developers should be licking journalists' asses in the hopes they don't slam their games, not the other way around.

Journalists need readers. Oh, you're an angry cunt? No exclusive interview / preview copy / early access for you!

If the world was sane, you would actually be able to live off writing brutally honest reviews without taking part in any pre release theatrics.

 

[Jick Magger]

 

[villain of the story]

Hey, it is not a gun! It is a Cosmonaut Assistance Tool.

It also has a floppy drive on top of it:

Aww it's a floppy disk at 0:33, would be cute if it weren't on a FUTURE SPACE STATION LOL.

It's an 80s retro-futuristic game.

 

[ohWOW]

It assists you. With bullets.

 

[villain of the story]

Let's be honest - the chances of making an Aliens game that actually satisfied the fanbase is probably not worth taking the risk. The whole point of the original Alien (and to a lesser extent the sequels) was that the fear of the Aliens was because they were never fully revealed. Now they've been so over exposed in movies, games, comics etc that it is impossible to actually scare people with them any more.

I haven't played ACM but I can't help thinking that they knew it was a stinker, but pooped it out anyway in the knowledge that a lot of people would preorder on the basis of hype and they could make their money anyway even though they're burning the fans in the process. Short-term I guess this seemed like good buisness sense but hopefully it will mean people will be a lot more circumspect in commiting cash to any future Gearbox titles until the reviews are out.

Typical ignorant argument. See zombies for an analogue. "Fear of the unknown" doesn't necessarily mean "not knowing who or what the threat is", it is the unknown and unpredictable results born from the fear.

 

[Zewp]

If there's one species of a tree in forest (and usually even if there are many different) they are of the same height.
Trees would actually benefit from being short, because they would waste less resources growing so tall and having to keep alive more of their body. However they are high and waste these resources.
If a tree in a forest grows taller than the rest, other trees surrounding it have to do as well, to survive, creating a butterfly effect, after some time the whole forest will be higher. In the end no one will have gained anything, everyone lose having to use more resources.
If a tree grows shorter than the rest of the trees, it will die because of lack of the sunlight.

And what if all the trees simultaneously starter growing shorter? That's what I'm getting at. If all journalists were to make an effort at no longer being shills, publishers would have no choice but to accept the reversed role of power.

But that will never happen because game journalists are not critics and they are not interested in being critics.

 

[Konjad]

If there's one species of a tree in forest (and usually even if there are many different) they are of the same height.
Trees would actually benefit from being short, because they would waste less resources growing so tall and having to keep alive more of their body. However they are high and waste these resources.
If a tree in a forest grows taller than the rest, other trees surrounding it have to do as well, to survive, creating a butterfly effect, after some time the whole forest will be higher. In the end no one will have gained anything, everyone lose having to use more resources.
If a tree grows shorter than the rest of the trees, it will die because of lack of the sunlight.

And what if all the trees simultaneously starter growing shorter? That's what I'm getting at. If all journalists were to make an effort at no longer being shills, publishers would have no choice but to accept the reversed role of power.

What if magical rainbow ponies arrived and fixed any wrongdoing in the world? There would be no more evil or harm done ever again and we would live happy life.