The Dragon Age: Inquisition Thread

[RK47]

Their emphasis on "The game" is hilarious, I cringe every time I hear it. Pretty sure they have a couple of quotes taken directly from GoT.(With minor synonym swaps of course.)
"Anyone who's into 'Game of Thrones' or Lord of the Rings' will adore this sword and sorcery epic."
Indeed...

The whole winter palace sequence is fucking overhyped and fatally flawed in execution.
The World's Greatest Detective Compass is a fucking apt description of the entire investigation sequence.

 

[Frozen]

This well of sorrows McGuffin dungeon reminds me of BG2 end in art style.
But the writing lol....Morrigan-I don't know what it does but Corypheus wants it so lets go figure it out by killing another mob hurp durp
I didn't pay attention is all of main plot like this-DA2 bad, because gameplay is game breaker and you cant skip it to come to the story.

 

[DreadMessiah]

Hi everybody! just came by to state that I don't think it is a big deal and noteworthy to discuss. So I would just like to reiterate by discussing this non discussion topic that it isn't worth discussing.

Alright thanks for your time!

:HUGGYBOX:

 

[AW8]

Just watched Chinquisition Episode 85. I liked Blackwall earlier. Now I like him even more!

His voice is good as well. And his beard is 10/10 BOTY.

The best part about watching an LP instead of playing, I get to "meet" the characters that make the journey worth it, without having to sludge through the terrible gameplay. Instead I get to laugh at terrible gameplay with added commentary. :D

Now I'm off to write Blackwall fanfiction.

 

[RK47]

Tried a short co-op

Only 4 buttons of awesome. So wow.

 

[set]

every snippet I watch just fills my head with more and more bullshit, do they just keep introducing more nonsense for this corypheous to go after?

 

[Morality Games]

Can't finish it. I'm out. Fuck, I'm out.

I kept saying up until the last minute it would be good for what it is, but I didn't know how fucking wrong I was.

 

[Crevice tab]

Let's face it, Bioware panders. There are heaps of ego stroking. That's fine as long it's not pandering to someone specific? Unfair?

I read the article. I do think removing conflict and sanitizing your story can be detrimental. On the other hand, I understand that seeing a single character you can identify with and see them struggle in the same or similar way you have could be quite disheartening. Or empowering, if done right, I suppose. He decided to play it safe, they run a business after all. Either way, we're not the people this is aimed at and there's a ton of other content that's aimed at us, the general mass of non-trans people. I can live with that.

The problem isn't the pandering. The problem is that Bioware does nothing but pandering which in turn leads to shallow, pointless, unsatisfying games. Include trans characters if you like- it's actually good to have them because realism but don't make characters just for SJW points. If a character has no other purpose except for being :incloosive:then that character shouldn't be there. It's not like Bioware invented the LGBT characters in gaming nor do their games have any sort of strong LGBT plots or themes. They just hype it up and go over the top in the typical retarded EA way by rubbing it on the players faces without connecting it with the rest of the game.

 

[Volourn]

Early Review (after 30ish hours):



Not as good as either earlier DA. The game play is subpar, there's a huge lacking of real C&C (with only the mage vs templar one seemingly to be the only meanngful one, combat for the most part boring with even worse hit point bloat than before,the character creation/level up system (outside of multiple races|) is plain crap and fukkin' dumbed down shit.

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Exploring can be fun but the unlimited number of fetch quests is pure retartetcy. The graphics are good and the music is as well. The characetrs for the most part are done reasonably well. The story including the main villain is lacklustre. So far he is one of BIO's worst.


The war table is a good idea and mostly works but it is majorly hurt by the **** quest 'system'.



Playable game but nowhere near a BIO classic so far. This is at KOTOR and NWN OC levels of average.

 

[hell bovine]

The sad thing is that they do this so they net some good points in the LGBT community. When competent writers write a story, first they make the basic idea, then they develop the story arc, and the characters. If the story needs a lesbian or gay or trans character, great, let them have it. But at Bioware, it goes like this. First breainstorming meeting: OK guys, whatever the story will be, we will need gays and even a trans person. Also, you must be able to fuck everybody.

It is painfully obvious that Bioware is only doing this because it became their shtick. And it makes me sick that people applaud them as progressive and great writers.

I'd agree with the exception of " If the story needs a lesbian or gay or trans character"; a story just needs well written characters, and not their sexualities. (Unless you are writing porn.) Characters that are gay, trans etc. should be in movies, games, books, not because a story might "need" them, but because people come in a variety of shapes and sizes. Otherwise the world you create will look like 90% of the population consists of heterosexual white men, which is not only not very believable, it's plain idiotic.

 

[Konjad]

Even on codex in DAI thread the main discussion is about sexuality, sex, trannies and other sick themes. Not that I've ever though much of the 'dex, but these are the main subjects of Bioware Social, and I kinda expected discussions about C&C, combat and writing here.

 

[eremita]

http://www.bfcinematictools.com/dai/

 

[DalekFlay]

Holy shit I agree with Volourn.

 

[Merlkir]

Holy shit I agree with Volourn.

It's a good summary, exactly my thoughts at a similar point in the game.

I fought the lightning dragon in Crestwood yesterday and the amount of HP it had was just silly. The sillier thing was - my entire party got wiped out, except for Cassandra. I solo'd the dragon with her, for 90% of its HP. Her shield skills might be a bit broken, I think.

 

[Knut]

for Merlkir but you're fighthing the losing battle. what would a bunch of bitter, vengeful princesses on codex know about pandering, representation and mainstream anyway? all they want is to shit on their ex gf Bioware, because she moved on with another guy.

 

[Merlkir]

Ah well, it's not like I'm that invested or convinced I'm right.
But it's a bit ridiculous to not see the parallels and denial. I romanced Cassandra yesterday. I know it's not very well written, there were cringe moments. Despite that, I enjoyed it, because it was made for a person like me.

The game's certainly not perfect and even pretty bad in some ways. I think it fails much more in its combat, character systems, pacing and area design rather than the story and character writing. And fucking hell, seeing some of the Iron Bull videos, that's saying something.

Still, even though I'm annoyed and sometimes bored by the grind, most of it is disturbingly enjoyable. Perhaps if Bioware made an enhanced version like CDPR do, I'd play this again.

 

[Infinitron]

Well I'm at the end of this piece of shit, final mission (labeled as such) is on the map. I would write a long summary post of my thoughts but I think everything has been dutifully covered by myself and others in this thread. MMO design through and through, action game controls, moderately solid main quest and pretties.

Infinitron, I assume someone else is writing a review of this?

Two someones. Delterius and kris. Feel free to send them advice and suggestions, though.

 

[Knut]

Still, even though I'm annoyed and sometimes bored by the grind, most of it is disturbingly enjoyable.

sums up my opinion too.

 

[Durian Eater]

Even on codex in DAI thread the main discussion is about sexuality, sex, trannies and other sick themes. Not that I've ever though much of the 'dex, but these are the main subjects of Bioware Social, and I kinda expected discussions about C&C, combat and writing here.

There's only so many ways to say "almost nonexistent, bad and bad." Particularly when Bioware has no interest in opinions outside the Kotaku-Tumblr nexus, and their design goals are completely dependent on the changing whims of EA. If anything, I'm surprised that Codexers are so interested in a not-RPG made by a company that's now totally opposed to everything they stand for. "Whatever is shifting a gorillion units this year plus that Great Progressive Bioware Writing" is the design philosophy going forward. What that produces may be uninspired dreck, but as long as the payola is scattered with a free hand and the LGBT credentials remain well-burnished, the 10/10s and GOTYs will keep rolling in.

 

[mastroego]

for Merlkir but you're fighthing the losing battle. what would a bunch of bitter, vengeful princesses on codex know about pandering, representation and mainstream anyway? all they want is to shit on their ex gf Bioware, because she moved on with another guy.

Some of us are actually pissed off at the very hint of pandering, claims of moral superiority and shit like that.
I hate this kind of behavior in every context (starting of course with politics).
All those who thrive in this kind of sensationalist boasting of righteousness should perish in horrible, long lasting torment.
All those who are TRULY capable of decent, respectful (and discreet) thinking, or at the very least understand subtlety and style, should feel this way (actually, they do).

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, which doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

 

[Knut]

All those who are TRULY capable of decent, respectful (and discreet) thinking, or at the very least understand subtlety and style, should feel this way (actually, they do).

Of course you are entitled to your opinion, which doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.

i'm so sorry for failing to uphold the standards of intellectually stimulating and nuanced bioware threads on codex. i bow to the codex hivemind:

"fukkin faggits! bioware pandering arrrgh! burna d biowre qnd no games should be producid but clones of DOS for next 30 years! CRPG's!"

 

[DalekFlay]

Done.

Amusing that the last scene before the credits is a romance scene. Bioware's all like IN YOUR FACE BITCH.

Anyway, the main villain in this one has to be one of the most pathetic villains in RPGs. He's a whiny little bitch who you defeat well before the final mission and he just flails around doing nothing. He also looks dumb, and zooms about in awkward animations. It's just bad writing and design all around, honestly. The plot is okay I guess, but really missed out on it's chance to be good, by focusing on their unique mage system that was a big part of the previous games but never focused on like it should have been. The final mission is literally 10 minutes long, I loaded the game up this morning and beat it after one fight. Lame.

Not much else to say. "Disturbingly enjoyable" above is a pretty solid take on it. Super lame grinding, super bad quest design, but if you're bored there's a lot of "okay" content here to distract you from life's bullshit.

 

[Crevice tab]

Even on codex in DAI thread the main discussion is about sexuality, sex, trannies and other sick themes. Not that I've ever though much of the 'dex, but these are the main subjects of Bioware Social, and I kinda expected discussions about C&C, combat and writing here.

DAI is about sexuality and trannies so if we want to discuss it then we need to delve deep and hard into these subjects. Otherwise there isn't much to discuss.

The C&C is largely irrelevant with choices usually leading in exactly the same spot, the combat is unbalanced and banal and the writing is mediocre if not bad.

 

[RK47]

 

[Turjan]

DAI is about sexuality and trannies...

Is it? I have only watched RK47's videos so far, and if I see that correctly, it's a very minor part of the game. It's probably the only thing it does differently from most other games, so I guess that's why this gets talked about. The bulk of DA:I is borrowed either from other popular games or Bioware's/Obsidian's back catalog, so there's not much to talk about. The cutscenes make up a large part, but the bulk is the grindy combat with lots of colorful effects, which looks totally confusing.

This makes more or less three aspects worth talking about, the pre-primetime quality soap opera, the boring combat, and the sex topics, with only the latter being more or less unique to Bioware.

 

[Merlkir]

Oh yes, magical and ability effects are waaaaay too flashy and distracting. Especially when your guys pile on a single enemy, you can hardly tell where they are in the cloud of rogue smoke, mage fire and blocks of ice, lightning storms and slash arcs. Could definitely use toning down.