Vault Dweller said:
DarkUnderlord said:
Curious to know, you really think Warden's thread is that bad?
Well, let's see... Warden thinks that rpg means role-playing the main character, then he says that you can't role-play someone really, then he says that lawful good means this person isn't allowed to do "bad things", and his conclusion is that the notion of role-playing is idiotic. Yes, DU, I think it's that bad. I think that stupid shit like that should be deleted instantly.
... because we've always wanted a Codex love-in where everyone pats each other on the back for coming up with another awesome definition of what an RPG is? You tear out the retards (read: majority of the world) who come here arguing that Doom is an RPG, and you tear out the heart and soul of this place, the very reason for its existence. The Codex was always about "having it out", standing your ground and fighting to the bitter end and making the retarded majority of "RPG players" in the world look like exactly what they are. Truth is, you just forgot that in your ever increasing vendetta to remove everyone who had an opinion you disagreed with. And because arguing with them wasn't working (see influx of retards during the Oblivion-era), you resorted to abuse of powers. Yup, that's what I really think. I wouldn't have minded if it was the odd one here and there you wanted to nix after a good, decent discussion but you wanted to go nuclear and take out all the bystanders as well. As you said "stupid shit like that should be
deleted instantly".
Vault Dweller said:
I agree. Forums that have
Let's Play threads are such unintelligent, backwater places.
Sick burn, DU. I'm bleeding inside as we speak. Well, first, the IT forums are forums of an unreleased indie game. Not sure where the expectations are coming from as it's the most backwaterest of all backwater places. We do have a few decent discussions going, but I doubt that any time soon people start referring to our forums as the place to have intelligent discussions about RPGs. You know, like they talked about the Codex in the past.
Actually most forums dissed the Codex. This is why I don't buy the whole "the good ol' days" argument that crops up. There never where any good old days. The good old days were when the Codex was derided by the mainstream because the mainstream don't get what an RPG is. That mainstream still don't get it. That's why the mainstream come here with their "stupid shit" and start threads or arguments about it. It's why we argue back. The only real thing we're going through now is a lull because there isn't a big mainstream RPG to bash. This site was built on bashing Morrowind, Oblivion and the other mainstream games of the day, which attracted an audience of retards (see Oblivion-era) which we then "educated" in our own unique way. If you really think that now, that's all just "stupid shit" and there's no point for discussion, instead that stuff needs to be deleted instantly, well then we may as well shut-down the Codex, stick up some long-winded article about what an RPG is in its place and be done with it.
Vault Dweller said:
Second, our let's play thread is different. It's a let's play thread of a game in development. It shows gameplay elements to people and generate feedback and suggestions, which, quite obviously, isn't the case with the FF7 thread, for example.
The let's play thread here isn't a problem. Nor is yours. I really don't care what the difference is. It's a thread that people are enjoying. Who cares if it's only here "for the lulz"? Half of what we do (insulting mainstream retards) is "for the lulz".
Vault Dweller said:
Here's the thing, I don't. I've been around enough forums to know that it's the retards who start most of the discussion. Funny I know, but true.
Saying that it's true doesn't make it so. Active posters start most threads. If active posters are mostly retards, then you are right. If they aren't, then you are wrong. Simple as that.
Why do you think Oblivion generated so much discussion? Because of its in-depth RPG design and how much we loved the game as a Real RPG? Nope. It's because the forum was flooded with retards arguing how much of a decent RPG it is, while we batted them about with blunt objects. Why do you think Andhaira's threads hit page 5? Because he's an intelligent person capable of having reasonable discussion and everyone is so over-whelmingly in support of his views that he needs to be congratulated? No, it's because everyone's chewing him up and spitting him out for his asinine "rat diplomacy". Without a difference of opinion, there is no debate. Without debate, the Codex will be full of single page threads where someone posts another fantastic piece on why Fallout is the greatest game ever and eveyrone else posts "Oh sir, I do so agree with your opinion. Let us have some tea and scones". Sounds like a boring fucking Codex to me.
Vault Dweller said:
Saint_Proverbius said:
I think stupid shit like that should be put on display as a testament of how NOT to think.
Link to this display.
No different to
this display of intelligent RPG discussion. Doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have any similar discussions ever again, just because we've already got a forum over-flowing with it.
Vault Dweller said:
Saint Proverbius said:
Vault Dweller said:
Well, in the good ol' days Andhaira wouldn't last a day, would he?
Volourn?
Volourn was knowledgeable and he could argue and present his thoughts in an intelligent manner.
http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=9043
http://rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=114445
http://forums.obsidianent.com/lofiversi ... 37406.html
No comparison.
sheek, bryce777, Sarvis, The Walkin' Dude, Warden, Mr. Van_Buren... Take your pick. The only people who did leave "after a day" (usually it was more about two weeks) were the fly-by-nighters who usually only came here defending their own article in the news forum.
Calis said:
Likely, since I never used the fucker I'm pretty sure I didn't come up with it. The thing DU implemented was actually pretty slick though, since it was also entirely client-side CSS "hide the div with the post" business.
Yeah, I had to re-work the forum layout to do that though. Instead of all posts being a row within one big table, each post is its own individual stand-alone table so that I could hide it without messing things up. It didn't seem to like divs in-between table row tags. It's why when someone posts a fat ass image now, it only breaks the width of that single post and not every post in the thread (which I see as a positive upside).
I don't know what direction Saint's going to take the Codex now that he's back but I trust it'll be a good one that won't involve some kind of apocalypse. I've known Saint long enough to trust that he has good judgement, so we'll see. Mind you that was an awesome ignore feature. It'll be sad to see it go.
