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So I finished Dungeon Siege 3

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MetalCraze said:
But the game isn't better with a gamepad that is the problem.

"Play it with a gamepad" isn't an excuse for making shit control scheme.
I know that k+m control is shit. I'm just saying that if someone wants to play with the game, but he can't because of the shitty controls, he should try with a gamepad, because clearly the game was tailored to a controller.
 
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This kind of a game shouldn't be tailored for a gamepad, though, well I haven't played it so I don't know what kind of a control scheme are they going with but I assume it's a Diablo-like game. Gamepad is good for a specific set of genres, and pretty horrible for others.

However having at least adequate keyboard+mouse controls is essential for all PC games, because that's what all players have and what many of them will use.
 

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The game also forces 16:9 on you together with black stripes, so I imagine how bad it is for people with 4:3 monitors. Basically Obsidian didn't give a shit about the quality of their slamdunk.

Daggerdale - essentially DS3 made by other people - has much better controls, camera and combat (you actually hit whatever there is in the way of your dagger/sword swing - CDP and Obsidian gotta learn from noobs) while being just as shitty. Basically even Daggerdale is a better game.
 

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MetalCraze said:
The game also forces 16:9 on you together with black stripes, so I imagine how bad it is for people with 4:3 monitors.
People still use 4:3 monitors? Are they using those big floppy disks from the commodore era too? :smug:
 

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What a wierd end boss btw, felt so out of place.
a water elemental with an "Alien" head?
edit: spoiler tag now happy?
 

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What a wierd end boss btw, felt so out of place, a water elemental with an "Alien" head.
Fuck you!

Would it hurt to use this?
 

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Demnogonis Saastuttaja said:
well I haven't played it so I don't know what kind of a control scheme are they going with but I assume it's a Diablo-like game.
As has been pointed out several times already, the game has little in common with Diablo and -clones.

Not saying this excuses the broken K&M controls, but this is not the game some people apparently assume it is. See, skyway says it's an RPG. I'd disagree, if I gave a damn about genre definitions.
 

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So wait a minute, you hated it but played it through till the end. Just don't think you hated it that much and are trying to winz teh codex by bashing it. If you hated it, I mean really hated it, then you would have given up, just like I did with DA2. I hated that piece of shit and I quit and uninstalled it. Very fast.
 

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Dude. You can't hate the shit out of anything until you play it 7 times. Or something.

I've never finished NWN 2. I quit shortly after getting some cat companion and getting to some shitty village. However, I'm unsure if I hate NWN 2 or DS3 more.

Maybe it has to do with taking baby steps? Just play it for 20 minutes, quit and jerk off, go back to playing it for 20 minutes.

No I'm pretty sure I hate DS3 the most. I don't think I've ever before said WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING? in response to the controls, out loud with a computer game before.
 

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Exploration resembled a squeezed sphinter. That anyone requires a minimap for this game is pathetic. You can win just with the "W" and "S" keys. If you can't figure out which way is forward and which way is back, you either need a special helmet to play these games, or please stop holding your map upside down.
 

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First scores are in.

gamrReview 06/16/11 Review 8.3 out of 10
Game Informer 07/01/11 Review 8 out of 10
Game Revolution 06/16/11 Review B

It looks like this will be one of the highest rated Obsidian game so far. :thumbsup: The devs also proved that they can make a polished game if they don't have to work with a shitty engine. Of course DS3 is not too complex, so they had an easier job here.
 

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8.3 ? 8 ? B ?

:what:

Seriously? Is this the sort of game the reviewers want obsidian to make ? I thought this was definitely their weakest game. Nothing above a 7, maybe less.
 

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That's the thing though. Mainstream gamers don't really care about ambitions, they just want a polished engine and solid gameplay mechanics, and DS3 has both. It's a solid game, but it has no ambition. Pretty forgettable in the long run.
 

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Those scores are par for the course for everything they've ever released, AP and SOZ being the two exceptions. And you haven't realized yet that people love their reasonably-polished generic fantasy action games?
 

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Also, anything below a 9 in modern gaming media could be interpreted as mediocre.
 

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Lockkaliber said:
Also, anything below a 9 in modern gaming media could be interpreted as mediocre.

Seriously. They use 1 to 10 scales but don't hand out anything lower than 6 or 7.
 

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Yeah, jeuxvideo were pretty good (they also had an excellent review of DKS).

Anyway, this thread shows a distinct lack of reviews that are not trying too hard. So, anyone care to fill that gap? Specifically, if I got bored out of my skull with DS1 and skipped all subsequent games, is there anything that DS3 does that could make it worth a try?
 

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Sceptic said:
Anyway, this thread shows a distinct lack of reviews that are not trying too hard. So, anyone care to fill that gap? Specifically, if I got bored out of my skull with DS1 and skipped all subsequent games, is there anything that DS3 does that could make it worth a try?

Depends. DS3 is like a bizarro version of DS1. Combat no longer autopilot, but exploration and party combat/management is p. much non-existent. It's a corridor slasher, basically speaking, so...
 

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Sceptic said:
Yeah, jeuxvideo were pretty good (they also had an excellent review of DKS).

Anyway, this thread shows a distinct lack of reviews that are not trying too hard. So, anyone care to fill that gap? Specifically, if I got bored out of my skull with DS1 and skipped all subsequent games, is there anything that DS3 does that could make it worth a try?
It has nothing to do with DS1.
Otherwise one can only repeat what has been said before: Some like it (if you play it with a gamepad and touch your "stick").
Others (those with taste) consider it an abomination. The laziest PC port ever to hit shelves and pretty bad in all other relevant aspects, too.
It has a demo, so if you like your porn stolen you can try it even if you're not a pirate.
 

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HOW DOES IT FEEL OBSIDIAN?
HOW DOES IT FEEL TO SUCK SO BAD? EVERY FUCKING TIME.

Ok, KoTOR II was your only accomplishment of any note. And I'm not even talking of the bullshit story.

Fallout: New Vegas.

So shut the fuck up.
 

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Darth Roxor said:
Depends. DS3 is like a bizarro version of DS1. Combat no longer autopilot, but exploration and party combat/management is p. much non-existent. It's a corridor slasher, basically speaking, so...
So... it's DS1 but without autopilot? Mmm...

Shannow said:
It has nothing to do with DS1.
OK, so maybe not.

It has a demo, so if you like your porn stolen you can try it even if you're not a pirate.
Thanks, I think that's my best course of action.

Matt7895 said:
KOTOR II
Mask of the Betrayer
Storm of Zehir
Alpha Protocol
Fallout: New Vegas.

So shut the fuck up.
Fixed :smug:
 

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Darth Roxor said:
Depends. DS3 is like a bizarro version of DS1. Combat no longer autopilot, but exploration and party combat/management is p. much non-existent. It's a corridor slasher, basically speaking, so...
So... it's DS1 but without autopilot? Mmm...

Shannow said:
It has nothing to do with DS1.
OK, so maybe not.

It has a demo, so if you like your porn stolen you can try it even if you're not a pirate.
Thanks, I think that's my best course of action.

Matt7895 said:
KOTOR II
Mask of the Betrayer
Storm of Zehir
Alpha Protocol
Fallout: New Vegas.

So shut the fuck up.
Fixed :smug:

I haven't played SoZ and AP was ok but nothing special. Agreed with the inclusion of KOTOR 2 and MotB, though. I even like the original NWN2.

But the fact of the matter is, Fallout: New Vegas is undeniably brilliant and anybody who ignores it when talking about Obsidian is an idiot.
 

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Ok, DS3 has a few flaws, but what it does have is good action combat, or at least as good as you're likely to find in an RPG.

Everyone who doesn't agree is either being a troll or cannot into player skill based combat.

This is Jade Empire done right.
 

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