MajorMace
Self-Ejected
You seem upset.
>HEH, guys, I just watched *youtube eceleb/twitch streamer/esports nerd* ABSOLUTELY DUNK on WC3R! What an EPIC FAIL game! *sips soylent*
I think Diablo 4 is their last chance
I think Diablo 4 is their last chance
i mean its one thing to go back to a violent husband but youre talking about going back to a husband who murdered you cut you into pieces and buried them in a dark unknown wood somewhere in Chechnya
>HEH, guys, I just watched *youtube eceleb/twitch streamer/esports nerd* ABSOLUTELY DUNK on WC3R! What an EPIC FAIL game! *sips soylent*
I think Diablo 4 is their last chance.
Bruh...
Yeah. I really liked Wings of Liberty, and I think all of sc2 is pretty great, but it's also clear that blizzard will probably never make another RTS. And they haven't really done anything new since (somewhat generously) warcraft3, since then it's all been retreads or copies of other popular genres. It's taken an admirably long time tbh, but it seems they really are just a walking husk at this point.Even then, it was already a shit company, nothing compared to their halcyon days.
Yeah. I really liked Wings of Liberty
Yes. It was absolutely awful. But the gameplay was super good. I revisited starcraft and warcraft 3 last year however and I have to say that while they were clearly better, they're not exactly great stories either. I don't think blizzard writing holds up in general (I have not revisited anything earlier than starcraft though or D2, so ymmv).Wings of Liberty was hilarious in how bad the story was
Yes. It was absolutely awful. But the gameplay was super good. I revisited starcraft and warcraft 3 last year however and I have to say that while they were clearly better, they're not exactly great stories either. I don't think blizzard writing holds up in general (I have not revisited anything earlier than starcraft though or D2, so ymmv).Wings of Liberty was hilarious in how bad the story was
Yes. It was absolutely awful. But the gameplay was super good. I revisited starcraft and warcraft 3 last year however and I have to say that while they were clearly better, they're not exactly great stories either. I don't think blizzard writing holds up in general (I have not revisited anything earlier than starcraft though or D2, so ymmv).Wings of Liberty was hilarious in how bad the story was
SC1 original storyline was pretty good. It went downhill with Brood Wars.
Yes. It was absolutely awful. But the gameplay was super good. I revisited starcraft and warcraft 3 last year however and I have to say that while they were clearly better, they're not exactly great stories either. I don't think blizzard writing holds up in general (I have not revisited anything earlier than starcraft though or D2, so ymmv).Wings of Liberty was hilarious in how bad the story was
SC1 original storyline was pretty good. It went downhill with Brood Wars.
Eh, Brood War gave us UED, for the betterment of Mankind. I'm willing to forgive them the low points of the story.
Does anybody even care about Blizzard anymore? They squandered all the good will they had a while now.
I remember talking about it with my cousin in the early 2000s. To us, Blizzard delivered perfect games with incredible production value and could do no wrong.
Today: pfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.
Its just another brand name now.
UED arc was extremely stupid. They appeared out of nowhere like some sort of Deus Ex Machina without any hint or foreshadowing. For some reason they used (almost) the same technology as their wayward bumpkin colonies despite decades of separation. Finally, they conveniently disappeared and never bothered anyone anymore. If they were watching the Koprulu colonies so closely, shouldn't they react in some way to the fact that they were attacked by a race of Ctulhus from another dimension?
UED arc was extremely stupid. They appeared out of nowhere like some sort of Deus Ex Machina without any hint or foreshadowing. For some reason they used (almost) the same technology as their wayward bumpkin colonies despite decades of separation. Finally, they conveniently disappeared and never bothered anyone anymore. If they were watching the Koprulu colonies so closely, shouldn't they react in some way to the fact that they were attacked by a race of Ctulhus from another dimension?
According to the timeline it was hundreds of years since the separation between the Terran colonization force and the UED, along with the fact that much of the Terran tech and units are described as improvised, so yeah that's a big problem. But the UED not returning is probably because of the travel time, it'd take decades for a new force to arrive and the entire SC1/2 timeline has to be squished into like 5 years because Blizzard wants to keep all the same characters around looking and acting pretty much the same.
The UED is in kind of an odd place though. The Terrans were just a small colonization sent out made up of convicts (ala Australia) 250 years ago with no further support. And despite this not-Australia being constantly dividing and in civil war with itself it manages to stand up to the fully powerful zerg and protoss forces. You'd expect the united force of earth and its normal colonies (not the one-off convict colonization mission involving a few thousand people sent across the galaxy basically done as a vault-tec level prank/social experiment) to be monstrously powerful and be able to roll in and swat the protoss and zerg like a fly. Granted they already almost did that with the UED fleet (and were doing it until basically everyone decided to help Kerrigan), but there's no indication that they couldn't be sending a much bigger one next.
It's also kind of funny that the Protoss and Zerg are just contained within a small sector of space while as far as we know the UED is the actual galaxy-spanning civilization that could be fighting any number of other races completely unmentioned in Starcraft.
According to the timeline it was hundreds of years since the separation between the Terran colonization force and the UED, along with the fact that much of the Terran tech and units are described as improvised, so yeah that's a big problem. But the UED not returning is probably because of the travel time, it'd take decades for a new force to arrive and the entire SC1/2 timeline has to be squished into like 5 years because Blizzard wants to keep all the same characters around looking and acting pretty much the same.
I don't really but the travel time argument. The zerg only become known to humanity with the events of SC1 afaik, and the UED's mission in the korprulu sector is mostly to nip that threat in the bud. And the timeskip between sc1 and bw is really short. And yeah, UED not showing up at any point in sc2 is pretty weird too, but if you are expecting canonical consistency from blizzard you're never going to avoid disappointment.As for sending a second fleet, yeah, time. The original fleet personnel had to use cryo-sleep to get to Koprulu.
According to the timeline it was hundreds of years since the separation between the Terran colonization force and the UED, along with the fact that much of the Terran tech and units are described as improvised, so yeah that's a big problem. But the UED not returning is probably because of the travel time, it'd take decades for a new force to arrive and the entire SC1/2 timeline has to be squished into like 5 years because Blizzard wants to keep all the same characters around looking and acting pretty much the same.I don't really but the travel time argument. The zerg only become known to humanity with the events of SC1 afaik, and the UED's mission in the korprulu sector is mostly to nip that threat in the bud. And the timeskip between sc1 and bw is really short. And yeah, UED not showing up at any point in sc2 is pretty weird too, but if you are expecting canonical consistency from blizzard you're never going to avoid disappointment.As for sending a second fleet, yeah, time. The original fleet personnel had to use cryo-sleep to get to Koprulu.
According to the timeline it was hundreds of years since the separation between the Terran colonization force and the UED, along with the fact that much of the Terran tech and units are described as improvised, so yeah that's a big problem. But the UED not returning is probably because of the travel time, it'd take decades for a new force to arrive and the entire SC1/2 timeline has to be squished into like 5 years because Blizzard wants to keep all the same characters around looking and acting pretty much the same.I don't really but the travel time argument. The zerg only become known to humanity with the events of SC1 afaik, and the UED's mission in the korprulu sector is mostly to nip that threat in the bud. And the timeskip between sc1 and bw is really short. And yeah, UED not showing up at any point in sc2 is pretty weird too, but if you are expecting canonical consistency from blizzard you're never going to avoid disappointment.As for sending a second fleet, yeah, time. The original fleet personnel had to use cryo-sleep to get to Koprulu.
In one dialogue Mengsk claims to have seen some Zerg a year before the events of the first campaign, which may or may not be a lie. However, humans in Koprulu became aware of a massive invasion only at the time of the original Terran campaign. This rules out a long delay between the UED sending their fleet and its arrival in the sector. At best, the "long cold sleep" mentioned by the adjutant in the first briefing in the Brood War Terran campaign was no longer than a few months.
Zerg main objetive was Protoss' homeworld, not Koprulu sector. Humans only became a side project for Overmind because of Ghost project and them starting to dabble into psi tech. And not even important side project, because once Overmind stumbled upon knowledge of Auir's location, it immediately moved most of his race to capture it, leaving zergified Kerrigan behind.
So while, Terrans and Zerg definitely had made contact before the timeline of the game, Zerg had no interest in wiping Terrans out, because they were focused on Protoss and didn't really care.
As of UED, the in game explanation why they have the same units was that UED acted like conquistadors in South America - they were but a small initial force which allowed them to exploit local divisions and assume leadership, but brunt of actual fighting was done by locals (rebels) vs locals (Dominion).
In one dialogue Mengsk claims to have seen some Zerg a year before the events of the first campaign, which may or may not be a lie. However, humans in Koprulu became aware of a massive invasion only at the time of the original Terran campaign. This rules out a long delay between the UED sending their fleet and its arrival in the sector. At best, the "long cold sleep" mentioned by the adjutant in the first briefing in the Brood War Terran campaign was no longer than a few months.