Underrail [PRE-RELEASE THREAD, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[TwinkieGorilla]

I've found the best aspect ratio to be 16:9 anyway.

EDIT: Styg I think I found a pretty significant bug: If you work for the Scrappers, then betray them, find Blaine, give information to Black Eels and talk to Protectorate BEFORE talking to SGS...it seems there will be no way to continue dialogue with the Black Eels to continue the quest.

 

[epeli]

Gotta say, so far this update has been excellent.

• I don't want to spoil anything, but there's lots of fun quests and events with some rather unique things going on. And so much to explore - as if the entire Upper Underrail and Lower Underrail's underpassages weren't enough, there's also new hidden stuff around the world.
  
• Anyone thinking Underrail's dialogue or C&C was lacking should be pleasantly surprised. The writing just keeps getting better and better, Styg & PhrygianDominant overdo themselves with each update! There are still some typos though, but I'm doing my part to get those fixed.
• The art department isn't lacking either, Upper Underrail is just so drop dead gorgeous. Does a real good job of masking the tileset grid size too, some parts look like they aren't contained in the same grid at all.

 

[Styg]

EDIT: Styg I think I found a pretty significant bug: If you work for the Scrappers, then betray them, find Blaine, give information to Black Eels and talk to Protectorate BEFORE talking to SGS...it seems there will be no way to continue dialogue with the Black Eels to continue the quest.

Did you go and tell the ambassador that Silas agreed to their terms?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Did you go and tell the ambassador that Silas agreed to their terms?

I mean, I've already done this quest so I know what to do. But yeah, there was no dialogue option with Silas to do this (meaning, Silas is unable to discuss their terms, thus ending the quest prematurely).

 

[Styg]

Did you go and tell the ambassador that Silas agreed to their terms?

I mean, I've already done this quest so I know what to do. But yeah, there was no dialogue option with Silas to do this (meaning, Silas is unable to discuss their terms, thus ending the quest prematurely).

Can you upload your save to Dropbox so we can take a look?

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Can you upload your save to Dropbox so we can take a look?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfhc3stxkrnilc7/quicksave.zip?dl=0

 

[epeli]

TwinkieGorilla did you reveal the wormhole to Eddy? Looks like you did, and that means the Black Eels' attack plan becomes impossible since Scrappers have collapsed the wormhole.

edit: I just went to Junkyard to confirm it, the wormhole tunnel is collapsed. Black Eels no longer have a route to the Depots. You should have betrayed Scrappers just a liiiittle bit earlier.

 

[ST'Ranger]

The difference between man and ape is that gorillas cannot into logic.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

TwinkieGorilla did you reveal the wormhole to Eddy? Looks like you did, and that means the Black Eels' attack plan becomes impossible since Scrappers have collapsed the wormhole.

edit: I just went to Junkyard to confirm it, the wormhole tunnel is collapsed. Black Eels no longer have a route to the Depots. You should have betrayed Scrappers just a liiiittle bit earlier.

Right, I know. I've done that quest-line before. I just wanted to see if I could play both sides, talk to Blaine and still find a way to betray the Scrappers and go into battle. It seemed like I'd be able to because there is still a Blaine dialogue option if I'm not mistaken.

The difference between man and ape is that gorillas cannot into logic.

 

[Blaine]

talk to Blaine

What's up?

 

[Styg]

Can you upload your save to Dropbox so we can take a look?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfhc3stxkrnilc7/quicksave.zip?dl=0

Ok, as far as we can tell, the problem was that even after Silas has told you the invasion is aborted because the tunnel has collapsed you can still talk about Blaine and trigger the next quest (even though you cannot completed). Anyway, fixed for the future.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Cool, good to know.

 

[shihonage]

talk to Blaine

What's up?

(closes dialogue)

 

[Ninjerk]

talk to Blaine

What's up?

(closes dialogue)

Wrex.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Anybody found Hephaestus yet? I was a little drunk when given the mission and can't remember where I was supposed to look.

EDIT: Oh shit apparently I'm inside it right now. Nvmnd.

 

[epeli]

Build balance curiosity...

Anyone who has played after the Core City update: have you tried killing these guys? If yes, how did it go and what sort of character were you playing?

Spoiler

It's the faceless blockade on the metro tunnel leading to North Underrail, just outside Core City.

Attacking them is probably a suicide for most characters - I know many of my characters have a snowball's chance in hell of surviving something like that. But there's at least one build that can deal with them (and practically the entire game) extremely easily.

So I'm kind of curious, what are your experiences? I think this particular encounter is a good point of comparison, but any thoughts and observations about under- or overpowered builds are welcome.

 

[SuicideBunny]

started playing recent build again, very nice, but the game really needs some kind of map, especially once you get tnt charges.
plus it makes no sense for the camp to go hostile if you put on the rathound regalia after you already delivered his head....

 

[Ellef]

started playing recent build again, very nice, but the game really needs some kind of map, especially once you get tnt charges.
plus it makes no sense for the camp to go hostile if you put on the rathound regalia after you already delivered his head....

Yep, I just got this game and the lack of map hurts, but everything else is great so far.
The variety of ways you can solve situations, meaningful build varieties and combat options was everything I had hoped (and didn't get) for in Wasteland 2 and dragonfall.
That said, does the quest variety open up after the early game quests for Tanner and friends?

 

[polo]

It makes a little sense at least. Didn't bothered me much the first time it happened. Also i don't remember that place being very interesting, or important so i never went back.

 

[SuicideBunny]

It makes a little sense at least.

not for a char of opposite gender equipping the armor in the middle of the market, who couldn't be possibly mistaken for the ratking, especially after clering the mines from crawlers.

 

[polo]

Lols, well that armor gives them the creeps.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

That said, does the quest variety open up after the early game quests for Tanner and friends?

Yes.

not for a char of opposite gender equipping the armor in the middle of the market, who couldn't be possibly mistaken for the ratking, especially after clering the mines from crawlers.

Daughter of Ratking? I dunno, they're jumpy I guess.

On a similar note I thought it was strange/unfortunate that the Protectorate in Core City don't recognize you as not just a member, but an outranking officer (if you've chosen that path) when approaching the door. Like...really? You're going to make a Protectorate general sneak in to his own allied base while avoiding said allies in order to steal some shields? I mean...you're a fucking general. Just ask for them.

 

[epeli]

The Rathound King must've been a major pain in the ass for the Hathorians since the mere sight of his regalia turns them into murderous rage even after his death...

On a similar note I thought it was strange/unfortunate that the Protectorate in Core City don't recognize you as not just a member, but an outranking officer (if you've chosen that path) when approaching the door. Like...really? You're going to make a Protectorate general sneak in to his own allied base while avoiding said allies in order to steal some shields? I mean...you're a fucking general. Just ask for them.

Yeah, only the Protectorate troops in Upper Underrail recognize you if you choose to join the Protectorate. None of the old content reflects that. They must have pretty bad communication between Upper and Lower Underrail (read: most likely a developer oversight, they probably didn't have time for that yet)

But... you, a general? I think you're mixing up general and corporal, or you found a way to get some really serious promotions. Kind of a big deal: one is the highest possible officer rank and other is a low enlisted rank.

 

[Yoshiyyahu]

As much as I enjoy the Core City additions, I do miss the vibe of the original area (SGS, caves, up to Junkyard I guess.) I still think they are the best parts of the game exploration and atmosphere-wise. I can't really put it into words very well but I really enjoyed the feel of SGS; every floor had a purpose, the sentry bot patrols and sandbag-encircled turrets, the exit gate to the caves etc. Mushroom Cove was another area I am really fond of, but unfortunately alot of the new areas seem like empty instances with nothing in them. Exceptions to this would be the instances with the cliffs or ruined buildings.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

But... you, a general? I think you're mixing up general and corporal, or you found a way to get some really serious promotions. Kind of a big deal: one is the highest possible officer rank and other is a low enlisted rank.

Maybe I'm misremembering then? Don't judge me for the amount of weed I smoke while playing this game!