Hoaxmetal
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Agreed, my recommended.
Agreed, my recommended.
Eh, i would strongly advise against playing games at work... but if you must, please, please, please play ASCii type games like Angband or whatever. At least a cursory glance from a boss or coworker wouldn't make fucking heads or tails of what they see. If they did, well, they'd be a bro. Kind of like I used to browse the web at work, but only with Lynx web browser. Games are great, but... you work so you can game, not the other way around. I work in IT and I would probably fire a gamer. Just because I trust folks, and I couldn't trust NOR respect someone who is so goddamn blatant as to play a game with VGA or better graphics. If someone was playing an ASCII game, I'd accept that at least they are making a good effort to not make me (their boss) look like an idiot.
But hey, tiny windowed Betrayal at Krondor would be acceptable, because the graphics are so bad, the I doubt anyone would be able to cypher what you are doing.
Since you work at IT and seems to be a boss or something, let me ask you this.
You have a worker that does 100% of his job. The thing is, since he is so good at his job, he finishes what he has to do before everyone and a couple hours before the end of the turn. Since he works under a dumb manager that forces workers to fulfill 8 hours per day even if they finish their jobs, he has to stay at work even if he doesn't have anything to do.
Know, considering that this worker uses these 2 extra hours to play an Ascii or a low profile game (meaning that nobody but an IT worker that has his screen cloned could see it), would you fire him?
An employee who has two hours to kill at work and "doesn't have anything to do" so they game or do anything else non-productive? How about telling your boss "I have nothing to do"? I'd find you something! Jesus! "I don't have anything to do!" I'd love to hear that from an employee! Great Caesars Ghost, you'd get your 2 extra hours of work and then some!!!Since you work at IT and seems to be a boss or something, let me ask you this.
You have a worker that does 100% of his job. The thing is, since he is so good at his job, he finishes what he has to do before everyone and a couple hours before the end of the turn. Since he works under a dumb manager that forces workers to fulfill 8 hours per day even if they finish their jobs, he has to stay at work even if he doesn't have anything to do.
Know, considering that this worker uses these 2 extra hours to play an Ascii or a low profile game (meaning that nobody but an IT worker that has his screen cloned could see it), would you fire him?
Yea its called Eve Online.Wasn't there some RPG written in Exel?
Since you work at IT and seems to be a boss or something, let me ask you this.
You have a worker that does 100% of his job. The thing is, since he is so good at his job, he finishes what he has to do before everyone and a couple hours before the end of the turn. Since he works under a dumb manager that forces workers to fulfill 8 hours per day even if they finish their jobs, he has to stay at work even if he doesn't have anything to do.
Know, considering that this worker uses these 2 extra hours to play an Ascii or a low profile game (meaning that nobody but an IT worker that has his screen cloned could see it), would you fire him?
Well, to summarize: I'm not exactly certain you know what a good employee is. Good employee works 8 hours a day and plays games with 2 additional hours? No. A good employee works 8 hours then goes home and games. A fantastic employee works 8 hours, then sees he has to be at work another 2 hours so he works those two hours.
An employee who has two hours to kill at work and "doesn't have anything to do" so they game or do anything else non-productive? How about telling your boss "I have nothing to do"? I'd find you something! Jesus! "I don't have anything to do!" I'd love to hear that from an employee! Great Caesars Ghost, you'd get your 2 extra hours of work and then some!!!
[Boss Hat]Look, we are all in this together. While I can understand your need to let off some steam after a long day, ultimately its our customers that suffer. Hackncrazy, you are a good employee, but I think if you applied yourself, you could be a great employee. While I'd like you to work on %big prestigious project% I can't, I'm afraid you'd let deadlines slip because you feel you only have to put in 8 hours a day. I'm going to give this project to %someone I know you hate%, someone who spends their time more in tune with our company culture. Also, if you are caught playing games again, we'll have to let you go. Thanks, I hope we can turn this around. [/Boss Hat]
While I don't agree 100% with your point, I accept it.
It just seems strange to me. You have the employee X which is very good and can do his job in 6 hours and then you have employee Y who is "normal" and do his job in 8.
If employee X finish his daily work in said 6 hours, why should he get more work if his quota is done, while employee Y didn't finish his?
Unless we're assuming that X is going to have a bigger salary than Y, than I agree with you.
And finally, for the boss hat part:
[good employee] But Mr. boss, why are our clients suffering if the work is getting 100% done? [/good employee]
But seriously, I can understand your point, the thing is that I just find it strange that a good worker has to work twice, sometimes 3 times more than he needs just to cover the ass of someone that plans his day to finish his job at exactly the 8th hour.
[good employee] But Mr. boss, why are our clients suffering if the work is getting 100% done? [/good employee]
But seriously, I can understand your point, the thing is that I just find it strange that a good worker has to work twice, sometimes 3 times more than he needs just to cover the ass of someone that plans his day to finish his job at exactly the 8th hour.
Tales of Maj'Eyal.
Just to throw my $.02 in the mix since I started this thread, I would never work for a company/manager that micro-manages my time and judges my output by hours worked and not goals completed. Few things about me: I'm the Lead Database Admin and run the data services team at a fairly large SAS company. I run my own department and work under the Director of ITS. For the size and scope of our database infrastructure we are actually under staffed if you go by common industry staffing guidelines. That said, I have basically automated most of my job and within my first 6 months (been at this current position for 3.5 yrs) solved most of the major issues they were having prior to hiring me. Very rarely do we have any fires, very rarely do I have to do boring daily tasks since I've automated that stuff (or built something so customers can self serve), and most of the stuff I work on is self directed projects.
I just had my review and received the highest possible rating and will get the maximum bonus/raise (again) this year. I also just got budget approval for a new hire so my team will be expanding in the 2nd quarter of next year. Not a single time did anything about hours or wasted time come up and the review was entirely based on my project output and things like cost savings and optimization (ie decommissioning old servers, writing scripts to cleanup directories from 1000's of VM's, performance optimizations, etc).
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[good employee] But Mr. boss, why are our clients suffering if the work is getting 100% done? [/good employee]
But seriously, I can understand your point, the thing is that I just find it strange that a good worker has to work twice, sometimes 3 times more than he needs just to cover the ass of someone that plans his day to finish his job at exactly the 8th hour.
Look, I understand. The world isn't run by the hardest working, those with the highest IQ's, those with the best physique, or run by any brilliant logic. Neither is the workplace. I agree with your premise and will be cheering for you, but I've been in IT a long time... a long time... and I'm just a bitter man now. I'll still be a random boss out there firing those who are caught, but the key word is caught.