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3ds/2ds worth the money?

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What the title says. I read that Nintendo has now build a 2ds, essentially a cheaper version of the 3ds without 3d and without the option to close the thing.

Is it worth the money? I'm not into pokemon so the new one would not be a selling point for me, but I get extremly bored at work and thought for the way to work and the boring times there a handheld would be great.

Now I am not sure if there are enough good games, and whats coming up in the next months. Also, I've seen there is a 3ds with a much bigger Screen. So the question is, is the system worth it, and If should I go for the normal one the big one or the new 2d one. The price difference for me between 3d and 2d would be around 40 euros.
 

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The screen is quite small, but it's also cheaper...
PSP with custom firmware (For PSX games, emulators, etc.) it's still the best option for me. 3DS XL is still too expensive, 3DS and 2DS screen is too small, and sadly, Vita doesn't have games... :(
 

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2DS looks kinda retarded since it's not a clamshell and the screens are going to get fucked hard because of this. A 3DS/XL isn't that much more expensive so I'd go with that.
 

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3ds xl has best battery time, then 2ds and the normal 3ds being the worst of the three. 2ds has the best picture quality, 3ds xl is the most pleasant to hold (imo). 3ds and 3ds xl have some additional peripherals for games that won't fit on the 2ds and are unlikely to ever come out for it.
if you are into dungeon crawlers or puzzles, get one and if you run out of 3ds games just play the old ds games on it... if you don't care for those, get a psp with custom firmware instead.
 

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Do you live in NA or Japan?

The thing is region locked and there are a bunch of good games that aren't released in Europe.
 

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I owned most *DS iterations for some reason. Still not sure why. It sucks. The only worthy games to come out on *DS since 2004 were GTA: Chinatown Wars, Ghost Recon RTS, and the Resident Evil one, because it is full-featured, but controls are awful, no matter how you map them.

The rest of the software lineup has been shovelware, weeaboo crap, hipster crap, and so-called "hardcore RPGs", which are really tedious dungeon crawlers where you have to draw your own map because they didn't want to code too much.

well its a nintendo handheld, If I ha a problem with weaboo crap I wouldnt have asked.


I live in europe, so most games I would buy would be eu. Any specific very good games which are not released here?
 

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Well, the good games get a huge delay at best and are not released at worst.

But yes, if you like crpgs (unlike shihonage), then DS consoles are probably the best platform for them in the last decade, so well worth it. The weaboo art direction is a shame, but what the hell, we are not in the nineties any more, can't be too picky.
 

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Good (old) NDS games:
Devil Survivor 1 & 2 (weeboo character design, good battles later, some grinding necessary. Storyline sucks)
Ghost Trick (weeboo character design, nicely ploted)
Radiant Historia (degenerates into a standard jrpg storyline after a promising start though)
Castlevania Order of Ecclesia and the other two i guess
Shin Meganami Tensei Strange Journey is just a bog standard entry in the series, if you played it before you know what to expect. Devil survivor has the same kind of blob combat, but you know, better, since it uses a tactical layer.

VP covenant of the plume was unbearable faginess from the intro so i didn't end up playing it.

You can emulate all of these.
 

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Yeah if you enjoy JRPGs with 5-year-old protagonists speaking bloken Engrish, the DS will be right up your alley.
I have to question your sanity here, because if this is your opinion then buying several iterations of the console are not the actions of a man with his mental faculties intact.

Good (old) NDS games:
Ghost Trick (weeboo character design, nicely ploted)
I would not call the character design weeaboo at all, it seemed the character portraits have a lot of western influences. Also if you would enjoy Ghost Trick, you might go for the Ace Attorney games as well (coincidentally the newest installment is out just now for 3DS), but only if you can take dodgy logic.
 

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Ghost Trick was interesting as a game, even if painfully simplistic. The first and only Ace Attorney game i tried appeared to consist of a series of CYOA parodies of cross-examination with a single solution, nothx. Besides, it appears consensual on the 'internet' that ghost trick has better plotting than any Ace Attorney.

BTW, when i said you 'could' emulate, i actually meant 'should' since the DS screen is a pathetic thing and increasing it to a larger screen (especially on a complicated game like Devil Survivor 2) is much better (although the resolution sucks of course)

PSP on the other hand, compares favorably to PSX and even PS2 with some direct ports.
 
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If you are going to be playing 3DS games, you should get a XL, as they look much better there (the XL's pixels are the same size as the DS/lite)
 

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Yeah if you enjoy JRPGs with 5-year-old protagonists speaking bloken Engrish, the DS will be right up your alley.
Like I said, if you enjoy actual crpgs (which you don't necessarily do considering your previous "opinion", nothing to be ashamed of) and would like to try something else than pre-2000 PC games for the n-th time then you can't really do better than DS. But keep denying the obvious, makes much sense.

Good (old) NDS games:

Good list, though I didn't necessarily enjoy all of these.

My two main recommendation would be:

Etrian Odyssey - these are imo the best rpgs in the last couple of years after KotC. I know that doesn't really say much, but let me tell you, if only they made them with decent art direction and better inventory system they'd be right up there. III and IV are great, I and II are worth trying, though they are a bit unpolished and broken in some ways. There is a 3ds remake of I which is supposed to be pretty good (if you ignore the retarded story mode), but it's one of those games that has a good chance of never being released in EU.

Dark Spire - nice little retro rpg for Wizardry fans. This one has a surprisingly good art too and an amusing optional "totally eighties" graphic mode. Definitely a better attempt at "blast from the past" than what all Kickstarters managed to put up so far.
 
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I liked Contra DS a lot, too. Utilizing 2 screens takes some getting used to, but it felt to me like a legitimate Contra game through and through. It had a lot of challenge modes, as well, which could keep you playing for awihle.
 

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Also, fuck Zelda. Another nostalgic throwback geared toward little children stuck in adults' bodies.

You mean 90% of the modern world?

What would you consider an "adult" video game? (inb4Codexporngames)
 

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Go play your MANLY AWESHUM Xbawks shooters shihonage, clearly you don't belong in this sub-forum and only ever owned a Nintendo console due massive overflow of money or lack of self-control when facing hype.
 

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Bah, I actually didn't notice there was JRPG subforum. It's inappropriate to harp on a JRPG console in a JRPG forum. Posts deleted.
 

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shihonage said:
DragoFireheart said:
What would you consider an "adult" video game? (inb4Codexporngames)

It's a trap. But I can tell you why I consider Zelda to be a kids' game. Asides from the fact that it's obviously made for kids.

a) you play a kid
b) I don't have a problem with fairy/tale fantasy world when they're well-realized, by Zelda's worlds are primitive theme parks where everyone speaks Simple English, like in a kids' book
c) partially derived from b) - there are no "characters" per se, just kiosk vendors with awkward lines
d) there's nothing in general to ignite interest or imagination of someone who has read more than just the books about friendly elephants and Dora The Explorer

"Adult themes" are a red herring. I don't care for adult themes, nor do I think they magically create "grown-up content" - God knows there are many laughable attempts to do so - but I do care that a game doesn't assume that I have the brain function and life experience of a 9 year-old.
:bro:

Valid points. Still - despite being "kids' games", Zelda games are mostly awesome gameplay & atmosphere - wise.

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Hijacking this topic, Ive been thinking about getting a handheld console so i could play something during long boring train/car trips or/and in work. Thinking about 3DS but would the XL version work outside of home usage too or am i better off getting the basic 3DS for that?
 

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Hijacking this topic, Ive been thinking about getting a handheld console so i could play something during long boring train/car trips or/and in work. Thinking about 3DS but would the XL version work outside of home usage too or am i better off getting the basic 3DS for that?
I think the XL version has the best battery life actually.
 

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Hijacking this topic, Ive been thinking about getting a handheld console so i could play something during long boring train/car trips or/and in work. Thinking about 3DS but would the XL version work outside of home usage too or am i better off getting the basic 3DS for that?
xl is better at everything than non-xl. for both ds and 3ds.
other than fitting into small and tight pockets, that is.
 

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XL does have a longer battery life. It's non-terrible if you turn off the wireless/3d and dim the screen.
 

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XL is the definitive version of the 3DS. The only downside is that Nintendo doesn't believe in antialiasing, and pixelation becomes noticeable.
 

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Fire Emblem: Awakening is more then enough to justify the purchase. You want the XL because it has a clamshell, a nice sized screen, and the best battery life.
 

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