Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

sea · May 10, 2014

Noticing a few Codexers helping out with the translation efforts. Thanks guys, keep up the good work.

Humanity has risen! · May 10, 2014

I joined as well for the FR version to help a bit in case I get bored and I have a bit of time. Let's say it was surreal to see an e-mail from Cosmic Misogynerd in my inbox pop out of the blue.

The conflict is similar to Spanish, in that there is Canadian vs France French. However I decided to just go with France French as it's what people are using and there will probably be 10 times as many French players as Canadian French ones. I think the differences are less than Spanish though. Mostly I must use a few colloquialisms and swear words that sound a bit ridiculous to me... and most of all remember to put a space before all exclamation points and question marks, as Canadian French is like English in that it doesn't insert one, while French in France does. Other than that I'll try to remain a bit neutral.

I think it's also a bit tricky since a lot of characters seem to have southern American accents or something and it's hard to have the same level of slang that feels as natural in another language.

Infinitron · May 10, 2014

DosBuster said:
Seems like they went ahead and did another 50 revisions, Brother None who is this mysterious UI designer who I imagine is locked in Fargo's closet.

Source: https://twitter.com/rangerkeenan/status/464910309790994432

Darth Roxor · May 10, 2014

Amateur translashuns being terribad?

Well I'd never!

VioletShadow · May 10, 2014

Darth Roxor said:
Amateur translashuns being terribad?

Well I'd never!

So far I'll have to say most of the Spanish translations I've seen are very good.

Country_Gravy · May 10, 2014

Translating the game from the superior American English is just another way that the liberals are denying American exceptionalism.

Humanity has risen! · May 10, 2014

I'm also not quite sure which names they will keep in English and which ones in French, I don't know which way the consensus will lean but for now I'd say it would depend on the context. Generally I prefer to keep original names.

sea · May 10, 2014

Humanity has risen! said:
I'm also not quite sure which names they will keep in English and which ones in French, I don't know which way the consensus will lean but for now I'd say it would depend on the context. Generally I prefer to keep original names.

We're still figuring out exact guidelines for this sort of thing, so do not take this as 100% official, but for now rules of thumb are:

Consistency is probably the number one goal. If language is inconsistent then players won't know what is going on no matter how good the translation is otherwise.
Character names that aren't nicknames/slang/etc. should be kept as-is and not changed.
Organization and location names should probably be translated very literally unless it doesn't work well (i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" might not translate as well as something else that's *very nearly* the same thing that conveys the same meaning).
Some things have multiple names, i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" and "Mad Monks" are two different names for the same group. Be aware of this when translating and do not be afraid to refer to the game for your own reference if possible.
For ranks (like what the Rangers use) and titles, real-world equivalent accuracy is less important than consistency.
Keep language general and non-regional where possible, but if there is slang or phrases that work across a language regardless of the region, that's not a problem. This isn't just translation, it's localization, after all, so adding some personality is good.

Kem0sabe · May 10, 2014

sea said:
Humanity has risen! said:

I'm also not quite sure which names they will keep in English and which ones in French, I don't know which way the consensus will lean but for now I'd say it would depend on the context. Generally I prefer to keep original names.

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We're still figuring out exact guidelines for this sort of thing, so do not take this as 100% official, but for now rules of thumb are:

Consistency is probably the number one goal. If language is inconsistent then players won't know what is going on no matter how good the translation is otherwise.

Character names that aren't nicknames/slang/etc. should be kept as-is and not changed.

Organization and location names should probably be translated very literally unless it doesn't work well (i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" might not translate as well as something else that's *very nearly* the same thing that conveys the same meaning).

Some things have multiple names, i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" and "Mad Monks" are two different names for the same group. Be aware of this when translating and do not be afraid to refer to the game for your own reference if possible.

For ranks (like what the Rangers use) and titles, real-world equivalent accuracy is less important than consistency.

Keep language general and non-regional where possible, but if there is slang or phrases that work across a language regardless of the region, that's not a problem. This isn't just translation, it's localization, after all, so adding some personality is good.

No translation into Portuguese... :decline:

VioletShadow · May 10, 2014

sea said:
Humanity has risen! said:

I'm also not quite sure which names they will keep in English and which ones in French, I don't know which way the consensus will lean but for now I'd say it would depend on the context. Generally I prefer to keep original names.

Click to expand...

We're still figuring out exact guidelines for this sort of thing, so do not take this as 100% official, but for now rules of thumb are:

Consistency is probably the number one goal. If language is inconsistent then players won't know what is going on no matter how good the translation is otherwise.

Character names that aren't nicknames/slang/etc. should be kept as-is and not changed.

Organization and location names should probably be translated very literally unless it doesn't work well (i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" might not translate as well as something else that's *very nearly* the same thing that conveys the same meaning).

Some things have multiple names, i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" and "Mad Monks" are two different names for the same group. Be aware of this when translating and do not be afraid to refer to the game for your own reference if possible.

For ranks (like what the Rangers use) and titles, real-world equivalent accuracy is less important than consistency.

Keep language general and non-regional where possible, but if there is slang or phrases that work across a language regardless of the region, that's not a problem. This isn't just translation, it's localization, after all, so adding some personality is good.

Thanks for this! It's pretty much how I've been approaching it. Cosmic Misogynerd take a look.

Yuri Gagarin · May 10, 2014

sea said:
Noticing a few Codexers helping out with the translation efforts. Thanks guys, keep up the good work.

Be careful with the codexers. You know that most of them are devious little bastards.

VioletShadow said:
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Thanks for this! It's pretty much how I've been approaching it. Cosmic Misogynerd take a look.

Copied in the translation thread. Thanks.

Ninjerk · May 10, 2014

Kem0sabe said:
sea said:

Humanity has risen! said:

I'm also not quite sure which names they will keep in English and which ones in French, I don't know which way the consensus will lean but for now I'd say it would depend on the context. Generally I prefer to keep original names.

Click to expand...

We're still figuring out exact guidelines for this sort of thing, so do not take this as 100% official, but for now rules of thumb are:

Consistency is probably the number one goal. If language is inconsistent then players won't know what is going on no matter how good the translation is otherwise.

Character names that aren't nicknames/slang/etc. should be kept as-is and not changed.

Organization and location names should probably be translated very literally unless it doesn't work well (i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" might not translate as well as something else that's *very nearly* the same thing that conveys the same meaning).

Some things have multiple names, i.e. "Servants of the Mushroom Cloud" and "Mad Monks" are two different names for the same group. Be aware of this when translating and do not be afraid to refer to the game for your own reference if possible.

For ranks (like what the Rangers use) and titles, real-world equivalent accuracy is less important than consistency.

Keep language general and non-regional where possible, but if there is slang or phrases that work across a language regardless of the region, that's not a problem. This isn't just translation, it's localization, after all, so adding some personality is good.

Click to expand...

No translation into Portuguese...

Pick a good imperial language peasant

felipepepe · May 10, 2014

Kem0sabe said:
No translation into Portuguese...

Brian Fargo -> Beto Longevai.

At least that's how Blizzard translates stuff. :3

FeelTheRads · May 10, 2014

Translating names... why would anyone do something so retarded?

VioletShadow · May 10, 2014

felipepepe said:
Kem0sabe said:

No translation into Portuguese...

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Brian Fargo -> Beto Longevai.

At least that's how Blizzard translates stuff. :3

¡Qué Horror!
:decline:

Yuri Gagarin · May 10, 2014

felipepepe said:
Kem0sabe said:

No translation into Portuguese...

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Brian Fargo -> Beto Longevai.

At least that's how Blizzard translates stuff. :3

Beto Longevai is a pretty bro name. I'm gonna use it for my next alt.

Kem0sabe · May 11, 2014

If I had any say, every encounter would start with my characters screaming "cadê o baiano seus filhos da puta?"

felipepepe · May 11, 2014

I would mod raiders into cangaçeiros:

Clockwork Knight · May 11, 2014

Longevai reminds me of Strider. Fargo as Aragorn?

Blizzard's plain descriptive names would be hilarious in Portuguese.

Garrosh Grito-do-Inferno, filho de Grommash Grito-do-Inferno, aprendeu sobre o heroísmo de seu pai quando Servo encountrou o jovem orc no Estrangeiro. As sementes do orgulho foram plantadas. Garrosh liderou vitórias da Horda no Rasgo Norte e, como Comandante de Guerra, consolidou o poder da Horda ao meio do caos do Cataclisma. Mas suas visões de supremacia orc por quaisquer meios trouxeram os exércitos do mundo para cima de Orgrimmar...um último acerto de contas que o próprio Garrosh espera com brutal apreciação.