Luckmann
Arcane
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I kinda hate to say it, because at the end of the day I feel like I'm shitting in inXile's face and despite W2 and ToN I want them to do good, but this is really all that needs to be said. It's not any one single thing in Tides of Numenera that's problematic, it's practically everything in some way. It did basically nothing well, in what appears to have been an attempt at appealing to everyone and fundamentally misunderstanding the appeal of Torment to begin with. It's a fucking train wreck from start to finish, and the thread was actually pretty thorough at picking the issues apart, from the infodump introduction to the combat mechanics and character development, all the way to the modernist pandering or the fundamental issues of core lore concepts simply not mattering.It is a bad game.
It's quite simply bad. And it would've been bad with or without the Kickstarter promises and with or without the Torment name.
If that was true, this thread wouldn't just be 210ish pages and laid practically dormant for weeks. The game picked apart and analyzed as any other, with the difference that it was so bad that it was discarded and largely forgotten. Not a single one complaint that I've seen have not been warranted, and I have seen zero evidence of bandwagon-by-popularization in regards to the awfulness of Tides of Numenera.You give this gave even more grief than you would have otherwise because it failed commercially.
The only thing that has been done was the fact that people laughed at the failure of the game because it was so bad, whereas if it would have been popular, we would've raged. That's the only difference. I'm not sure how we even could have given the game more grief simply because it failed, because the issues are so flagrant, so big, that I cannot imagine that we would not have reacted to them any other way than we did, no matter the popularity.
We see largely the same discussions with D:OS2 or ELEX, with the caveat that those games do not fail on practically all counts and, despite their issues, still manages to appeal to their core audience. I think that Elex is shit, but I'm still playing it, because at least it's not ToN.
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