Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

[Glyphwright]

Why would he have lines?

Why did he have lines, hidden messages, solo missions and a funky relationship with HK-47 in TSL?

lol @ tsl having better characters. Better developed maybe

but I was so used to clicking past their voice-overs and selecting responses at random, it was almost as if Obsidian wasted their time trying to make a decent game out of Bioware-generated refuse.

 

[Volourn]

kotor1 AND kotor2 = SAME SHIT

 

[Tails]

"kotor1 AND kotor2 = SAME SHIT"
Wasn't it your most favourite Bio game when it was released, like NWN?

 

[cogar48]

kotor1 AND kotor2 = SAME SHIT

I have to wonder if you believe the stupid shit you post.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

I have yet to hear why Kotor2 is so superior to Kotor. The combat is worse, the prestige levels make the game even easier, the story is just as banal, and it's ridiculously unfinished and bug-ridden. How is it better again?

 

[cogar48]

I have yet to hear why Kotor2 is so superior to Kotor. The combat is worse, the prestige levels make the game even easier, the story is just as banal, and it's ridiculously unfinished and bug-ridden. How is it better again?

I have to wonder if you believe the stupid shit you post.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

Okay, and explain why it's better. If it is so obviously better, it should be easy to explain. As it stands it seems like standard Obsidshit.

 

[cogar48]

Okay, and explain why it's better. If it is so obviously better, it should be easy to explain. As it stands it seems like standard Obsidshit.

Better characters, a better story, a reputation mechanic, darker world, etc.

Of course the response will be "HERP THE CHARACTERS AND STORY ARE SHIT THE REPUTATION MECHANIC IS SHIT AND IT'S A PSEUDO-DARK WORLD" which is why I'm not going to continue the conversation passed this point. I'd rather let someone else waste their time.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

I said the story was better. It's just still a bad story. Seriously, what's so transcendent about the story to make up for the horrid gameplay and the general shoddiness of the final product?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

This discussion will only go somewhere once both of you stop using vague terms like "better", "darker", "horrid", shoddy", etc.

 

[Gay-Lussac]

This discussion will not go anywhere. Ever.

 

[PorkaMorka]

Both games are bad.

But KOTOR2 should be condemned more loudly, as it is notable as another step in the dumbing down of RPG difficulty.

I don't know how anyone could find that combat even the least bit satisfying when you analyze how little threat there is, it's just a formality.

 

[Volourn]

""kotor1 AND kotor2 = SAME SHIT"
Wasn't it your most favourite Bio game when it was released, like NWN?
"

Are u retarted?

 

[Gay-Lussac]

You're really going out of your way to make those typos, mang

 

[laclongquan]

I still remember the amused feeling of when I realized the female Jedi (not the heroine) coming on to me. And with my being female Jedi, it's a heheheh.

 

[oscar]

Just a seventies action adventure flick.

How it should of stayed.

 

[Pablosdog]

At least Kotor 2 had some measure of moral ambiguity

 

[SoupNazi]

At least Kotor 2 had some measure of moral ambiguity

Both KOTORs were equally shit/goodforwhatitwas/great story/character/atmosphere/combat wise, except KOTOR2 was also a bugriddenunfinishedpieceofturd/grimdarkadventure.

 

[Tails]

""kotor1 AND kotor2 = SAME SHIT"
Wasn't it your most favourite Bio game when it was released, like NWN?
"

Are u retarted?

Oh my, you are so edgy. Anyway, let's see:

"I'm bias; but I don't care. This is my third favorite crpg of all time. Period."

 

[dextermorgan]

Vader was more badass than scary.

Oh yeah? Tell that to Admiral Conan Antonio Motti, Admiral Kendal Ozzel and Moff Jerjerrod.

 

[dextermorgan]

""kotor1 AND kotor2 = SAME SHIT"
Wasn't it your most favourite Bio game when it was released, like NWN?
"

Are u retarted?

Oh my, you are so edgy. Anyway, let's see:

"I'm bias; but I don't care. This is my third favorite crpg of all time. Period."

 

[Glyphwright]

But KOTOR2 should be condemned more loudly, as it is notable as another step in the dumbing down of RPG difficulty.

One of the most moronic statements I've ever seen. I guess PS:T and Arcanum are paragons of combat difficulty, along with every other "elite" RPG that comes to mind.

I said the story was better. It's just still a bad story

KotOR2 has an awesome story with awesome characters and an awesome game world. It's a story about a Jedi who went to war and made a decision that cost him his Force and his ties to the Jedi. A decision that had its origins in something much greater and only loosely explained in the game, its repercussions happened to spawn an entire sect of Force-users bent on devouring all remaining Jedi and anyone who happens to be on the same planet as them. Most every party member in the series is somehow affected by the series of wars which wrecked the Republic and decimated the Order, each in his personal way. Visas is a genocide survivor. Kreia bears indirect responsibility for training every major villain we've seen in both games. This is good stuff.

 

[Volourn]

"At least Kotor 2 had some measure of moral ambiguity"





"Oh my, you are so edgy. Anyway, let's see: "

Didn't claim it was the best BIO game ever, did I?

Plus, times change, and it's all about perception. KOTOR is overrated, and it was overrated by me. Yes, I'ma Codexian and human. Even I go nutz when new games come out.

It's called the test of time. Games like NWN, BG2, and FO have succeeded the test. KOTOR has failed.

But, I give you kudos for finding my past embarassment. I take back my retarted comment... this time.

 

[Vault Dweller]

KotOR2 has an awesome story with awesome characters and an awesome game world. It's a story about a Jedi who went to war and made a decision that cost him his Force and his ties to the Jedi was told to look for 4 Jedi Masters which is deeper than looking for 4 pieces of a map... This is good stuff.

Fixed.

 

[cogar48]

KotOR2 has an awesome story with awesome characters and an awesome game world. It's a story about a Jedi who went to war and made a decision that cost him his Force and his ties to the Jedi was told to look for 4 Jedi Masters which is deeper than looking for 4 pieces of a map... This is good stuff.

Fixed.

You're fucking retarded.

>Implying the backstory is the same as the main mission.