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Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]
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SniperHF
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Thus far the highlight for me is definitely the quests. Multiple solutions, different things happen when failing checks than you'd expect sometimes, InXile Style reactivity. An obvious example is freeing Tybir's associate from execution. If you talk to the official on stage about the situation, go do some of the quests stuff and come back with a pardon and government badge, the guy on stage will snap back at you and question why you didn't have that badge before.
I've had crises fail to "end" essentially and be stuck with the camera locked on the battlefield area and unable to move or interact with anything.
So far the main challenge in playing for me though isn't bugs, it's just how slow everything is. I'm plugging along but kinda busy at the moment
Lack of quicksave is also rather painful given something could break at any moment. They should prioritize adding that before it goes live on Early Access.
Also right now you can't seem to transfer Cyphers between NPCs and if you pick up too many you get negative status effects. So I end up dropping a lot of them.
The heavier hitters thus far are the set-piece interactive items during combat. I'm not entirely sure if those are considered Cyphers, Oddities, or something else. I didn't think they were considered Cyphers since that seems more designated for inventory items.
I've had crises fail to "end" essentially and be stuck with the camera locked on the battlefield area and unable to move or interact with anything.
So far the main challenge in playing for me though isn't bugs, it's just how slow everything is. I'm plugging along but kinda busy at the moment
Lack of quicksave is also rather painful given something could break at any moment. They should prioritize adding that before it goes live on Early Access.
Also right now you can't seem to transfer Cyphers between NPCs and if you pick up too many you get negative status effects. So I end up dropping a lot of them.
The heavier hitters thus far are the set-piece interactive items during combat. I'm not entirely sure if those are considered Cyphers, Oddities, or something else. I didn't think they were considered Cyphers since that seems more designated for inventory items.
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So far the main challenge in playing for me though isn't bugs, it's just how slow everything is. I'm plugging along but kinda busy at the moment
I'm not a fan of the run/walk animations. Feels very clunky and, yes, very slow. The ability to bring up the area map and select a section rather than panning around the entire map would also help.
Extremely so.
Oh well. Beta is beta. I'll come back after a couple of updates.
Prime Junta
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Try saving, quitting the game, restarting, and reloading. It got those un-stuck for me. OTOH just reloading keeps it stuck in the same wa
Yup, that stuff is neat and there's a lot of it. The cocktopus problem can be solved a number of ways, but some of them are only available if you solved certain other problems certain ways -- and not necessarily what you'd expect to be the "right" way.
Yeah they're bugged. Save, quit to desktop, restart, reload has gotten me unstuck though; just save and reload causes the problem to reappear.
Aye. Also, merchants aren't implemented so you can't even sell them, and I got stuck with "Cypher Sickness (minor)" multiple times and dropping them to get below the limit didn't clear it. Bugged.
Something else. Cyphers are little single-use 'magic' items you carry, oddities are little 'magic' items that just do something weird rather than obviously useful. Shatterstar, the Lord's Cup, and the cube thingy are oddities.
Those environment interactions during crises are kind of neat by the way. On the other hand that + the massive variety of ways to avoid combat gives me the feel that playing a Tough Glaive who Bashes Heads (okay, there wasn't a focus like that but you get my drift) might not be all that rewarding, as a Slick Nano who Wields a Silver Tongue gets all the cool dialog and interaction options and will find even cooler ways to beat the combat encounters by environment interactions.
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That would be amazing, even if I'm just happy to try the beta as it is. Glad to hear it's at least a possibility.
Hot damn. Now I know I'm making a completely different character come release just to check out my options.
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Oops, I meant to say 80Maxwell08.
80Maxwell08
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You called? I haven't read this thread at all.
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Read the post above. You may have given away your only Torment key dude
80Maxwell08
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So you thought with Wasteland 2. I still have 2 boxed copies on the way who are both probably going to be locked to steam so there's 2 more codes. Not to mention inXile loves giving codes away for all sorts of things.
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Smashing news everybody, the mentally ill transwoman who brought us
has more concise thoughts about Torment.
The Codex is so much better with tweet-embedding. The downside is that these are far more likely to vanish into the ether but oh well, life is fleeting.
Though fucking lol @ that guy who's mad because the UI takes up most of the screen when displaying text, as it should.
has more concise thoughts about Torment.
The Codex is so much better with tweet-embedding. The downside is that these are far more likely to vanish into the ether but oh well, life is fleeting.
Though fucking lol @ that guy who's mad because the UI takes up most of the screen when displaying text, as it should.
likaq
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Smashing news everybody, the mentally ill transwoman who brought us
has more concise thoughts about Torment.
The Codex is so much better with tweet-embedding. The downside is that these are far more likely to vanish into the ether but oh well, life is fleeting.
Though fucking lol @ that guy who's mad because the UI takes up most of the screen when displaying text, as it should.
I wonder what these retards have to say about gfx in undertale, terraria or hotline miami.
Prime Junta
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Yeah. It's like they're lacking a unifying vision for the art and are just subcontracting it from whoever seems cool at the time. It's uneven and kinda random.
Bit of a shame for T:ToN because one of the things that made PS:T PS:T was the way it looked. Everything from little piles of junk to massive buildings looked of a piece.
Prime Junta
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Drop a cypher.
It was bugged for me at least once though, and dropping them didn't help. It was listed multiple times when hovering on the negative fettle button.
I've put in 5 hours into the game so far and I still haven't found a single irritating thing. At one point in the scripted sequence with the whale (you call it CYAO? what's that?), I spent ~15 minutes just thinking about what I want to choose from available options, so the writing is definitely engaging I'd say.
It's still too early for me to comment, but I'd like to mention one thing. Remember how Defiance Bay in PoE felt empty? Big empty areas, but not enough people and they didn't do anything. It just felt dead with all the empty space. Well in Torment it's not the case at all. The locations seem smaller, more compact, so even though the number of NPCs may be the same, it still feels lively. Also there are kids running around, people walk around doing their shit. It feels alive. I see that inXile carefully read through all of the PoE's critique and found ways around all the issues present in PoE. Smart.
What people are complaining about is beyond me. The "UI" complaints - do you people also complain about a book's cover?
The "I wanted the narrative structure to be exactly like Torment" complaints - I don't even...
"There's not enough weird races" - uh, seriously? The entire game is weird in a good way and very original so far, so I don't even know what you're talking about. Wherever you look, there's something weird going on.
It's still too early for me to comment, but I'd like to mention one thing. Remember how Defiance Bay in PoE felt empty? Big empty areas, but not enough people and they didn't do anything. It just felt dead with all the empty space. Well in Torment it's not the case at all. The locations seem smaller, more compact, so even though the number of NPCs may be the same, it still feels lively. Also there are kids running around, people walk around doing their shit. It feels alive. I see that inXile carefully read through all of the PoE's critique and found ways around all the issues present in PoE. Smart.
What people are complaining about is beyond me. The "UI" complaints - do you people also complain about a book's cover?
The "I wanted the narrative structure to be exactly like Torment" complaints - I don't even...
"There's not enough weird races" - uh, seriously? The entire game is weird in a good way and very original so far, so I don't even know what you're talking about. Wherever you look, there's something weird going on.
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Fun fact: Obsidian stole inXile's art director: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-nesler-469773
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I think that visually it's simply beautiful (the opening area, the 'laboratory' in which you fight against Sorrow fragment etc...) but yes, portraits and character models are quite bad. Fortunately, inXile guys said that they are temporary.
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That was a pretty good headhunt, leaving inXile with these chumps https://www.linkedin.com/in/maxx-kaufman-47b9a74 http://www.mobygames.com/developer/sheet/view/developerId,205213/
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The character models in pre-DC WL2 were really godawful. In a "how is this even possible, look at the other assets" kind of way.
Excidium II
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Yes? And if I was in charge of book cover art or UI development I'd be glad someone actually cares about my work.
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