THE DEBATE OF THE MILLENIA CONTINUES

[HanoverF]

Zomg, Diablo should have three colors: red, grey, and black!!one

oh gaws itz heaven *fap fap fap*

 

[Hümmelgümpf]

And respec shit.
This worries me much. And a multiplayer part which can be ruined because of this.

Unless they, you know, balance the game with respecing in mind.

 

[Kingston]

No PKing in Hardcore mode = Bullshit! What's the fun in that? The point in HC was that you couldn't trust anyone. This led to there being no public games in Hell mode, but they could fix that up a lot by getting rid of pk hacks and such.

 

[Hobo Elf]

No PKing in Hardcore mode = Bullshit!

Wait, what? Best be joking, nigga. Are they really taking PvP away from HC?

 

[MetalCraze]

No PKing in Hardcore mode = Bullshit! What's the fun in that? The point in HC was that you couldn't trust anyone. This led to there being no public games in Hell mode, but they could fix that up a lot by getting rid of pk hacks and such.

What?
They better not be shooting their own foot right there

 

[SlyDrak]

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[Talonfire]

Diablo 2 was such a disappointment after the original Diablo. Diablo 3 might be better than Diablo 2, but I'm not going to hold my breath after seeing this art direction.

 

[Hobo Elf]

We have not actually decided on the final death mechanic. I can guarantee that you will not lose experience. We are not urging to big penalties for death. But we want enough of a penalty to be there, so that death has meaning! Like to lose a little bit time, some kind of detriment... We do not currently have a durability loss (to equipment), but some kind of ... a gold cost is actually not so bad. And having the player to waste some time, that is certainly an element. Generally we kind of rely on the effect that players do not want to die. You know, you just do not want to. So there is no real reason to add a further "ding" to them for something happening that was already unfavorable to them. But we have not got our final mechanics on that, yet.

So what the fuck do I need money for if I don't need to repair my equipment? Jesus this game looks worse and worse the more I read about it.

 

[Talonfire]

We have not actually decided on the final death mechanic. I can guarantee that you will not lose experience. We are not urging to big penalties for death. But we want enough of a penalty to be there, so that death has meaning! Like to lose a little bit time, some kind of detriment... We do not currently have a durability loss (to equipment), but some kind of ... a gold cost is actually not so bad. And having the player to waste some time, that is certainly an element. Generally we kind of rely on the effect that players do not want to die. You know, you just do not want to. So there is no real reason to add a further "ding" to them for something happening that was already unfavorable to them. But we have not got our final mechanics on that, yet.

So what the fuck do I need money for if I don't need to repair my equipment? Jesus this game looks worse and worse the more I read about it.

Buying trading cards of Leeroy Jenkins that grant you special bonuses to your non-existent stats.

 

[Raapys]

Stats system? Oh you mean that thing they're offloading onto items, which is easily the worst solution I could've imagined. Obviously items in d2 were not critical enough and needed to become more important. I'm not even sure why there are stats anymore, seeing as items no longer have any requirements aside from level.
...

Exactly, that's just the problem. If anything they should make the stat system better, yet it seems they're basically just removing it. Stat-based systems are tons more interesting than simple level-based ones.

As far as I'm concerned, pretty much everything they have 'announced' in regards to this game has been bad. I don't see any true improvements over D2. Even the classes don't look as interesting.

 

[Kingston]

Old talk on stat system: http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=26915

One point I think is important:

All this emphasis on items is a bit weird considering everyone gets their own individual drop. Where's the competitiveness? Your entire character build is based more on random chance now than before, since items make all the difference, and if that one goddamned awesome item drops, you won't be able to affect who it goes to.

 

[Michael Ellis]

When I registered tonight I did not plan on making a negative first post but from what I have seen on the Codex perhaps it is apropos. Why the excitement for a game that pushes you through what are effectively mice training mazes and that boil down to a clickfest with no C&C? Unless you consider which gem to socket worthy C&C. Sure Diablo was fun as it was fresh and had haunting acoustic guitars with dark/evil overtones. But to paraphrase a VD analogy in an interview, we have been there and done that with kiddie books and now want books for adults.

 

[MetalCraze]

VD actually thinks that Diablo2 is the best aRPG ever.

We have not actually decided on the final death mechanic. I can guarantee that you will not lose experience. We are not urging to big penalties for death. But we want enough of a penalty to be there, so that death has meaning! Like to lose a little bit time, some kind of detriment... We do not currently have a durability loss (to equipment), but some kind of ... a gold cost is actually not so bad. And having the player to waste some time, that is certainly an element.

Fuck.

Generally we kind of rely on the effect that players do not want to die. You know, you just do not want to. So there is no real reason to add a further "ding" to them for something happening that was already unfavorable to them.

Oh ffs if you don't want to die - stay alive then. This is the best working mechanics ever.

This consolish "we don't want retards to feel bad when they do something incredibly stupid" starts to get even to Blizzard.

 

[Hobo Elf]

When I registered tonight I did not plan on making a negative first post but from what I have seen on the Codex perhaps it is apropos. Why the excitement for a game that pushes you through what are effectively mice training mazes and that boil down to a clickfest with no C&C? Unless you consider which gem to socket worthy C&C. Sure Diablo was fun as it was fresh and had haunting acoustic guitars with dark/evil overtones. But to paraphrase a VD analogy in an interview, we have been there and done that with kiddie books and now want books for adults.

Diablo was never about C&C. It was like a cute watered down version of a Roguelike, and last time I looked at nethack, the only C&C I saw there was wether I eat the rotten meat or not. Yeah.

 

[King Crispy]

He's got a point. When Diablo was originally released, and after its meteoric rise in popularity, it was universally reviled by hard-core CRPG'ers as the DEATH of RPG's.

It's funny now, after all these years, to see so much butthurt from the one place you'd think was the last "true" CRPG bastion: The RPG Codex.

ir0n33

 

[SlyDrak]

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[Hobo Elf]

Battle.net 2.0 website Complete with sign up process
Required Information:
Country
E-mail
First Name
Last Name
Address
City
State/Province
ZIP/Postal Code
Phone Number

Hoo boy. Here come the microtransactions.

 

[Dire Roach]

Well, at least they're not asking for a credit card number.

Yet.

 

[Deleted Member 10432]

You mean you don't usually fill them in like this?

Required Information:
Country: United Kingdom
E-mail: queeny@gov.uk
First Name: Elizabeth
Last Name: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Battenburg
Address: Buckingham Palace
City: London
State/Province: London
ZIP/Postal Code: SW1
Phone Number: 01234 567 890

I thought everyone did that.

 

[Talonfire]

You mean you don't usually fill them in like this?

Required Information:
Country: United Kingdom
E-mail: queeny@gov.uk
First Name: Elizabeth
Last Name: Saxe-Coburg-Gotha-Battenburg
Address: Buckingham Palace
City: London
State/Province: London
ZIP/Postal Code: SW1
Phone Number: 01234 567 890

I thought everyone did that.

It's amazing how no one cares when you enter things that are clearly incorrect into those fields. Why bother asking if no one is going to tell the truth? Honestly.

 

[Edward_R_Murrow]

Battle.net 2.0 website Complete with sign up process
Required Information:
Country
E-mail
First Name
Last Name
Address
City
State/Province
ZIP/Postal Code
Phone Number

Uhhhhh....what the hell does Blizzard need your phone number for?

 

[Eldritch]

Phone sex

Phone sex is a type of virtual sex that refers to sexually explicit conversation between two or more persons via telephone, especially when at least one of the participants masturbates or engages in sexual fantasy. Phone sex conversation may take many forms, including (but not limited to): guided, sexual sounds, narrated, and enacted suggestions; sexual anecdotes and confessions; candid expression of sexual feelings or love; discussion of very personal and sensitive sexual topics; or just two people listening to each other masturbate.

Phone sex exists both in the context of intimate relationships (e.g., among distanced lovers), and as a commercial transaction between a paying customer and a paid professional.

 

[Hobo Elf]

Or then they'll just have their goons call up on you every now and then to make sure that you have the latest unique item bought from their awesome cash shop.

 

[SlyDrak]

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[Eldritch]

People don't believe that but Steam really does delete your porn. My cyclopean archive was vanished just like that and was replaced by gigabytes of the same copy of "Ilsa, the She-Wolf of the S.S." which is a 1974 brutal S&M Nazi exploitation film directed by Don Edmonds the instant I let that despicable program download "Portal: The Super-Special Edition".

I guess "they" really do own us...