Spec Ops: The Line - Heart of Darkness with guns

[Jick Magger]

Apocalypse Now is a great movie, though. I'd use any excuse just to tell people to watch it.

 

[circ]

EDGY TIME. No but seriously, is it? I haven't seen the redux or whatever version, but Marty Sheen gets to Nam, talks with Bob Duvall who says some classic lines, sits on a boat with a young Larry Fishburne, and the voices in his head just won't shut the fuck up. Eventually runs into Fatso McBrando and has to listen to his poop. Thanks, but I'll take Full Metal Jacket instead.

 

[Jick Magger]

Yes it is.
*insert dismissive synopsis of Full Metal Jacket here*

 

[Dexter]

There's also some cool shots from the game on http://deadendthrills.com/?cat=1684 made with a special version of using free camera and removing HUD elements etc.

 

[buzz]

OMG KILLING IS TEH BAD!!!

You know what truly pisses me off? The fact that Spec Ops: The Line is not even a viable "deconstruction" of the modern shooter. Because most modern shooters try to sell the pretentious message "war is evil and mean" thing as well. Call of Duty is especially doing that with torture scenes, the nuclear bomb, terrorist acts, semi-relevant philosophy quotes in the loading screens, betrayal, friends getting killed, you getting killed (and burned alive omg so sad ) and americans being evil, that one was used as well. I haven't played Gears of War, but I remember that one trailer with Mad World being played in the background so it's probably doing the same shit.

It's one of the reasons why I hate modern shooters in the first place. I didn't give a shit whether the cyber-demon in Doom had daddy issues or not. I just want the instant gratification I get from the gameplay.

 

[am0kgonzo]

OMG KILLING IS TEH BAD!!!

You know what truly pisses me off? The fact that Spec Ops: The Line is not even a viable "deconstruction" of the modern shooter. Because most modern shooters try to sell the pretentious message "war is evil and mean" thing as well. Call of Duty is especially doing that with torture scenes, the nuclear bomb, terrorist acts, semi-relevant philosophy quotes in the loading screens, betrayal, friends getting killed, you getting killed (and burned alive omg so sad ) and americans being evil, that one was used as well. I haven't played Gears of War, but I remember that one trailer with Mad World being played in the background so it's probably doing the same shit.

It's one of the reasons why I hate modern shooters in the first place. I didn't give a shit whether the cyber-demon in Doom had daddy issues or not. I just want the instant gratification I get from the gameplay.

So play the games that are just about shooting stuff? It's not like there aren't a shitload of them out there. Or do all games need to cater to your tastes?

 

[Weierstraß]

OMG KILLING IS TEH BAD!!!

You know what truly pisses me off? The fact that Spec Ops: The Line is not even a viable "deconstruction" of the modern shooter. Because most modern shooters try to sell the pretentious message "war is evil and mean" thing as well. Call of Duty is especially doing that with torture scenes, the nuclear bomb, terrorist acts, semi-relevant philosophy quotes in the loading screens, betrayal, friends getting killed, you getting killed (and burned alive omg so sad ) and americans being evil, that one was used as well. I haven't played Gears of War, but I remember that one trailer with Mad World being played in the background so it's probably doing the same shit.

It's one of the reasons why I hate modern shooters in the first place. I didn't give a shit whether the cyber-demon in Doom had daddy issues or not. I just want the instant gratification I get from the gameplay.

But The Line didn't do that, so what's your problem with it?

 

[Angthoron]

OMG KILLING IS TEH BAD!!!

You know what truly pisses me off? The fact that Spec Ops: The Line is not even a viable "deconstruction" of the modern shooter. Because most modern shooters try to sell the pretentious message "war is evil and mean" thing as well. Call of Duty is especially doing that with torture scenes, the nuclear bomb, terrorist acts, semi-relevant philosophy quotes in the loading screens, betrayal, friends getting killed, you getting killed (and burned alive omg so sad ) and americans being evil, that one was used as well. I haven't played Gears of War, but I remember that one trailer with Mad World being played in the background so it's probably doing the same shit.

It's one of the reasons why I hate modern shooters in the first place. I didn't give a shit whether the cyber-demon in Doom had daddy issues or not. I just want the instant gratification I get from the gameplay.

But The Line didn't do that, so what's your problem with it?

Neither did COD say anything about "war being evil and mean". It's a standard military shooter with a standard military shooter plot. If we go by that line of reasoning, then Blood was an anti-violence thesis with a touch of anti-vandalism morale sprinkled on it.

 

[Metro]

Mentioned this before in another thread but always hilarious to see a developer mock crappy military shooters by making yet another crappy military shooter. Oh, but a 'self-aware' one so it's all good.

 

[Angthoron]

Mentioned this before in another thread but always hilarious to see a developer mock crappy military shooters by making yet another crappy military shooter. Oh, but a 'self-aware' one so it's all good.

A bit like that Bulletstorm dev parody "game"? Yeah.

 

[Metro]

That, too, was hilarious. Herp Derp 'da dooty calls!' Newflash: you guys just made some shitty four hour cutscene riddled consoletard shooter. I wouldn't have panned Bulletstorm as much as I did had it been a $15 digital download title where you compete for high scores or whatever. As a fully fledged EA published AAA shebang it's laughably bad.

 

[Grunker]

Hated the gameplay, the story wasn't for me.

If just one Call of Duty-fag plays this though, then its existence is justified.

 

[Metro]

That's assuming they get the message.

 

[Grunker]

That's assuming they get the message.

Betting on the chance some will.

RAAAAAAINBOW

 

[Commander Xbox]

i much prefer the autism simulation and rich meaningful lbqt themes running through the upcoming classic ''project eternity'' to this, feh, ''shooter'' game

by chance have you heard of a series called call of duty? i hear its bad (of course i have never played such plebian trash)

 

[mediocrepoet]

I wouldn't have panned Bulletstorm as much as I did had it been a $15 digital download title where you compete for high scores or whatever. As a fully fledged EA published AAA shebang it's laughably bad.

It's funny, I usually think people are too hard on Bulletstorm. I had a lot of fun with it. But this puts it into perspective. I downloaded it for like $5 from some Steam sale... I can't see paying full price for any shooter. I generally dislike the entire genre and only see a few of them I find bearable. I actually have Spec Ops and got bored within the first 45 minutes. It's too bad because it looks pretty and whatever but I just hate shooters too much even if I am semi-interested in the commentary I see about the plot twist and the game's overall story.

 

[ManjuShri]

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

That ending still haunts me. Bruce Boxleitner + excellent dialogue + memorable music = Win.

 

[J_C]

I finished the game yesterday and it trully was amazing. It was so surprising, so well done. Not a happy ending at all.

 

[Metro]

I finished the game yesterday and it trully was amazing. It was so surprising, so well done. Not a happy ending at all.

Best example of deadpan sarcasm I've seen in a while. You are truly a master of your craft.

 

[J_C]

Actually it wasn't sarcasm. It was very good.

 

[LundB]

Reposting my thoughts from the screenshot thread:

So because it was cheap and I wanted to experience firsthand the shitty 2deep4u story so many Codexers seemed to love, I tried Spec Ops: The Line. I was not prepared for the horror I experienced. The horrors of war, and the far worse horrors of generic third person covershooting popamole and murky ugly textures.

OH MAN WHAT DEEP AND SUBTLE SOCIAL COMMENTARY! GAMES ARE ART.

Man that white phosphorous was conveniently placed... oh hey what have we here? Smells delicious.

Kentucky Fried Civilians? LOOKS LIKE MEAT'S BACK ON THE MENU, BOYS!

HOT MOTHER DAUGHTER BONDING XXX! Guys I think this game is trying to convey some sort of message but it's way too subtle, deep, and totally not heavyhanded at all for me to figure it out.

Oh, the bad guy's in a chair with a gun hanging from his limp arm. This can only mean... I WAS TYLER DURDEN ALL ALONG!

Just when I thought it couldn't get more 2deep4u pretentious, they used the Fight Club twist. LundB cried in a whisper at this game, at this pretension -- he cried out twice, a cry that was no more than a breath: "The horror! The horror!"

LUNDB RATES THIS MAJESTIC GAMING EXPERIENCE 9 INCINERATED BABIES OUT OF 10.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

LundB, you're trying too hard to be edgy. You even bothered to finish the game just to come back here and post that shit. Don't worry, there are still six playthroughs left for you to change your mind.

 

[Metro]

Actually it wasn't sarcasm. It was very good.

You've outdone yourself!

LundB, you're trying too hard to be edgy.

More like this game tries too hard to be edgy.

 

[J_C]

Metro LundB

I don't know what's your problem. Noone said that this is the best game ever, but it has a well done, rather unusual story (FOR A GAME), which tackles some disturbing aspects of war. It seems to me you are just hating it to be feel like a true Codexer.